Kitap renewel with a new british pp

[Limey]

I have just finished the Nightmare with obtaining a new BRIT PP. My old PP still ran until Nov 23rd 2021. I have a Permanent KITAP that had to be extended  on the 25th of May. ( the Report KITAP ) This did nt happen because the old PP was nt valid long enough.  Fair dues.  My new BRIT PP is 10yrs but no remaining time on the old PP was added to my new PP and is valid until 10 05 2031.  I was counting on it being added .
Now it gets interesting, the new PP was issued 10 05 2021.... look at the date of the KITAP 25 05 2021, when this is extended it will be valid until  25 05 2026 when it must be re_extended. This means my new PP will be short 15 days to renew my KITAP again.
I dont know but, can a PP still valid for close to 5yrs be renewed?? I doubt it.
To get some form of sanity into the problem, can I ask for the REPORT DATE to be back set one year, ( report earlier ) the only loser is ME, I loose 1 yr off of a KITAP.

[Limey]

By the way, I hope all is well with you all, and you are all up to date with the jabs and staying safe at all times.

[marcus]

(1)... My old PP still ran until Nov 23rd 2021. I have a Permanent KITAP that had to be extended on the 25th of May ( the Report KITAP ) ...

(2) I dont know but, can a PP still valid for close to 5yrs be renewed?? I doubt it.

(3) ... can I ask for the REPORT DATE to be back set one year, ( report earlier ) ...

(1) In my view you could go through the KITAP 5 years Report with the old (still valid) passport because to get a KITAP you don't need a passport valid for 5 years , but just a valid passport (see the Regulation below) . Although the rule is for a new KITAP and its extension , I understand that it should also be applied for the 5 years Report (as it is not specified in that PP) .

(2) I guess you can . Or you tell your Embassy that you lost it , so they have to give you a new one (I don't know it is illegal to do it in UK , but my Government's officer was the one who told me to lie like that to get a new passport) .

(3) I guess Indonesian Immigration will not allow .


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PP no.31 , Year 2013
Article 153
(1) ...
(2) Application of a KITAP... shall be submitted... and attaching the following :
a. a legal passport and still valid;
b. photocopy of a e-ITAS/KITAS that is still valid
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Article 157
(1) Provisions concerning the requirements and procedures of an application and term of issuance of a KITAP as referred to in Article 153 and Article 154, shall also apply for a KITAP extension .

[marcus]

By the way, I hope all is well with you all, and you are all up to date with the jabs and staying safe at all times.

Thanks , sama sama Limey . By the way I got vaccinated in Indonesia before my older brother did the same in my country (thanks Indonesia) .

[Limey]

Hello again, I have given this a lot of thought, running everything in my head a few dozen times, as for yr answer to nr (I) it never came to mind for me to question it when the IM officer said....you need a new PP. I wish it did....it might have saved me a few brain cells!!
As for nr (2) ...a UK PP CANNOT BE RENEWED IF STILL VALID FOR 9 MONTHS. I found this on the web, ...thepointsguy.co.uk its the earliest it can be done.
But then again that will be something for the future. Tahun 2026. And if they wish to get niggly then ....let it rip.
On another note, all has been submitted for my extension, since 3 weeks back, ( Old KITAP, Old PP, New PP, Copy of KARTU KELUARGA with me and my wifes name on it, ( he also asked to see the ORIGINAL, plus my BUKU NIKAH,

aaaaaaand they even came to the house to photograph my wife. Which she didn,t like ).

have they speeded up the new KITAP process, ar can I expect to wait 3 months like I did for my last one???

[marcus]

(a) ...it never came to mind for me to question it when the IM officer said....you need a new PP. I wish it did....

(b) it might have saved me a few brain cells!!

(c) ...I found this on the web, ...thepointsguy.co.uk its the earliest it can be done...

(d) have they speeded up the new KITAP process, ar can I expect to wait 3 months like I did for my last one???

(a) In this Forum we heard about many absurd requirements , but yes , very few people complain . And I think that what happened is relatively normal as many officers all over the world don't know the Laws/Regulations enough (I was a government employee and have seen this in my country too) .

(b) I guess it was almost the contrary , you did mantain your brain cells (as people say that if you don't use it , you will lose it) . And if you take it positively , you will not be stressed too .

(c) Again , better not believe in just one source of information .

(d) If you intend to travel abroad soon , you can ask them to speed it up a little , otherwise better not to worry about how long it takes (assuming you have photocopy of all the documents , or at least of the KITAP and passport) .