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    Hi all. I'm a KITAP holder, now sponsored by my brother-in-law as my wife has passed away. My son, who lives in California, would like to visit Indonesia (including to visit his mother's grave). PP 48/2021, Article 102 (4) c, states "legitimate child of marriage between WNI and WNA" as one category eligible for visa penyatuan keluarga. It doesn't explicitly state that both partners must still be living.

    Does anyone have experience with a similar situation? It seems that my brother-in-law as my KITAP sponsor should also be the sponsor who registers with Imigrasi to request the visa.

  • #2
    Originally posted by tedbintaro View Post
    (1) ...It doesn't explicitly state that both partners must still be living...

    (2) It seems that my brother-in-law as my KITAP sponsor should also be the sponsor ... the visa.

    (1) I think it does not matter if the mother is not alive . But you should be aware that , probably your son cannot be older than 18 . The Regulation does not specify the age limit , but I remember a case long time ago that Immigration stated that by definition "anak" cannot be older than 18 .

    (2) I think that in this case the sponsor must be the father or the mother (even being a foreigner , you can sponsor your son) .

    Note : Be aware also about the additional requirements/limitations related to the Covid-19 (just now , 10 days quarantine , must be vaccinated , cannot come from South Africa, Botswana, Namibia, Zimbabwe, Lesotho, Mozambique, Eswatini, Malawi, Angola, Zambia and Hong Kong , ...)

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    • #3
      Marcus, thanks for this input.

      PP 48/2021 Pasal 201 (4) c
      Orang Asing yang dapat menyatukan diri dengan keluarga sebagaimana dimaksud pada ayat (3) huruf d, yaitu:
      a. Orang Asing yang menggabungkan diri dengan suami atau istri yang warga negara Indonesia;
      b. Orang Asing yang menggabungkan diri dengan suami atau istri pemegang Izin Tinggal terbatas atau Izin Tinggal Tetap;
      c. anak hasil perkawinan yang sah antara Orang Asing dengan warga negara Indonesia;
      d. anak yang belum berusia 18 (delapan belas) tahun dan belum kawin dari Orang Asing yang kawin secara sah dengan warga negara Indonesia; dan
      e. anak yang belum berusia 18 (delapan belas) tahun dan belum kawin yang menggabungkan diri dengan orang tuanya pemegang lzin Tinggal terbatas atau Izin Tinggal Tetap.

      And Pasal 1 doesn't give a definition of "anak". So there could be room to argue that point c could be a child of any age, since points d and e do explicitly state the age limit.

      Does anyone have experience / know of a case where a KITAP holder (rather than a citizen) has sponsored a child's visa?

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      • #4
        However, I also note this in the same regulation:

        Pasal 103 (2)


        Selain melampirkan persyaratan sebagaimana dimaksud pada ayat (1), bagi:
        ...

        d. anak hasil perkawinan yang sah antara Orang Asing dengan warga negara Indonesia sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 102 ayat (41huruf c, juga harus melampirkan:
        1. fotokopi akta kelahiran;
        2. fotokopi akta perkawinan atau buku nikah orang tua;
        3. fotokopi kartu tanda penduduk ayah atau ibu warga negara Indonesia yang masih berlaku; dan
        4. fotokopi kartu keluarga ayah atau ibu warga negara Indonesia.

        and since the deceased mother's KTP has been cancelled, this clearly implies that the WNI parent must still be alive and be the sponsor.

        Sorry for taking up anybody's time with this.



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        • #5
          Originally posted by tedbintaro View Post
          ...And Pasal 1 doesn't give a definition of "anak". So there could be room to argue ..., since points d and e do explicitly state the age limit...

          Yes , but this argument was used in that old case I mentioned , without success . You can try your luck , as officers sometimes surprise us .

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tedbintaro View Post
            However, I also note this in the same regulation:
            Pasal 103 (2)
            Selain melampirkan persyaratan sebagaimana dimaksud pada ayat (1), bagi:
            ...
            3. fotokopi kartu tanda penduduk ayah atau ibu warga negara Indonesia yang masih berlaku; dan
            4. fotokopi kartu keluarga ayah atau ibu warga negara Indonesia.

            and since the deceased mother's KTP has been cancelled, this clearly implies that the WNI parent must still be alive and be the sponsor.

            Sorry, I didn't read that part of the Regulation before . From it , I don't agree with your "clearly implies..." interpretation .

            To me , those points (3 & 4) mean that the sponsor must be the Indonesian spouse (as those 2 requirements are related to the sponsor) , because the option for the foreign spouse's documents is not there .


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            No matter how we foreigners interpret the rule , I suggest you to try to get it .

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