Japanese engineers visa for working in Indonesia

[Lyn Chan]

What kind of visa for two engineers from Japan company coming to working in Indonesia.

Especially they will coming twice, example :
1. First of Feb 2022 to end of Feb 2022
2. First of may 2022 to end of May 2022
? 

[marcus]

The only option I know for this situation is the Work Visa (although other option may be possible , for example if it is work related to start a new company in Indonesia) .

A Work Visa requires the foreign worker to get a sponsorship of the Indonesian based company where the foreigner will work . It is this Indonesian based company that have to request the "work permit" + the Indonesian Work Visa for the foreigners . Usually companies hires visa agents to do this work for them .

[didah RGO]

hi..
I'm Didah, visa agent..

There are two types of Visa/Kitas that can be used by the foreigner.
1. Create working Kitas, sponsored by Indonesian companies. the price can be expensive because you have to pay a monthly DPKK of $100 ( $1200 for 1 year) and a working Kitas of $ 1500 for 1 year of residence permit. if there is no corporate sponsor then you have to pay $800
2. Create investor Kitas. This can use sponsorship from an Indonesian company or create your own company, the cost is $800 and the Kitas investor is $1400 for a 2 year residence permit.

The holder of the Kitas residence permit is free to enter and leave Indonesia as long as the Kitas is still valid.


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Didah.

[marcus]

(a) ...and a working Kitas of $ 1500 for 1 year of residence permit.

(b) if there is no corporate sponsor then you have to pay $800

(c) investor Kitas. This can use sponsorship from an Indonesian company...

(a) A Work Visa/KITAS don't need to be for 1 year . It can be as short as 1 month .

(b) It is only legal if sponsored by the company that hires the foreigner .

(c) Investor Visa/KITAS is only for foreigners who intend to invest at least Rp1 billion in Indonesia .


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PerMen no.51 Year 2016
Article 23
(1) The limited stay visa as referred to in Article 22 is granted for a maximum period of:
a. 2 (two) years;
b. 1 (one) year;
c. 6 (six) months;
d. 90 (ninety) days; or
e. 30 (thirty) days.

Poster's Note : There are many "types" of Limited Stay Visa , including Work Visa .


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UU no.6 Year 2011 (Indonesian Immigration Law) - not an official translation
Article 122
Shall be punished with imprisonment of up to five (5) years and fined at most Rp500.000.000 (five hundred million rupiah):
a. any foreigner who deliberately misuse or engage in activities not in accordance with the intent and purpose of the Visa/KITAS/e-ITAS/KITAP given to him/her ;
b. any person who ordered or provide opportunity for the foreigner to misuse or engage in activities inconsistent with intent or purpose of the Visa/KITAS/e-ITAS/KITAP given to him/her.

Article 123
Shall be punished with imprisonment of five (5) years and fined at most Rp500.000.000, 00 (five hundred million rupiah):
a. any person who knowingly gives a wrong letter or false or falsified data or untrue statement with intent of obtaining Visas or KITAS/e-ITAS/KITAP for himself/herself or others;
b. any foreigner who deliberately use the Visa or KITAS/e-ITAS/KITAP as referred to in letter a to enter and / or stay in Indonesia.

[Lyn Chan]

The only option I know for this situation is the Work Visa (although other option may be possible , for example if it is work related to start a new company in Indonesia) .

A Work Visa requires the foreign worker to get a sponsorship of the Indonesian based company where the foreigner will work . It is this Indonesian based company that have to request the "work permit" + the Indonesian Work Visa for the foreigners . Usually companies hires visa agents to do this work for them .

Thank you for the reply
So can only apply work visa for one month then when come back again for work apply again the work visa ?

Is it need to apply kitas for engineers working on site that only come twice as I mention as per above ?

[marcus]

(1) So can only apply work visa for one month then when come back again for work apply again the work visa ?

(2) Is it need to apply kitas for engineers working on site that only come twice as I mention as per above ?

(1) Yes , it can be 2 Visas of 30 days or a Visa of 6 months .

(2) Any Indonesian Visa turns to a Stay Permit when the foreigner enters Indonesia . A KITAS/e-ITAS is a "type" of Stay Permit . I guess it is not relevant to know if a KITAS/e-ITAS will be issued . The important thing to know is if a future visit to the Immigration Office is necessary . I am not sure , but I guess that the 30 days Work Visa does not require a future visit to a Immigration Office (for photo/fingerprint) , but the 6 months Visa may require that . Anyway , usually the stamp that the foreigner gets (when passing through Immigration) will inform if a future visit to Immigration Office is necessary . You may also ask that in any Immigration Office or online (Ditjen Imigrasi | Facebook , DitJen Imigrasi (@ditjen_imigrasi) / Twitter , Direktorat Jenderal Imigrasi (@ditjen_imigrasi) • Instagram photos and videos) .

Poster's Note : A Work Visa or any other Limited Stay Visa will required a paid ITAS/Limited Stay Permit . And maybe except the 30 days Visa , a paid Re-entry Permit is also applied .

[didah RGO]

(a) A Work Visa don't need to be for 1 year . It can be as short as 1 month .

(b) It is only legal if sponsored by the company that hires the foreigner .

(c) Investor Visa/KITAS is only for foreigners who intend to invest at least Rp1 billion in Indonesia .


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PerMen no.51 Year 2016
Article 23
(1) The limited stay visa as referred to in Article 22 is granted for a maximum period of:
a. 2 (two) years;
b. 1 (one) year;
c. 6 (six) months;
d. 90 (ninety) days; or
e. 30 (thirty) days.

Poster's Note : There are many "types" of Limited Stay Visa , including Work Visa .


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UU no.6 Year 2011 (Indonesian Immigration Law) - not an official translation
Article 122
Shall be punished with imprisonment of up to five (5) years and fined at most Rp500.000.000 (five hundred million rupiah):
a. any foreigner who deliberately misuse or engage in activities not in accordance with the intent and purpose of the Visa/KITAS/e-ITAS/KITAP given to him/her ;
b. any person who ordered or provide opportunity for the foreigner to misuse or engage in activities inconsistent with intent or purpose of the Visa/KITAS/e-ITAS/KITAP given to him/her.

Article 123
Shall be punished with imprisonment of five (5) years and fined at most Rp500.000.000, 00 (five hundred million rupiah):
a. any person who knowingly gives a wrong letter or false or falsified data or untrue statement with intent of obtaining Visas or KITAS/e-ITAS/KITAP for himself/herself or others;
b. any foreigner who deliberately use the Visa or KITAS/e-ITAS/KITAP as referred to in letter a to enter and / or stay in Indonesia.

(1) work visa, minimum 6 months and 1 year sir.. nothing is 1 month that I know of. the one month and two month only a visit visa or a business visa.
(2) yes you are right. the company can't be a sponsor if he can't work there..
(3) and for investors a minimum of 1 billion but if it's below that can be helped sir..

[marcus]

(1) ... nothing is 1 month that I know of...

(3) ...but if it's below that can be helped sir..

(1) So do you think that the PerMen no.51 Year 2016 , Article 23 that I posted above is fake or was cancelled ? Does it make sense to you that a foreign singer who comes to Indonesia to do just one show is required to get a 6 months Work Visa ?

(3) Can you explain us how ?

[Lyn Chan]

So if we apply work visa then it must have Kitas too is it ?

If we only have NOTIF but Kitas still on process. Can we going to the site working with NOTIF only ?



Thank you

[marcus]

(I) So if we apply work visa then it must have Kitas too is it ?

(II) If we only have NOTIF but Kitas still on process. Can we going to the site working with NOTIF only ?

(I) For the 6 month Work Visa , probably there will be a KITAS/e-ITAS issued after taking photo/fingerprints in a visit to a local Immigration Office .
I am not aware of how it is for the 1 month Work Visa , but I guess it may be an ITAS-on-arrival , meaning that the foreigner would not need to make a future visit to the local Immigration Office and could work soon after entering Indonesia , or as soon after paying the "Izin Tinggal Terbatas Saat Kedatangan / ITAS-on-arrival" (Rp750.000 according PP no.28 Year 2019) .

(II) Theoretically no .

[didah RGO]

(1) So do you think that the PerMen no.51 Year 2016 , Article 23 that I posted above is fake or was cancelled ? Does it make sense to you that a foreign singer who comes to Indonesia to do just one show is required to get a 6 months Work Visa ?

(3) Can you explain us how ?

(1) Yes, for PerMen No. 51 of 2016, Article 23 is no longer valid, sir..
(3) if only for a singer you can make an artist visa sir but the period of 3 months can't be 1 month..

[didah RGO]

So if we apply work visa then it must have Kitas too is it ?

If we only have NOTIF but Kitas still on process. Can we going to the site working with NOTIF only ?



Thank you

Can not. because you have to use an e-visa to enter Indonesia. Immediately pay the Billing Kitas for your work so that the e-visa comes out quickly.. After exiting your work e-visa, you can only enter Indonesia. Once in Indonesia you can take a photo at immigration to issue your work KITAS permit.

[marcus]

(1) Yes, for PerMen No. 51 of 2016, Article 23 is no longer valid, sir..
(3) if only for a singer you can make an artist visa sir but the period of 3 months can't be 1 month..

(1) If you are so sure about that, why you don't tell us which new Peraturan/Regulation cancelled Article 23 Of PerMen no.51 Year 2016 ?

(3) "Artist Visa" of 3 months ? Could you show us in which Government document you saw that ?

[marcus]

(x)... Immediately pay the Billing Kitas for your work so that the e-visa comes out quickly..

(y) After exiting your work e-visa, you can only enter Indonesia...

Sorry but you are very confusing .

(x) In Indonesia (except for Visit Visas) the Government charges for : the Visa or e-Visa or Limited Stay Visa-on-arrival (before entering Indonesia) + the Stay Permit (after entering Indonesia or on arrival) , the first specified in US currency and the second in Indonesian currency . KITAS is a type of Stay Permit (literally , a Limited Stay Permit Card) . So when the time to pay the KITAS comes , the foreigner already got the Visa/e-Visa .

(y) I guess you meant : "you use the e-Visa to enter Indonesia" .

[didah RGO]

Sorry but you are very confusing .

(x) In Indonesia (except for Visit Visas) the Government charges for : the Visa or e-Visa or Limited Stay Visa-on-arrival (before entering Indonesia) + the Stay Permit (after entering Indonesia or on arrival) , the first specified in US currency and the second in Indonesian currency . KITAS is a type of Stay Permit (literally , a Limited Stay Permit Card) . So when the time to pay the KITAS comes , the foreigner already got the Visa/e-Visa .

(y) I guess you meant : "you use the e-Visa to enter Indonesia" .

sorry if it confused you..

ok i explain again.
if you want to make a Kitas, whether it's an investor's Kitas, a work kitas, an Elderly's Kitas or a follower's Kitas. for the first time you will get an E-visa (not a tourist or business visa but an e-visa according to what you are applying for) because you will not get a Kitas directly sir.. Kitas will be received upon arrival in Indonesia, after you have done a PHOTO session at local immigration..