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  • brodee
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    • May 2013
    • 637

    easy to be confused seeing as were on page 102

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    • DzulSiti
      Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 125

      Originally posted by marcus View Post
      Just pay if they provide you with an official receipt (stamped/signed) .

      The STM is officially free , so ... (Rp10'000 tip is usual , if they give you the STM within 30 minutes) .
      The one year SKLD officially cost Rp100'000 (no tip is necessary) .

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      Be informed that both STM and SKLD are not required anymore , although for the foreigner's registration at the Catatan Sipil (for the SKTT) they may still request a copy of the STM or the SKLD (in my city they requested the STM) .
      I have just come back from Bandung. Thank you for the advice. I need to wait 1 month for my SKLD and it is Rp100,000. Is there a "memo" stated that the STM and SKLD is not necessary anymore? Because the immigration officer request I got one and if not mistaken I read some of the law foreigner need to register if not why Police Intel was setup for WNA??

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      • DzulSiti
        Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 125

        Originally posted by brodee View Post
        been 2 weeks since i submitted my forms and 8 days since my home visit .still haven't heard any thing more,maybe i'll try to sms them tomorrow or just go there next week(i believe mon,tues.is a holiday)..or should i just sit and wait?
        If it close to you just pay them a visit best still call them if you have their contact number like I do. Luckly for me he is friendly and helpfull.

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        • DzulSiti
          Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 125

          Originally posted by brodee View Post
          No not yet,its a 2 day trip to Bali and back but i suppose i'll have to do it,I tried emailing them but no reply!Old mate who did the home visit said it's not urgent hmmm....Had a bad connection when ringing Jember today so will probably just go there on Wednesday when they open again! oh,,we got married in Indo at KUA
          When I was married at KUA at Batam the office give me "Surat Keterangan Nikah" or Letter of Marriage. This is the want Bandung Kanwil asking. Do you have it? If not you can return to KUA ask them a letter stating that yes you have married there with you wife. All detail of you and your wife like KTP and Passport number must be in it. Cheers.

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          • jstar
            Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 6054

            Originally posted by DzulSiti View Post
            Is there a "memo" stated that the STM and SKLD is not necessary anymore? Because the immigration officer request I got one and if not mistaken I read some of the law foreigner need to register if not why Police Intel was setup for WNA??
            The problem is, it is more a matter of reduction - deduction - conclusion of existing laws. And that is not their strength.

            So the UU 9/1992 got canceled by pasal (article) 142 of UU 6/2011 (tentang keimigrasian); this one came into effect on 5 May 2011. In the 'old' 1992 law, pasal 60 covered the STM and pasal 61 described the necessity of having the SKLD.

            This is the infamous article 142 of UU 6/2011:
            Pada saat Undang-Undang ini mulai berlaku:
            a. Undang-Undang Nomor 9 Tahun 1992 tentang Keimigrasian (Lembaran Negara Republik Indonesia Tahun 1992 Nomor 33, Tambahan Lembaran Negara Republik Indonesia Nomor 3474);
            b. .....................;
            c. .....................dicabut dan dinyatakan tidak berlaku.

            Therefore the law of 1992 is abrogated and no longer active.
            Last edited by jstar; 11-10-13, 18:58. Reason: And in 6/2011 there is no mentioning of STM & SKLD of course.
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            • DzulSiti
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              • Dec 2012
              • 125

              Thanks. How about the next step? Is the below still valid? where is "Catatan Sipil" located?

              [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]18[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]. The foreigner has to go to his Kantor Lurah to get a Surat keterengan domisili stating his formal address in Indonesia and he should bring this letter to his Catatan Sipil to get a SKTT (Surat Keterangan Tempat Tinggal), a SKPPS (surat keterengan pendaftaran penduduk sementara) and a SKDLN (Surat Keterengan Datang dari Luar Negeri). A foreigner staying on a KITAS MUST register at the Capil for the above documents. It will help smothen a KITAP procedure later. In fact, chances are that the CaPil compil the three documents and issue a nice greenish card attesting your residency and registration as a temporary resident for the length of the KITAS. Fees for it are defined by Peraturan Daerah and varies depending on each kota/kabupaten. It shouldn't cost more than IDR 150K.[/FONT][/COLOR]
              [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Be careful you have 14 days to do so after the date of issuance of the KITAS (Pasal 20, undang undang 23 tahun 2006 tentang Administrasi Kependudukan) to register. Failure to do so in time would expose you to a fine of a maximum of IDR 2.000K (Pasal 89, undang undang 23 tahun 2006 tentang Administrasi Kependudukan).[/FONT][/COLOR]
              [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]19[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]. Your next move will be to go to the Departemen Pajak to get a NPWP, the husband's personal tax number... [/FONT][/COLOR]
              Last edited by DzulSiti; 11-10-13, 19:34.

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              • marcus
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                • Jul 2008
                • 9247

                Originally posted by DzulSiti View Post
                (a) ... Is there a "memo" stated that the STM and SKLD is not necessary anymore?

                (b) Because the immigration officer request I got one

                (c) and if not mistaken I read some of the law foreigner need to register if not why Police Intel was setup for WNA??
                (a) No "memo" . There are UU6 - 2011 and PP31 - 2013 (see thread below) .

                http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...nge-of-address (STM/SKLD not required anymore after PP31 - 2013)

                (b) You are the first I know (from this Forum) who was requested to get Police's STM/SKLD by an immigration officer .

                (c) STM/SKLD were required until some months ago [see link in (a) above] .

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                • jstar
                  Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 6054

                  Originally posted by DzulSiti View Post
                  Thanks. How about the next step? Is the below still valid? where is "Catatan Sipil" located?

                  [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]18[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]. The foreigner has to go to his Kantor Lurah to get a Surat keterengan domisili stating his formal address in Indonesia and he should bring this letter to his Catatan Sipil to get a SKTT (Surat Keterangan Tempat Tinggal), a SKPPS (surat keterengan pendaftaran penduduk sementara) and a SKDLN (Surat Keterengan Datang dari Luar Negeri). A foreigner staying on a KITAS MUST register at the Capil for the above documents.[/FONT][/COLOR]
                  [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]19[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]. Your next move will be to go to the Departemen Pajak to get a NPWP, the husband's personal tax number... [/FONT][/COLOR]
                  Yes, you need SKTT. Among other reasons, otherwise you won't get a NIK (some kind of national ID number) and that will make it very hard to buy a car or motorcycle for instance.

                  Catatan Sipil* is the civil registry in your province.

                  NPWP is a personal tax identification number. You will find more info on this forum, there are some discussions about the necessity and desirability of such a registration.

                  *Other names used, depending on the region, are:
                  • ‘Dinas Kependudukan’;
                  • ‘Kantor Pendaftaran Penduduk Dan Catatan Sipil’;
                  • ‘Dinas Kependudukan’;
                  • ‘Tenaga Kerja Dan Social’;
                  • ‘Dinas Tenaga Kerja’;
                  • ‘Mobilitas Dan Pendaftaran Penduduk’.
                  Last edited by jstar; 12-10-13, 09:21. Reason: Synonyms CatSip
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                  • DzulSiti
                    Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 125

                    Skld

                    Originally posted by marcus View Post
                    (a) No "memo" . There are UU6 - 2011 and PP31 - 2013 (see thread below) .

                    http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...nge-of-address (STM/SKLD not required anymore after PP31 - 2013)

                    (b) You are the first I know (from this Forum) who was requested to get Police's STM/SKLD by an immigration officer .

                    (c) STM/SKLD were required until some months ago [see link in (a) above] .
                    When I was at POLDA yesterday I saw and English guy was collecting his SKLD with his wife. And base on Marcus suggestion to ask POLDA Bandung if it require for the SKLD is a sound suggestion which I decide to have it. In a way it will be good for me to in case there a spot check and since it come from polisian there should not any issue. What do you carry as a prove as a legal WNA? Thanks.

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                    • DzulSiti
                      Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 125

                      Thanks jstar much appreciated.

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                      • atlantis
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 16593

                        Originally posted by DzulSiti View Post
                        What do you carry as a prove as a legal WNA? Thanks.
                        The fact that one carries or not a valid SKLD doesn't prove that he/she is a legal alien. A SKLD was just a prove of police registration. You cold have terminated your immigration status and kept the SKLD.

                        If it is about proving your legal immigration status, only the original passport and KITAS/KITAP can be considered. If it is about proving your identity, a SIM (issued by the police) or a SKTT/KTP OA are more than enough. So does a copy of your passport accompanied with a polite statement that the original can e brought on request. I've been living 12 years+ in Indonesia and am yet to meet anyone asking me more than any of the three above document during my domestic travel throughout the archipelago.

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                        • marcus
                          Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 9247

                          Originally posted by DzulSiti View Post
                          (i) ... And base on Marcus suggestion to ask POLDA Bandung if it require for the SKLD is a sound suggestion which I decide to have it.

                          (ii) In a way it will be good for me to in case there a spot check and since it come from polisian there should not any issue.

                          (iii) What do you carry as a prove as a legal WNA? Thanks.
                          (i) I did not suggest that . If you ask POLDA (province's Police) , they will probably say the SKLD is required .

                          (ii) I guess that if you have a high probability of being checked by the Police , it is better to have a SKLD even not being required .

                          (iii) In more than 10 years in Indonesia , no government officer/Police officer ever asked me to prove my legal condition . But I carry copies of the KITAP and the SKLD . I have the SKLD because I got it when it was still required , and I carry a copy of it just because there is my address on it (the KITAP has no address) .
                          Last edited by marcus; 14-10-13, 09:50.

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                          • DzulSiti
                            Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 125

                            Thank you Marcus and Atlantis and my apology if i make a wrong assumption. I have intention to convert to WNI and next year is my 2nd year anniversary of marriage and base on the new law I able to convert to KITAP but when I collect my KITAS and relate this to the immigration officer he told me to wait for 2-3 KITAS then apply.What is your suggestion?? Much appreciated your advice. Thanks.

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                            • marcus
                              Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 9247

                              Originally posted by DzulSiti View Post
                              ... next year is my 2nd year anniversary of marriage and base on the new law I able to convert to KITAP but .. the immigration officer he told me to wait for 2-3 KITAS then apply.What is your suggestion?? .. Thanks.
                              Next year that immigration officer may have a different answer for that . This because some officers are still using the old rule (KITAP after getting the 3rd KITAS) , instead of the new rule (KITAP after 2 years of marriage) .

                              If not , either you try to convince the officer that there is this new rule , or wait for the 3rd KITAS .
                              Last edited by marcus; 14-10-13, 09:59.

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                              • DzulSiti
                                Member
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 125

                                Originally posted by marcus View Post
                                Next year that immigration officer may have a different answer for that . This because some officers are still using the old rule (KITAP after getting the 3rd KITAS) , instead of the new rule (KITAP after 2 years of marriage) .

                                If not , either you try to convince the officer that there is this new rule , or wait for the 3rd KITAS .
                                I will try my luck next year. Since tomorror is holiday I will go to Dinas Cipil to get the SKTT. Thanks.

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