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  • marcus
    Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 9238

    Originally posted by Mody_77 View Post
    1- My Kitas Visa valid till Aprill 2015. and my MERP valid till March, 2015..... can it be valid and am i eligible to live in Indonesia till that time? as per the Govt. rule that you have mentioned above after the death of my wife?

    2- My Step son aged 20 years, can he become my sponsor.or any other family member of my wife's family like her elder brother etc.... my wife's family is willing to to support me in this matter please advise me a solution....... i am in desperate situation ... I am living in Bandung Jawa barat and dealing with Bandung Immigrasi..

    Thanks for your understanding .....


    1. Yes , this is what I understood from the regulation I posted above .


    2. I think any family member can be your new sponsor , but I guess Immigration will prefer the older males of the family . But I think that the new sponsor must live & have KTP/KK at/from the city where you got your KITAS .

    I think you don't need to worry , just go to Kantor Imigrasi to report your wife's death and ask them what to do next , or if you prefer to avoid going there often , you can do the reporting together with the sponsorship change , bringing copies of the new sponsor's KTP/KK and the original request letter from the new sponsor + your passport , KITAS , KITAS "blue book" , photos , marriage certificate , death certificate , around 3 photocopies of everything , + everything else you have (in case I forgot something) .

    KITAS sponsorship change , as far as I know , is a free of charge process but may need approval of all 3 immigration offices (city's Kantor Imigrasi , province's Kantor Wilayah , then Jakarta's Dirctorate General) , so be aware that your passport will be kept by Immigration during around one month , or even more .

    I am not sure what exactly to put in this new sponsor's letter , even so I tried to make a sample (see below) . I am not good with the Indonesian language , so better check that with your Indonesian relatives .

    If you don't want to risk writing a wrong letter , ask Kantor Imigrasi to provide you a sample letter .


    ---------------------------------


    Kepada Yth.
    Bapak Kepala Kantor Imigrasi
    Klas I Bandung
    Di Bandung

    Dengan hormat ,

    Saya yang bertanda tangan di bawah ini :

    Nama : (sponsor's name)
    KTP :
    Kebangsaan : Indonesia
    Pekerjaan : (profession as stated in the KTP)
    Alamat : (address as stated in the KTP)

    Dengan ini saya mengajukan permohonan alih sponsor Izin Tinggal Terbatas dari (# your relation with the sponsor) dikarenakan istri dia (sponsor ITAS) meninggal .
    Adapun data (# same as above) tersebut adalah :

    Nama : (KITAS holder's name)
    Kebangsaan : (nationality)
    Paspor :

    Demikian permohonan ini saya ajukan dan perhatiannya saya ucapkan terima kasih sebesar besarnya .


    Bandung , .......(date)

    Hormat saya (sponsor's signature over a Rp6000 stamp)
    (sponsor's name below signature)
    Last edited by marcus; 05-09-14, 11:10.

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    • Mody_77
      Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 21

      Thank you Marcus and Dzulsiti for the help and condolences........

      Marcus ....man, thanks for your detailed advise ............ looks like a new KITAS application for me.. but what can i do .... no option....... i will do as soon as i got the death certificate of my wife ... right now running around for my wife's official death certificate .... she passed away on 29th August , Marcus,usually in how many days i have to report to this to immigration........ ? i am so sorry to ask man.......

      Thanks

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      • marcus
        Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 9238

        Originally posted by Mody_77 View Post
        ... Marcus,usually in how many days i have to report to this to immigration........ ? ...
        Thanks

        As you saw , that Law doesn't state a time limit . I remember Atlantis (the Forum's law specialist) say we should do it quick , within some 10 days ??? Not sure , I have to check further (or you can ask Kantor Imigrasi about that) .

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        • Mody_77
          Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 21

          Thank you Guys for your kind help and advise.......

          Just yesterday got the initial letter mentioning my wife's death date , time, and related info from my Area ( Desa), in order to get this initial letter you must present photocopy of the following:

          Kitas Card,
          POA Buku (Blue Book)
          Buku Nikah or marriage certificate
          Kartu keluerga
          KTP or ID card of the deceased.....

          it was on the spot delivery for the payment of 10 Ribu...(tip)

          After getting that certificate from my Desa, today,I went to Bandung Kabupaten Civil registry office with the original(s) as well as the photocopies of the above mentioned Documents, my Son accompanied me, had to go to the first floor and at the first right there is a office. It handles all the related birth , Death and registration certificate(s)... politely asked for the advise from the Govt. officer there and they advise me that you have to fill a Blue Form there, in that form mentioning the details as mentioned on Kartu Keluerga in a order ..... they ask for my Son's KTP photocopy as an additional document bcoz of his WNI status, we signed in a register record Book for a witness and they required my Son's Signature as well and then the officer gave me a receipt for collection on Friday....... without any payment so far....... so looks like its done..... after collecting that i will go to Bandung Immigrasi on next Monday to report my Wife's passing away and lets see what will happen........ this is the latest update

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          • DzulSiti
            Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 125

            Hope all the best on your endevour ..

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            • martindo
              Member
              • Mar 2014
              • 2390

              Originally posted by Mody_77 View Post
              Thank you Guys for your kind help and advise.......

              Just yesterday got the initial letter mentioning my wife's death date , time, and related info from my Area ( Desa)
              First, I offer my condolences, too.

              Second, be sure to keep the original of that death cert -- you will need it for any bank account(s) she had. Fairly quick to process inheritance of a bank account here, as it is in US -- much faster than sale of stocks or real estate owned by the deceased.

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              • martindo
                Member
                • Mar 2014
                • 2390

                I want to add something about "informal sector" work while the ITAP domicile visit is fresh in my mind (less than 24 hours ago). The most recent use of this term in this thread appears to be Jaime back in post #1199 in April, according to the "search within thread".

                The Kan Im WNA Section Chief who visited clarified that:
                1. I can keep my spouse-sponsored ITAP and work in the formal sector if I get an IMTA -- NO need to change sponsor.
                2. I can work "informally". I gave some examples of my previous gigs: survey work, editing via internet, teach a workshop at an office in Jakarta for 2 or 3 days -- and he said "ok" for all of these.

                Bear in mind that he was clear that Kan Im has no concerns about the above, but Depnaker or Kantor Pajak may have their own issues.

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                • johntap
                  Member
                  • Apr 2013
                  • 2439

                  Originally posted by martindo View Post
                  I want to add something about "informal sector" work while the ITAP domicile visit is fresh in my mind (less than 24 hours ago). The most recent use of this term in this thread appears to be Jaime back in post #1199 in April, according to the "search within thread".

                  The Kan Im WNA Section Chief who visited clarified that:
                  1. I can keep my spouse-sponsored ITAP and work in the formal sector if I get an IMTA -- NO need to change sponsor.
                  2. I can work "informally". I gave some examples of my previous gigs: survey work, editing via internet, teach a workshop at an office in Jakarta for 2 or 3 days -- and he said "ok" for all of these.

                  Bear in mind that he was clear that Kan Im has no concerns about the above, but Depnaker or Kantor Pajak may have their own issues.
                  Thanks for you update.

                  When oh when will it be made clear? Does it have to be tested in court? Will the law ever be made clearer? How important is it to ROI that many expats do contract work on spouse sponsored visa. And it is an increasing number. Some may do 20 hours a week over 10 weeks.

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                  • martindo
                    Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 2390

                    Originally posted by johntap View Post
                    How important is it to ROI that many expats do contract work on spouse sponsored visa. And it is an increasing number. Some may do 20 hours a week over 10 weeks.
                    Republic of Indonesia (RI) wants to be sure that the Indonesian member of the family is not in poverty, so they want to confirm that you can support your spouse. It seems clear from the experience of everyone I've heard or read (this forum and beyond) that Kan Im is tiptoeing carefully to follow the law and its intent without confronting Depnaker directly. Remember that the local NGO group that pushed for the UU 2011 specifically wanted foreigners (mostly husbands) to be able to support the family if they were not in the rarefied circle of expat execs nor well-heeled owners of businesses nor humble (?) English teachers on salary.

                    As I said a couple weeks ago, and Atlantis confirmed, there is a power play by Depnaker to preserve its perks and fund sources, so they are not motivated at present to issue clear guidelines about yes/no.

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                    • Oetli123
                      Member
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 20

                      I'll move to Indonesia soon. I'll enter Indonesia with a sosbud visa (sponsored by my wife) and convert it to a kitas. Question: can I start this process immediately after arriving in Indonesia?

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                      • marcus
                        Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 9238

                        Originally posted by Oetli123 View Post
                        ... Question: can I start this process immediately after arriving in Indonesia?

                        Yes !

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                        • Jaime C
                          Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 5235

                          Originally posted by Oetli123 View Post
                          I'll move to Indonesia soon. I'll enter Indonesia with a sosbud visa (sponsored by my wife) and convert it to a kitas. Question: can I start this process immediately after arriving in Indonesia?
                          Well, you do need to leave the airport first.

                          Make sure you have the right type of Sosbud. A single entry type has always been what was indicated.
                          Sasa Bule is having a bayi!

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                          • mneekhrey
                            Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 12

                            Hi all,
                            First of all thanks for all the information that is here!!!
                            I am an indian national staying for the past 4 years in batam out of which 3 years i was working with an animation studio. Since the last 1 year i have been staying on multiple entry visa (exit every 60 days). Now i need to make a kitas sponsored by my indonesian wife. I have read atlantis awesome explanation about it and would like to know where the procedure starts, the local kanim part?. My wife's ktp is jakarta but we have been staying in batam sine 2010, does the local Kanim part starts from batam or do i have to travel to jakarta and do all the process there?. If it has to be done in jakarta do i need to have my wife there all the time (she is working as PR manager so spending so many days is not possible)
                            Thanks in advance and keep up the good work.
                            cheers

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                            • marcus
                              Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 9238

                              Originally posted by mneekhrey View Post
                              ... does the local Kanim part starts from batam or do i have to travel to jakarta and do all the process there?...

                              cheers

                              The correct way is to get Batam's KTP & KK and apply at the Batam's Kantor Imigrasi .

                              If your wife is the sponsor of your multiple entry visa , you can ask Kantor Imigrasi about converting it into a KITAS , also sponsored by your wife . If not possible , you will need to leave Indonesia and return with a VITAS or a single entry Social Cultural & Family Visit Visa (single entry Sosbud Visa) . This last (Sosbud Visa) is what I suggest you to choose , because this way you don't need to go to Jakarta (or have someone in Jakarta) , necessary for the VITAS way .

                              Note : If your present Visa is near to expire , you can get the single entry Sosbud Visa with the Jakarta's KTP , but better apply for the Batam's KTP/KK as soon as possible .
                              Bring a copy of the marriage certificate to the Embassy , as it may be requested .

                              http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...s+Kuala+Lumpur (how to get a Sosbud in KL)

                              http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...0822#post60822 (post no.12 , agents in Singapore)

                              http://www.indonesiaimmigration.com/...s.detail&id=28 (agent in Singapore)

                              Note : Agent in Singapore is suggested if you want a express service (same day Visa)
                              Last edited by marcus; 22-09-14, 23:15.

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                              • mneekhrey
                                Member
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 12

                                Thanks Marcus for the reply. Getting a ktp for batam is not an option as we are planning to setup some business in bali and would move there by the next year. I guess doing the sosbud way and getting things done from jakarta is the only option. I guess need to find an agent as it will be financially not wise to stay in jakarta for the duration of the whole process.

                                cheers

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