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    Hi All,
    I am a Singaporean - ex-WNI and would need to go back to Indonesia to look after my parents. Would anybody guide me on how to obtain KITAS and eventually KITAP from Singapore?
    Thanks!

  • #2
    Originally posted by raganaindo View Post
    ...Would anybody guide me on how to obtain KITAS and eventually KITAP from Singapore?

    From Singapore you can get only an eVisa , which will become an Visit Stay Permit/Limited Stay Permit/eITAS/KITAS after entering Indonesia (check by trying to get it online)
    .

    I guess just now (because of the pandemic) Indonesia is not issuing the eVisa C318 (specific for ex-Indonesians) . I guess the Social Visit eVisa is also not available . If so and you cannot wait , #[your options are :
    - come with a Tourist eVisa through Bali , and when in Indonesia you apply for the eVisa C318 (without the need to leave Indonesia) , or
    - ... (I will not put it here because it is not 100% legal) .]

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    Updating to what I know now (08 Mar 2022) : Disregard these options above in #[...] . For a long stay in Indonesia your best option is to get the 1 year Limited Stay Visa C318 / VITAS C318 , then the ex-Indonesian KITAS (when the Visa C318 starts to be issued again)


    https://visa-online.imigrasi.go.id/ (apply visa online)

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    • #3
      From Indonesian Immigration , 2020
      Requirements for Repatriation Limited Stay Visa (index C318) The main requirements, as follows:
      a. guarantee letter from the sponsor;
      b. copy of the foreigner's passport which is valid for at least 18 (eighteen) months;
      c. proof of having been an Indonesian citizen which can be proven by documents issued by the government of the Republic of Indonesia such as birth certificates, marriage certificates, identity cards, diplomas, passports, or land ownership certificates;
      d. proof of having the living cost of the foreigner and/or his/her family while in the Indonesian Territory of at least US$1500 (one thousand five hundred American dollars); and
      f. Requirements related to the coronavirus pandemic (being vaccinated , presenting recent negative test result , ...) .

      From https://kemlu.go.id/bern/en/pages/e-visa/4099/etc-menu (Indonesian Embassy in Switzerland)
      Title : FLY TO INDONESIA WITH E-VISA

      [...You still have to comply with the health protocols and submit relevant documents, which include:
      1. A valid medical certificate (in English) from the local health authority and the COVID-19 negative PCR test result. Both documents must be issued within seven days prior to your arrival date in Indonesia;
      2. A statement of willingness to go into quarantine (mandatory or voluntary), pay for the expenses that occur during quarantine, comply with the prevailing laws and regulations, and willingness to be monitored by the local health authorities;
      3. A health insurance that covers the medical expenses of COVID-19 treatment, or a statement of willingness to pay for all the expenses that occur during the treatment.
      Poster's Note : The 1. above , I guess , is only a certificate stating the Visa requester had the test and the result was negative (and may not need to include the real test result) , which is what the Regulation no.26 year 2020 (see below) states .
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      E-visa guide (pdf file) - go to the website to get it
      Layanan informasi/pengaduan:Whatsapps : +62 821-1376-7654

      .............................................]


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      REGULATION OF MINISTER OF LAW AND HUMAN RIGHTS No.26 OF 2020 (29 Sept 2020)
      Article 6
      ..........
      (3) To obtain a Visa Approval from the Director-General of Immigration... a Sponsor must make an online application in accordance with the provisions of laws and regulations by completing:
      a. a health certificate in English declaring a free from Covid-19 by a competent authority at their home country;
      b. a declaration letter in English consented to do a mandatory self-isolation or undertake a medical treatment at an accommodation or a designated health facility by the Indonesian government at the traveler’s own expense when a PCR check upon arrival by the health authority at ports of entry results in a positive with the Covid-19 or with symptoms in accordance with the health protocol and provisions of law and regulations.
      c. a consent letter to be monitored during the quarantine or self-isolation in accordance with the health protocol and provisions of law and regulations.

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      • #4
        From https://visa-online.imigrasi.go.id/f...atrix_visa.pdf
        eVisa C318
        .......
        - proof of having living expenses for himself/herself and/or his/her family while in Indonesia, current account, savings book, or time deposit for the last 3 (three) months belonging to the relevant foreigner or the sponsor with an amount of at least USD 2000 (two thousand US dollars) or equivalent;
        ........
        - passport photo, with specifications:1. colored;2. file format *.JPEG;3. size 100kb - 200kb;4. solid white background;5. photos taken in the last 6 months;6. not the result of editing or image processing;
        .......


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        https://www.livinginindonesiaforum.o...rules-for-2022 (Visa rules for 2022)

        https://www.livinginindonesiaforum.o...ing-march-2022 (about the sponsor)

        https://soekarnohatta.imigrasi.go.id/download/ (Download forms , letters' example , and others)

        https://izintinggal-online.imigrasi....oranITAS.xhtml (people who entered Indonesia with Visa for ITAS)

        https://izintinggal-online.imigrasi....oranITAS.xhtml (KITAS/KITAP online)

        https://sipp.menpan.go.id/pelayanan-...-secara-online (Info about KITAS online)

        http://www.expat.or.id/info/docs.html (Indonesian Visas/KITAS/KITAP/documents)

        https://blog.qelola.com/2020/03/24/l...-kitas-online/ (about KITAS online)
        Attached Files

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        • #5
          Thanks Marcus for your detail explanation.
          Further questions regarding my inquiries:
          1. Is C318 the only type of visa that I could apply and convert to KITAS? Can we start from visa B212 (correct me if I'm wrong. This visa can be applied to visit our parents with medical condition)?
          2. Can you pm me for the not quite legal pathway to obtain the KITAS?
          Thanks a lot!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by raganaindo View Post
            1. Is C318 the only type of visa that I could apply and convert to KITAS?

            1a. Can we start from visa B212 (correct me if I'm wrong. This visa can be applied to visit our parents with medical condition)?

            2. Can you pm me for the not quite legal pathway to obtain the KITAS?

            1. No , all types of long term Limited Stay Visa (C : 311 , 312 , ... until 320) will turn into KITAS . But the one specific for ex-Indonesians (which gives you more privilege) is the C318 (only Visa C318 will become "ex-Indonesian KITAS") .

            1a. You can start with any Visa (but at the end you better get the C318) . The problem is that most are not available now due to the virus pandemic .
            Note : there is no B212 Visa (there are B211 , D212 ...) . You can visit your parents with any Visa (there is no specific Visa to visit sick parents) .

            2. I guess many foreign tourists are coming now to Indonesia (through Jakarta) with a "Business" Visa (because Tourist Visa is now being issued only to come to Bali) . My interpretation of the Indonesian Immigration Law (see below) is that this situation is not legal .


            UU no.6 Year 2011 (Indonesian Immigration Law) - not an official translation
            Article 122
            Shall be punished with imprisonment of up to five (5) years and fined at most Rp500.000.000 (five hundred million rupiah):

            a. any foreigner who deliberately misuse or engage in activities not in accordance with the intent and purpose of the Visa/KITAS/e-ITAS/KITAP given to him/her ;

            b. any person who ordered or provide opportunity for the foreigner to misuse or engage in activities inconsistent with intent or purpose of the Visa/KITAS/e-ITAS/KITAP given to him/her.


            Article 123
            Shall be punished with imprisonment of five (5) years and fined at most Rp500.000.000, 00 (five hundred million rupiah):

            a. any person who knowingly gives a letter or false or falsified data or untrue statement with intent of obtaining Visas or KITAS/e-ITAS/KITAP for himself/herself or others;

            b. any foreigner who deliberately use the Visa or KITAS/e-ITAS/KITAP as referred to in letter a to enter and / or stay in Indonesia.

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            • #7
              From https://www.thejakartapost.com/busin...two-years.html
              Title : Singapore’s Jetstar resumes flights to Bali after two years

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              • #8
                Thanks a bunch Marcus! Since Bali accepts visa on arrival for Singaporean starting from 7th Mar 2022, would it be possible to enter Bali using VoA and apply C318 onshore?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by raganaindo View Post
                  ...would it be possible to enter Bali using VoA and apply C318 onshore?

                  I got a little confusing Immigration's article related to that , it is in Indonesian language so I ask you to check by yourself .

                  From what the officer states in the article "...Visit Stay Permit holders apply for a Visit Visa, ITAS/Limited Stay Permit holders apply for a VITAS/Limited Stay Visa..." I understood that , unfortunately , you cannot get the Visa C318 without the need to leave Indonesia , because a VOA is a Visit Stay Visa which turns to a Visit Stay Permit when you enter Indonesia , and a C318 Visa is a VITAS/Limited Stay Visa .

                  In other words , you can apply for the C318 onshore (online) , but you will have to leave Indonesia and come back again [but this is my guess , you better ask Immigration about that , preferably at : Ditjen Imigrasi | Facebook , or DitJen Imigrasi (@ditjen_imigrasi) / Twitter , or Direktorat Jenderal Imigrasi (@ditjen_imigrasi) • Instagram photos and videos] .


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                  From https://www.imigrasi.go.id/en/2022/0...batas-onshore/

                  Catat! Pemegang Izin Tinggal Kunjungan Tidak Bisa Ajukan Visa Tinggal Terbatas Onshore

                  By admin-dev News
                  Penulis: Elyan Nadian Zahara
                  Editor: M. Fijar Sulistyo
                  14 Februari 2022
                  JAKARTA – Kebijakan pengajuan Visa RI secara onshore yang diberlakukan sejak tahun 2020 menjadi angin segar di masa pandemi. Namun pada praktiknya kebijakan ini rentan disalahpahami sebagai jalan pintas untuk memperoleh izin tinggal terbatas di Indonesia.

                  Subkoordinator Humas Ditjen Imigrasi, Achmad Nur Saleh mengatakan bahwa melalui Peraturan Nomor 26 tahun 2020 Menteri Hukum dan HAM RI mengatur agar orang asing pemegang izin tinggal yang berada di Indonesia dapat diberikan izin tinggal baru setelah memperoleh persetujuan visa.

                  “Visa inilah yang disebut dengan visa onshore, yaitu Visa yang diajukan oleh Orang Asing pemegang izin tinggal yang berada di Indonesia yang berfungsi untuk memperpanjang izin tinggal, ” ujarnya.

                  Latar belakang lahirnya kebijakan ini adalah banyaknya orang asing yang tidak bisa lagi memperpanjang izin tinggalnya di Indonesia, sementara kebijakan penutupan perbatasan membuat mereka tidak bisa segera Kembali ke negara asalnya.

                  Achmad menambahkan, WNA pemegang Visa Kunjungan secara otomatis memiliki Izin Tinggal Kunjungan (ITK) tanpa perlu melakukan pengurusan lebih lanjut di kantor imigrasi. Lain halnya dengan pemegang Visa Tinggal Terbatas (VITAS) yang harus melakukan pengurusan Izin Tinggal Terbatas (ITAS) di kantor imigrasi, dalam 30 hari pertama kedatangannya di Indonesia..

                  Masing-masing izin tinggal ini memiliki batas maksimal perpanjangan. Jika sudah maksimal, Achmad menegaskan WNA harus mengajukan ulang visa bila masih ingin berkegiatan di Indonesia. Akan tetapi, ada beberapa hal yang patut diperhatikan bagi orang asing yang akan mengajukan visa onshore.

                  “Syarat utamanya adalah jenis visa yang diajukan sama dengan jenis izin tinggal yang dimiliki orang asing itu sebelumnya. Pemegang ITK mengajukan Visa Kunjungan, pemegang ITAS mengajukan VITAS. Jadi kalau sebelumnya pemegang ITK ya tidak bisa mengajukan VITAS onshore. Itu ada mekanismenya sendiri, yaitu Alih Status dari Izin Tinggal Kunjungan menjadi Izin Tinggal Terbatas. Pengurusannya di kantor imigrasi.” jelasnya.

                  Namun demikian, Achmad menyebutkan pengecualian bagi pemegang Izin Tinggal Terbatas atau Izin Tinggal Tetap (ITAP) yang akan mengajukan visa kunjungan onshore.

                  “Ada pengecualian. Khusus untuk pemegang ITAS/ITAP, bisa mengajukan visa kunjungan onshore. Karena itu perlu diperhatikan betul, jangan sampai salah mengajukan karena biaya yang sudah disetorkan tidak bisa dikembalikan. Itu ada aturannya di PermenkumHAM Nomor 5 tahun 2019,” tutup Achmad.


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                  Google's translation of the above :

                  Note! Visitor Stay Permit Holders Cannot Apply Onshore Limited Stay Visa

                  Author: Elyan Nadian Zahara Editor: M. Fijar Sulistyo February 14, 2022
                  JAKARTA – The onshore RI Visa application policy that has been in place since 2020 has become a breath of fresh air during the pandemic. However, in practice this policy is prone to be misunderstood as a shortcut to obtaining a limited stay permit in Indonesia.

                  The Sub-Coordinator of Public Relations of the Directorate General of Immigration, Achmad Nur Saleh said that through Regulation No. 26 of 2020 the Minister of Law and Human Rights of the Republic of Indonesia stipulates that foreigners holding residence permits in Indonesia can be given new residence permits after obtaining visa approval.

                  "This visa is called an onshore visa, namely a visa submitted by a foreigner holding a residence permit in Indonesia which serves to extend a residence permit," he said.

                  The background of the birth of this policy is that many foreigners can no longer extend their residence permits in Indonesia, while the border closure policy makes them unable to immediately return to their home countries.

                  Achmad added that foreigners holding Visit Visas automatically have a Visit Stay Permit (ITK) without the need to do further processing at the immigration office. It is different for holders of a Limited Stay Visa (VITAS) who must arrange for a Limited Stay Permit (ITAS) at the immigration office, within the first 30 days of their arrival in Indonesia.

                  Each of these residence permits has a maximum extension limit. If it is maximal, Achmad emphasized that foreigners must re-apply a visa if they still want to carry out activities in Indonesia. However, there are some things that should be noted for foreigners who will apply for an onshore visa.

                  “The main condition is that the type of visa applied for is the same as the type of residence permit the foreigner previously had. Visit Stay Permit holders apply for a Visit Visa, ITAS holders apply for a VITAS/Limited Stay Visa . So if previously the Visit Stay Permit holder could not apply for an onshore VITAS. It has its own mechanism, namely the Status Transfer from a Visit Stay Permit to a Limited Stay Permit. The management is at the immigration office.” he explained.

                  However, Achmad mentioned exceptions for holders of a Limited Stay Permit or Permanent Stay Permit (ITAP) who would apply for an onshore visit visa.

                  "There are exceptions. Especially for ITAS/ITAP holders, they can apply for an onshore visit visa. Therefore, it is necessary to pay close attention, not to apply wrongly because the fees that have been deposited cannot be returned. There is a regulation in PermenkumHAM Number 5 of 2019," concluded Achmad.

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                  • #10
                    You are right. It is indeed very confusing but I managed to find the relevant info on imigrasi.go.id.
                    It is mentioned that VOA cannot be used as the base to apply ITAS. It has to be another form of visit visa such as B211A.

                    As said, it would be much simpler if one could start with C318 offshore and convert it to ITAS when he reaches Indonesia.

                    Thanks!

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                    https://www.imigrasi.go.id/en/2022/0...penjelasannya/

                    Senin, 7 Maret 2022 Pukul 17.30 WIB
                    Reporter: Ajeng Rahma Safitri
                    Editor: Muhammad Fijar Sulistyo

                    Dibukanya fasilitas Visa On Arrival (VOA) bagi turis asing dari 23 negara yang hendak berkunjung ke Bali disambut dengan antusias oleh masyarakat. Di sisi lain, dibukanya VOA Khusus Wisata di Bali juga mengundang pertanyaan, antara lain tentang masa tinggal dan perpanjangannya. Lantas, sejauh mana perbedaannya dengan turis asing dari negara lain yang menggunaka Visa Kunjungan Wisata?

                    Subkoordinator Humas Ditjen Imigrasi, Achmad Nur Saleh mengungkapkan, turis asing yang menggunakan VOA mendapatkan waktu tinggal yang lebih singkat dibandingkan pemegang Visa Kunjungan Wisata B211A.

                    “Izin Tinggal Kunjungan (ITK) bagi turis asing pemegang VOA berlaku selama 30 hari dan bisa diperpanjang hanya 1 (satu)kali, dengan jangka waktu tinggal selama 30 hari. Sedangkan, Visa Kunjungan Wisata dapat diberikan untuk jangka waktu tinggal 60 hari. Visa Kunjungan dapat diperpanjang ke ITK hingga sebanyak 4 (empat) kali perpanjangan. Atau dengan kata lain, bisa tinggal di Indonesia paling lama 180 hari”, kata Achmad.

                    Di samping itu, lanjutnya, Izin Tinggal Kunjungan yang berasal dari VOA tidak dapat dialihstatuskan. Berbeda dengan ITK dari Visa Kunjungan yang bisa dialihstatuskan menjadi Izin Tinggal Terbatas (ITAS).

                    Read also : Visa On Arrival (VOA) Khusus Wisata Resmi Dibuka untuk WNA dari 23 Negara

                    “VOA dapat diajukan tanpa memerlukan penjamin/sponsor. Itu salah satu alasan ITK yang berasal dari VOA tidak bisa alih status menjadi ITAS”, tuturnya.

                    Visa On Arrival bagi turis asing dari 23 negara yang ditetapkan Pemerintah RI dapat diajukan oleh subjek Orang Asing dengan melampirkan paspor yang masih berlaku selama sedikitnya 6 (enam) bulan, tiket kembali atau tiket meneruskan ke negara lain, dan dokumen lainnya yang dipersyaratkan oleh Satgas Covid-19. Dokumen-dokumen tersebut contohnya hasil tes RT-PCR, sertifikat vaksinasi Covid-19 dan bukti pembayaran akomodasi/hotel.

                    “Hari ini, Senin 7 Maret 2022, Menkomarves, Pak Luhut, mengonfirmasi melalui konferensi pers bahwa Orang Asing yang ingin bebas karantina di Bali harus menunjukkan bukti pembayaran akomodasi/hotel minimal untuk 4 (empat) hari”, ujarnya.

                    Sementara itu, Orang Asing yang mengajukan Visa Kunjungan Wisata B211A harus mempersiapkan dokumen yang lebih lengkap. Persyaratannya antara lain paspor, surat permohonan dan jaminan, bukti kepemilikan dana (tabungan) senilai 2.000 US Dollars, tiket kembali atau tiket meneruskan ke negara lain, pas foto berwarna ukuran 4?6, hingga asuransi kesehatan/asuransi perjalanan dengan nilai pertanggungan biaya kesehatan sebanyak 25.000 US Dollars.

                    “Mereka juga harus menyertakan surat pernyataan bersedia mematuhi protokol kesehatan di Indonesia, dan bukti pembayaran jasa perjalanan/hotel. Penjaminnya harus merupakan biro perjalanan atau hotel yang berada di Indonesia. Permohonan visa dilakukan melalui website visa-online.imigrasi.go.id”, tutup Achmad.

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                    • #11
                      [QUOTE=raganaindo;n862272]...It has to be another form of visit visa such as B211A.


                      This refers to a different subject , a very old rule that is about you geting a convertion of a Visit Stay Permit into a Limited Stay Permit/ITAS/KITAS . A process named "convertion of an ITK/Izin Tinggal Kunjungan into an ITAS/Izin Tinggal Terbatas" . For example :
                      - you get a social Visit Visa sponsored by your father , then when in Indonesia you can convert its related Visit Stay Permit into an ex-Indonesian KITAS sponsored by your father (same sponsor) , or
                      - one gets a social Visit Visa sponsored by the Indonesian spouse , and when in Indonesia converts the related Visit Stay Permit into a KITAS sponsored by the Indonesian spouse (same sponsor) .

                      The subject we were talking was that , due to the pandemic , one could apply for a Visa when in Indonesia , get an eVisa and a Stay Permit , all without leaving Indonesia .
                      For example , after continuous 6 years with a Retirement KITAS I had to leave Indonesia , get a new Retirement Visa outside Indonesia , and come back to get the Retirement KITAS again , but due to the pandemic , before the end of the 6th Retirement KITAS I got a Retirement eVisa , and then a new Retirement KITAS , all done without I leaving Indonesia .

                       

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