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  • fastpitch17
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    • Sep 2012
    • 3404

    Damn, what a few miles difference can mean when it comes to an Immigration office. Turned in my paperwork received in Jakarta to transfer my KITAS to Lampung. Had everything they needed except they wanted an additional sponsor letter directed at their office. Like we were accustomed to in Jakarta, we asked where we could go and have the sponsor letter typed up? We got a look and the Immigration officer said he would just type it up for us. They even help fill out the forms. WHAT? Service over and above what is required? Well. I've never. He said he would call in a few days to let us know everything was ready. I am actually believing he will.

    My KITAS is close to needing renewal so we asked about that. Said bring it in a few weeks prior to expiration and they will have it back to me in a week to 10 days. OK, they are not as busy a Jakarta or cities with a lot of expats but still, it's just nice to run into these type of government offices. I think a few boxes of donuts are sue these folks.

    OK, need to edit. They have already contacted me that my transfer is complete. The next day. How about that? Looking like this Immigration office is very professional and everyone has been more then nice and helpful. No longer dreading when I need to renew my KITAS. Don't expect any problems what so ever. No coffee money paid either.
    Last edited by fastpitch17; 06-08-14, 14:10.
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    • martindo
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      • Mar 2014
      • 2390

      The Dokim needs to be filled in for the MERP request. So, to simplify matters, it seems that they created the same template for both ITAS and MERP.

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      • bignick
        Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 4

        I am in the process of converting my social budaya to a KITAS. DirJen Jakarta requested that the local immigration office interview my wife and I, which they just finished last week and have just today send the report to Jakarta. Anyway, my sosbud is almost up (September 11). The immigration official mentioned that if I extend my SosBud, the process for the KITAS will have to start all over again. It was my understanding that I could extend my sosbud while the process for the KITAS continued.

        Does anyone know if there are laws that allow me to extend without having to repeat the process all over again? Any help would be very appreciated.

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        • atlantis
          Banned
          • Jul 2008
          • 16593

          Originally posted by bignick View Post
          I am in the process of converting my social budaya to a KITAS. DirJen Jakarta requested that the local immigration office interview my wife and I, which they just finished last week and have just today send the report to Jakarta. Anyway, my sosbud is almost up (September 11). The immigration official mentioned that if I extend my SosBud, the process for the KITAS will have to start all over again. It was my understanding that I could extend my sosbud while the process for the KITAS continued.

          Does anyone know if there are laws that allow me to extend without having to repeat the process all over again? Any help would be very appreciated.
          An extension is NOT a terminaison. Extending your sosbud permit is the way to go. The officer in Imigrasi is wrong. Ignore him.

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          • marcus
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            • Jul 2008
            • 9238

            Originally posted by bignick View Post
            ...The immigration official mentioned that if I extend my SosBud, the process for the KITAS will have to start all over again. It was my understanding that I could extend my sosbud while the process for the KITAS continued ...

            appreciated.

            By the way , I once got a similar information from the "Izin Kunjungan" counter (Sosial Budaya , Business) . The officer told me that , as a extension process needs the passport , they could not do it as my passport was kept in the KITAS' process . So I talked to the sector boss (Sosial Budaya , KITAS , KITAP , ..) and she said to me to not worry about , just wait a little more for the KITAS final Jakarta's approval .

            Other posters here did extend the Sosial Budaya during the KITAS process , so I suggest you to talk to the the ITAS counter's officer (in our Immigration , the counters of the 2 processes are separated) and/or with the section boss , about the solution for that . There will be no need to start the KITAS process again after they had accepted the request and gave you the request's receipt (named "Tanda Terima Permohonan ITAS" or similar) .

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            • fastpitch17
              Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 3404

              What is the typical process of converting a KITAS 1 to a KITAS II? Anything special you need or is it like getting KITAS I with sponsor KTP, Marriage Document, Sponsor Letter, and Passport with KITAS I. Without all the running around. Any UU that mentions the process?
              thanks.
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              • marcus
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                • Jul 2008
                • 9238

                Originally posted by fastpitch17 View Post
                (1) What is the typical process of converting a KITAS 1 to a KITAS II? ...

                (2) Any UU that mentions the process?
                thanks.

                (1) Basically the requirements documents are the same . The first KITAS extension doesn't need Jakarta's Immigration Directorate's approval .

                (2) No (as far as I know) .

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                • fastpitch17
                  Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 3404

                  Originally posted by marcus View Post
                  (1) Basically the requirements documents are the same . The first KITAS extension doesn't need Jakarta's Immigration Directorate's approval .

                  (2) No (as far as I know) .
                  Thanks Marcus,
                  I went to Immigration office yesterday. Gave them the same paperwork as the first one in Jakarta. Filled out the documents there, changed the Sponsor letter to how they like it, and was told they will call in Two days for us to pick up documents that will need to be taken to the Wilaya where I will receive a document to bring back to the KamIm and I will have my KITAS II. I asked to pay for it but was told just wait until it's finished. They take the picture for the KITAS but still need to supply a 3X4 picture in triplicate to affix to the documents. Said to just bring them when I return after their call. So far, so good.
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                  • KembangSepatu
                    Member
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 35

                    Hope all is well with your process Fast Pitch. I'm picking up my letter of recommendation to covert ITAS to ITAP tomorrow at Kelapa Gading, hope there's no drama with mine.
                    "For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips speak only words of kindness..." - Audrey Hepburn

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                    • Mody_77
                      Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 21

                      Hi there ... guys ...... i need an urgent advise, i am married to my Indonesian wife for nearly 5 1/2 years, she passed away last month , i have a Kitas visa sponsored by her and it was a Second kitas visa... i mean renewed for the 2nd time... i am a professional expat working in Dubai mainly, and travel a lot between jakarta and middle east region, have MERP of one year as well... can you guys advise me what is the best way out for me to keeping my Indonesian visa valid, also i have a step son Indonesian citizen aged 20 years from my wife's previous marriage, he is like a son to me and we are very worried about the current situation ...need an urgent word of advise ...thanks

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                      • marcus
                        Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 9238

                        Originally posted by Mody_77 View Post
                        ... my Indonesian wife .. , she passed away last month , i have a Kitas visa sponsored by her ... can you guys advise me what is the best way out for me to keeping my Indonesian visa valid, ...
                        thanks

                        First thing to do is to report that to your Kantor Imigrasi (required by Article 71 & 116 of UU no.6/2011) .

                        At the same time , I think you need to present a new sponsor for your present KITAS (one of your wife's relative ?) . See Article 160 of PP no.31/2013 below .

                        I suppose that after that you cannot extend the KITAS anymore , but better check that with your Kantor Imigrasi .

                        In case you cannot extend your KITAS anymore , you will have to choose other types of visa for coming to Indonesia (a one year multiple entry Social Cultural & Family Visit Visa , a 60 days Tourist Visa , a 30 days Visa-on-Arrival , ...)


                        http://www.expat.or.id/info/docs.html (visas/documents)



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                        UU no.6 , year 2011

                        [FONT=Georgia]Article 71[/FONT]
                        [FONT=Georgia]Each Foreigners residing in the Territory of Indonesia shall:[/FONT]
                        [FONT=Georgia]a. provide all necessary information regarding the identity and / or their families, and report any changes in civil status, nationality, occupation, Guarantor, or a change of address to the local Immigration Office; or
                        b. ...

                        [/FONT]
                        [FONT=Georgia]Article 116[/FONT]
                        [FONT=Georgia]Each Foreigners who do not perform their obligations as stipulated in Article 71 shall be punished with a maximum confinement of 3 (three) months or a fine of up to 25,000,000, 00 (twenty five million rupiah).[/FONT]

                        [FONT=Georgia]

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                        PP no.31 , year 2013

                        Pasal 160
                        (1) Dalam hal suami atau istri warga negara Indonesia meninggal dunia, Izin Tinggal terbatas atau Izin Tinggal Tetap Orang Asing yang diperoleh karena perkawinan campuran tetap berlaku.

                        (1) KITAS and KITAP continue valid in case of the death of the Indonesian spouse who was also the sponsor.

                        (2) Orang Asing sebagaimana dimaksud pada ayat (1) yang suami atau istrinya warga negara Indonesia meninggal dunia harus memiliki Penjamin berkewarganegaraan Indonesia.

                        (2) In the case above , the foreigner must have an Indonesian sponsor.

                        Note : Non-official translations above , done with the help of [/FONT]Google Translate [FONT=Georgia] [/FONT]
                        Last edited by marcus; 04-09-14, 11:53.

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                        • Mody_77
                          Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 21

                          Thanks marcus for your advise ... i have 02 questions regarding your reply......

                          1- My Kitas Visa valid till Aprill 2015. and my MERP valid till March, 2015..... can it be valid and am i eligible to live in Indonesia till that time? as per the Govt. rule that you have mentioned above after the death of my wife?
                          2- My Step son aged 20 years, can he become my sponsor.or any other family member of my wife's family like her elder brother etc.... my wife's family is willing to to support me in this matter please advise me a solution....... i am in desperate situation ..........

                          I am living in Bandung Jawa barat and dealing with Bandung Immigrasi.....

                          Thanks for your understanding .....

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                          • Jaime C
                            Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 5235

                            Bandung Immigrasi isn't bad. I know there was a law saying if you were married and had a Kitas for so many years, you were "vested". Perhaps it was 10 years? How long do you usually stay in Bandung?

                            I'm sorry for the loss of your wife.
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                            • Mody_77
                              Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 21

                              Thanks for the condolence ....
                              yeah...Bandung Immigrasi is not that bad but slow i guess.....I was married to my Indonesian wife since last 05 1/2 years, it will be nearly 06 years in this Coming December, ... just recently finished my Contract in Dubai and i was in no mood to renew it, i was planing to settle in Indonesia with my wife..but then my wife passed away ... i dont know which way it will heading...... very disturbed by the events and now this immigration issue .......... dont know what to do...... very confusing situation....

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                              • DzulSiti
                                Member
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 125

                                My condolence to your lost too. I recently doing my ITAP and when there. They have change the supervisor, she is ok lady which was previous posted there from Batam. Why not go there with your step son to query if not when I pick up my ITAP at Sukabumi I can ask the guy there what to do and get back to you this coming Monday?

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