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  • #91
    Excellent and encouraging updates! If this is the route that we choose to take and after my wife updates her KTP, then I will be making a visit to KanIm Jakarta Pusat as well...
    [COLOR=#0000ff]"The earth is one country and mankind its citizens."
    What if we begin to view each other as part of one human family?[/COLOR]

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    • #92
      Sorry not to have found time to "come in" earlier.
      As it has been said, absolutely no age requirement for a KITAS sponsored by an indonesian wife/husband. Just the fact that you are married to a national is enough and no one could reject an application on an age motivation. The residency right for a foreign husband/wife is also indirectly guaranteed by the citizenship act of 2006 which grants a right to citizenshipfor a foreign spouse after five years of residency.
      Age is a dtermining factor only for a retirement KITAS. No PNS would take the risk of "rejecting" a KITAS sponsored by an indonesian spouse.Furthermore, the people you would met have no power to accept or reject your application. Only the Direktur Izin Tinggal dan Status keimigrasian has this power... and he knows well the law. Marriage certificate + enough fund = NO refusal. Period.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by all4ywh View Post
        Excellent and encouraging updates! If this is the route that we choose to take and after my wife updates her KTP, then I will be making a visit to KanIm Jakarta Pusat as well...
        Hi,

        Is your wife's registered address (KK and KTP) falls under Jakarta Pusat area? If so, procceed on to Jakarta Pusat Kanim. If not, they 'MIGHT' try to 'push' you to go to your local Kanim.

        (Sorry, I'm assuming this as in your previous post you said that you went to Jakarta Utara Kanim).

        I'm not too sure whether there is a regulation on this...

        If you are going to Jakarta Pusat Kanim for your KITAS, remember to do your stretching exercises... coz you are going to go up and down the stairs often...

        Btw, my wife did not update her KTP to show a change a marital status... but as Atlantis once said... you won't want any delays during your KITAS application due to this...
        Last edited by tingkap; 10-12-09, 07:12.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by tingkap View Post
          Hi,

          Is your wife's registered address (KK and KTP) falls under Jakarta Pusat area? If so, procceed on to Jakarta Pusat Kanim. If not, they 'MIGHT' try to 'push' you to go to your local Kanim.

          (Sorry, I'm assuming this as in your previous post you said that you went to Jakarta Utara Kanim).

          I'm not too sure whether there is a regulation on this...

          If you are going to Jakarta Pusat Kanim for your KITAS, remember to do your stretching exercises... coz you are going to go up and down the stairs often...

          Btw, my wife did not update her KTP to show a change a marital status... but as Atlantis once said... you won't want any delays during your KITAS application due to this...

          We attempted to first apply at KanIm Pusat (we live only 2 km from KanIm Pusat, compared to 10 km from KanIm Utara) for the Sosbud 1st extension but the KanIm official strongly referred us to go to Utara in Kelapa Gading (we had no idea it existed) after looking at the address on my wife's KTP (Kelapa Gading)...ughhh...I have inquired with her before about updating her KTP with our current address as her understanding had been that it was not necessary because she changed addresses within North Jakarta. But now she is motivated to update to avoid any hassle with a KITAS application!

          Which leads me to another question about updating the address on the KTP while currently holding a Sosbud that I will post here: http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...0537#post50537
          Last edited by all4ywh; 10-12-09, 23:00.
          [COLOR=#0000ff]"The earth is one country and mankind its citizens."
          What if we begin to view each other as part of one human family?[/COLOR]

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          • #95
            Hi All,

            I have completed my KITAS and Re-Entry permit process. Now I got my POA (Blue) book with my KITAS, the only hiccup was that they won't allow me to get a full year Re-Entry permit except for a 6-month one. Wasn't bothered to argue and left the place and hopefully not return for the next 6 months....

            I also had my KIP (Kartu Izin Penduduk) done and will collect it next week. Interestingly, I can get photos from the Koperasi at the Immigrasi for my KIP. FYI, this is the same set which was taken for the KITAS & Fingerprinting... (No Extra fees). I hope what they tell me is true... as I never see them personally hand the photos over to the CAPIL loket.

            Will go down to the Polisi on Monday to get my SKLD done.....

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            • #96
              Hi all, need help here. We jst got a letter fr Local Kanim on the proccess of Alih Status fr SosBud to Itas but Local Kanim hold my husband passport? They gave us 2 set of photocopy with stamp on it to bring it to Kanwil n Ditjen in Jakarta. I thought we need the passport to show it to Kanwil n Ditjen and do they have the right to hold my husband passport for it? Thanks

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              • #97
                Originally posted by EndahPra View Post
                Hi all, need help here. We jst got a letter fr Local Kanim on the proccess of Alih Status fr SosBud to Itas but Local Kanim hold my husband passport? They gave us 2 set of photocopy with stamp on it to bring it to Kanwil n Ditjen in Jakarta. I thought we need the passport to show it to Kanwil n Ditjen and do they have the right to hold my husband passport for it? Thanks
                You don't need your husband's passport neither in the KanWil nor in the DitJenIm. No worries. The KanWil will take the two letter, keep one and give you a new letter along with the one remaining from the KanIm. This new set of letters should be brought to DitJenIm.
                Consider yourself lucky, you have just been promoted Postman...

                Yes, they have the right to hold your husband passport during the procedure. They sometimes do, sometimes don't. My KanIm is now not keeping anyone's passport since the day the building of the POA section burnt down with a few passport inside...
                Last edited by atlantis; 02-05-12, 05:47.

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                • #98
                  Thks Atlantis, we went to Kanwil Bandung last friday n that 'Pejabat' said that we hv to provide a copy of letter fr my husband embassy that we submitted to KUA before we got married which is 4 yrs ago....WTF??? He said after that then i get a letter so i'll be back tmrw to Kanwil with that copy. Good thing that KUA was so nice to lend us the letter so we can make a copy of it and i also ask KUA to legalized the copy of Buku Nikah....just in case. So...you think that 'Pejabat' try to get $$$$ fr us? Is anyone hv same experienced at Kanwil Bandung? I stil dont know why Kanim n Kanwil never ask abt Riwayat Hidup. Do you hv sample of Riwayat Hidup? So far I only paid for copy, materai n 'map'....not even fee for the form that i hv to filled.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by EndahPra View Post
                    Thks Atlantis, we went to Kanwil Bandung last friday n that 'Pejabat' said that we hv to provide a copy of letter fr my husband embassy that we submitted to KUA before we got married which is 4 yrs ago....WTF??? He said after that then i get a letter so i'll be back tmrw to Kanwil with that copy. Good thing that KUA was so nice to lend us the letter so we can make a copy of it and i also ask KUA to legalized the copy of Buku Nikah....just in case. So...you think that 'Pejabat' try to get $$$$ fr us? Is anyone hv same experienced at Kanwil Bandung? I stil dont know why Kanim n Kanwil never ask abt Riwayat Hidup. Do you hv sample of Riwayat Hidup? So far I only paid for copy, materai n 'map'....not even fee for the form that i hv to filled.
                    1. About the demand from the KanWil it is not over surprising. They sometimes demand extra documents concerning the marriage but it is rare. I have heard that some people were requested to submit legalised copies of their akta perkawinan, a certificate from the foreign embassy stating than the foreigner is not married overseas...etc. It just prove the lack of confidence that Pejabat have in their own indonesian administration... They know very well that in Indonesia anyone can get a marriage certificate without even being married! Sometimes, especially if they don't know the couple, they may ask a bit more than the legal requirements.
                    2. The forms are always "free". It would be illegal for them to ask money for the forms. Instead they ask money for the "map" (folder) where one put the forms. It allows them to say that you didn't buy the forms but the "map"/folder only. Note than the "map" is compulsory. Smart and not illegal. And anyway this is only small money.
                    Last edited by atlantis; 24-01-10, 21:35.

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                    • This might be all hypothetical, but just in case.........I'm curious, due to one thing and another (please don't all ask at once what those things might be, as it's a bit of a touchy situation and would open a whole new can of worms....or even a whole new thread....better than any sinetron, for sure).........Is it at all possible to get a divorce from one woman, then to marry another, have the new one sponsor me for a new KITAS, without leaving the country? - more of a wife conversion than a KITAS conversion. If it is, what steps and money might be involved? A pejabat in Bandung quoted Rp 10 juta, while a pejabat in Jogja quoted Rp5 juta, though I havern't got to the bottom of that yet, it's confusing, somewhat. Wife-swapping conduses me too, unpredictable creatures at times.....present company excepted, naturally.

                      On the other hand.....maybe it's time to cut and run
                      Last edited by Al.Gray; 06-02-10, 04:29.

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                      • Originally posted by Al.Gray View Post
                        This might be all hypothetical, but just in case.........I'm curious, due to one thing and another (please don't all ask at once what those things might be, as it's a bit of a touchy situation and would open a whole new can of worms....or even a whole new thread....better than any sinetron, for sure).........Is it at all possible to get a divorce from one woman, then to marry another, have the new one sponsor me for a new KITAS, without leaving the country? - more of a wife conversion than a KITAS conversion. If it is, what steps and money might be involved? A pejabat in Bandung quoted Rp 10 juta, while a pejabat in Jogja quoted Rp5 juta, though I havern't got to the bottom of that yet, it's confusing, somewhat. Wife-swapping conduses me too, unpredictable creatures at times.....present company excepted, naturally.

                        On the other hand.....maybe it's time to cut and run
                        Well... IMHO... do one thing at a time.... close the case of the current KITAS/wife... return everything... KITAS, SKLD (all the documents containing the current wife's name)... fly out of the the country... get a Sosbud with the new wife as sponsor.... get married legally.. convert to a new KITAS with the new wife as sponsor..... etc etc...

                        Legal fees should be standard... Rp.700k for KITAS + other miscellaneous fees... but other costs of the divorce may be high in terms of emotionally, physically and money...

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                        • Originally posted by Al.Gray View Post
                          ..Is it at all possible to get a divorce from one woman, then to marry another,... what steps and money might be involved?
                          If you married at the KUA (Muslim) , divorce at "Pengadilan Agama" (Religion Court) may cost as low as about Rp250.000 ( the case I know took just 3 weeks but the couple was already separated more than 3 years and there was no litigation ) . To marry at KUA , not sure yet as the officer said : "depends on how much documents you have" , but seems to be around Rp1 million .
                          Last edited by marcus; 06-02-10, 18:53.

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                          • Originally posted by tingkap View Post
                            ... I literally made the trip just to make payment and have to come back again another day for collection of the MERP. I don't understand why can't we make the payment after the submission?...
                            Unfortunately this procedure is not only for MERP but probably for everything . In my many years dealing sosbud extensions , they only ask me to pay before the boss sign the passport . Many times the boss was not at the office or the officer thought it would take long time , so I had to just do the payment and return the following day .

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                            • I would rather pay them the first day. If they refuse my application then they give it back with my passport the second and final day I go in. That would mean during the first extension they would have to walk 20 meters to the photographers room to confirm my photo was in the system and possibly make one photo copy of the stamp. Thats the reason they make me come in the second time and then the third.

                              Btw, know anyone who has ever been refused an extension on a Sosbud? Me neither.

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                              • Originally posted by Pimpin View Post
                                I would rather pay them the first day.
                                Who wouldn't? It irritates me that they accepted my application today, come back the following day to just make a payment and back on another day to collect everything.......

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