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  • Chuckman
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    • Sep 2009
    • 2

    #61
    Dear atlantis,

    Thank you for the information. That's a relief. I may have a few questions to ask you later on but I just wanted to say again how much you and this forum mean to my wife and I. She's just arrived in Indonesia to be with her family for the Ramadan occassion. Due to work commitments I will be joining her in 2 weeks time on a 30-day visa. I really cannot wait to see her family in Labuan. I haven't seen them for 3 years. There's nothing like spending time with family.

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    • Tantori
      Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 110

      #62
      Hi,

      I am new in this forum.
      Glad I found this website, I have been lost for sometime.

      My French husband wants to stay in Indonesia. I haven't read much all the posted information, only slightly.

      Thanks to atlantis for the all informations he posted on this forum.
      I may say, You are very very good for such person who doesn't originally come from Indonesia about Indonesian Law.

      I hope I can get all clear information how to apply KITAS for my silly husband from this forum.

      Bonne Journee
      And I wish you all have a nice day
      [COLOR=black]Your greatness is measured by your gifts, not your possessions
      [/COLOR]

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      • atlantis
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        • Jul 2008
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        #63
        Originally posted by Tantori View Post
        I am new in this forum.
        Welcome to the forum then...
        Originally posted by Tantori View Post
        Thanks to atlantis for the all informations he posted on this forum.
        I may say, You are very very good for such person who doesn't originally come from Indonesia about Indonesian Law.
        You are welcome. Appreciated. In Indonesia there is this unwritten motto which says "know the law or get screwed". I have choosen my side long ago and did my homework.
        Originally posted by Tantori View Post
        I hope I can get all clear information how to apply KITAS for my silly husband from this forum.
        It ain't difficult, especially if you are married. However it requires that you tell us a bit more about you guys or to ask specific questions. You can do it in french if you wish (and if you speak it and feel more confortable with it than english). I speak it reasonnably well and should be able to guide you through the procedure.

        Originally posted by Tantori View Post
        Bonne Journee
        And I wish you all have a nice day
        Bonne journée à toi aussi...

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        • Tantori
          Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 110

          #64
          Hello atlantis



          I couldn’t agree more, as you mentioned on your signature “Kami harus melakukan sesuai dengan persyaratan dan peraturan yang berlaku untuk Indonesia lebih baik “ in the same time you guys teach our government to stick with they own regulations.


          understand how frustrated you guys specially for the beginner applicant. Compare to what my husband ‘s experience here when applied for my extension visa, it was not really complicated, only needed patience, as it took 8 months to get it, surprisingly I got PR instead of extension 5 years (under EEC regulation). Hoping being patience I can get the same thing when I apply KITAS for my husband ... duuuuh


          But as sponsor of my husband I will find and deal with everything without agent being involved, specially when you have to renew KITAS for your husband every damn year... good idea to know What, Who, Where, and How. I am not really patience enough but with preparation like fasting Monday and thursday, meditation 24 hour a day, 7 days of week might reduce my temper... I hope ;p


          FYI..I don’t speak French fluently, I feel comfortable speak English and Indonesian of course. English would do OK.


          Currently we both live in UK, got married 5 years ago, but not registered our marriage in Indonesia (Now I regretted). At the moment we are in stage where I sent my English Marriage Certificate to Indonesian Embassy in London to be translated to Indonesian Language and asked for legal stamp in order to register our marriage once we are in Indonesia for KITAS application purposes as I have been told from this forum (correct me if I am wrong please).


          The next step I read from this forum is my husband need to apply Visa SosBud to enter Indonesia, and I will be his sponsor. Dully noted..... but a little bit confused about the extension visa before I apply KITAS for my husband.


          My understanding is before 7 days visa sosbud expired, my husband need to submit application for extension visa so he will have plenty of time when his KITAS in process. But why he can only extend the visa every 30 days? How does it work along with KITAS application processing ? Will you be so kind to explain to me ?


          The next step, I guess will deal with Police, Catatan Sipil, Lurah, RT/RW once my Husband's KITAS approved, I will look through again this section along with information I got from you.


          Many many thanks in advance for your great help and support.
          [COLOR=black]Your greatness is measured by your gifts, not your possessions
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          • tingkap
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 126

            #65
            Hi,

            I am preparing to launch my KITAS ikut isteri application next month. Just a few questions...

            a) Can I produce a return ferry ticket (Batam-Singapore) instead of a flight tix to Jakarta?

            b) Any format needed for the Riwayat Hidup document or a translated CV would suffice?

            c) Anyone have experience dealing with the KanIM for Jakarta Pusat? - as my wife is staying at Jakarta Pusat...

            d) Any tips..?

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            • atlantis
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              • Jul 2008
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              #66
              Originally posted by tingkap View Post
              a) Can I produce a return ferry ticket (Batam-Singapore) instead of a flight tix to Jakarta?
              Any return/onward ticket would do (airlines/ferry), but I doubt that they bother to ask. As a Sosbud visa holder I had it requested by the Imigrasi quite a few time while entering Indonesia via Soekarno Hatta, but I never heard about anyone asking to produce a return/onward ticket for the conversion of an Izin kunjungan to an ITAS. Not bad to have it though in case someone ask it...
              Originally posted by tingkap View Post
              b) Any format needed for the Riwayat Hidup document or a translated CV would suffice?
              No specific format. Once again, though this one should be mandatory, it is not always requested. A simple Riwayat Hidup, with your details such as profession and education, mention of your wedding (dates, place)...etc. Keep it relevant to your request. No need need for much details, it is not an application for a KITAS tight to a work in Indonesia.
              Originally posted by tingkap View Post
              c) Anyone have experience dealing with the KanIM for Jakarta Pusat? - as my wife is staying at Jakarta Pusat...
              Jakartan KanIm are not known to be among the most difficult. You are too close to the central power for them to dare some real nasty work.

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              • atlantis
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                • Jul 2008
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                #67
                Originally posted by Tantori View Post
                Currently we both live in UK, got married 5 years ago, but not registered our marriage in Indonesia (Now I regretted). At the moment we are in stage where I sent my English Marriage Certificate to Indonesian Embassy in London to be translated to Indonesian Language and asked for legal stamp in order to register our marriage once we are in Indonesia for KITAS application purposes as I have been told from this forum (correct me if I am wrong please).
                You're correct. First step will be the registration of your marriage. Without it, you are officially not married in Indonesia... theefore you have no husband to sponsor.
                Originally posted by Tantori View Post
                My understanding is before 7 days visa sosbud expired, my husband need to submit application for extension visa so he will have plenty of time when his KITAS in process. But why he can only extend the visa every 30 days?
                Simply because it is the law. Extension for sosbud are granted for 30 days at a time. However, if you start the conversion of the sosbud to an ITAS immediately upon entering Indonesia, there is good chance that you need no extension (the initial 60 days given on a sosbud are enough to complete the whole procedure) or eventually 1 extension of the sosbud maximum.

                Originally posted by Tantori View Post
                How does it work along with KITAS application processing ? Will you be so kind to explain to me ?
                These are two independant procedure. Your husband will enter on a sosbud for 60 days. Immediately afer entering, start the procedure to convert is izin kunjungan (sosbud) in an ITAS. If the pocedure is completed in the delay of 60 days, no need to worry about the extension of the sosbud (the ITAS will replace the SosBud). If it isn't completed in the delay of 60 days, make sure you keep extending the SosBud untill your huband receive his KITAS. As soon as he receives it, th sosbud is terminated and you don't need to worry about it.

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                • Tantori
                  Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 110

                  #68
                  Originally posted by atlantis View Post
                  You're correct. First step will be the registration of your marriage. Without it, you are officially not married in Indonesia... theefore you have no husband to sponsor.
                  Thank you for your confirmation atlantis


                  Originally posted by atlantis View Post
                  These are two independant procedure. Your husband will enter on a sosbud for 60 days. Immediately afer entering, start the procedure to convert is izin kunjungan (sosbud) in an ITAS. If the pocedure is completed in the delay of 60 days, no need to worry about the extension of the sosbud (the ITAS will replace the SosBud).
                  OK, which mean as soon as he landed, the next day he can apply ITAS immediately

                  Originally posted by atlantis View Post
                  If it isn't completed in the delay of 60 days, make sure you keep extending the SosBud untill your huband receive his KITAS. As soon as he receives it, th sosbud is terminated and you don't need to worry about it.
                  I assumed my husband no need to submit his original passport since you said he will need to extend his visa if the process take more than 60 days while his ITAS in process.

                  merci beaucoup
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                  • atlantis
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                    • Jul 2008
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Tantori View Post
                    OK, which mean as soon as he landed, the next day he can apply ITAS immediately
                    Correct. They may tell you that he needs to "wait 4 months". This is wrong. The law article of law requesting to "wait for months" has been amended and the waiting period reduce to nil, meaning that you can start the procedure as soon as he arrives in Indonesia. If they insist on him waiting, I will forward you the relevant text of law.
                    Originally posted by Tantori View Post
                    I assumed my husband no need to submit his original passport since you said he will need to extend his visa if the process take more than 60 days while his ITAS in process.
                    He will need to show it when initiating the procedure, but they will give it back after having verify it. Same goes for all documents you will be requested to produce: KTAP, akta perkawinan...etc. All original documents must be shown.

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                    • Tantori
                      Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 110

                      #70
                      Originally posted by atlantis View Post
                      Correct. They may tell you that he needs to "wait 4 months". This is wrong. The law article of law requesting to "wait for months" has been amended and the waiting period reduce to nil, meaning that you can start the procedure as soon as he arrives in Indonesia. If they insist on him waiting, I will forward you the relevant text of law.
                      Noted, If no trouble, can you forward me the relevant text of law as soon as you have time.

                      Originally posted by atlantis View Post
                      He will need to show it when initiating the procedure, but they will give it back after having verify it. Same goes for all documents you will be requested to produce: KTAP, akta perkawinan...etc. All original documents must be shown.
                      Great ! thank you so much for all information atlantis.
                      I will keep you update and perhaps we might have additional information re process of My husband's KITAS for this forum.
                      [COLOR=black]Your greatness is measured by your gifts, not your possessions
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                      • tingkap
                        Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 126

                        #71
                        Thanks atlantis...

                        btw, just realise one thing.. my wife's KTP still states her as single but we are married here legally and got our buku nikah...

                        do we need to change the data on her KTP first before I start with the KITAS application? or with the buku nikah its more than suffice...



                        Originally posted by atlantis View Post
                        Any return/onward ticket would do (airlines/ferry), but I doubt that they bother to ask. As a Sosbud visa holder I had it requested by the Imigrasi quite a few time while entering Indonesia via Soekarno Hatta, but I never heard about anyone asking to produce a return/onward ticket for the conversion of an Izin kunjungan to an ITAS. Not bad to have it though in case someone ask it...

                        No specific format. Once again, though this one should be mandatory, it is not always requested. A simple Riwayat Hidup, with your details such as profession and education, mention of your wedding (dates, place)...etc. Keep it relevant to your request. No need need for much details, it is not an application for a KITAS tight to a work in Indonesia.

                        Jakartan KanIm are not known to be among the most difficult. You are too close to the central power for them to dare some real nasty work.

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                        • atlantis
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 16594

                          #72
                          Is there any competent petugas in your KanIm?

                          Originally posted by tingkap View Post
                          Thanks atlantis...

                          btw, just realise one thing.. my wife's KTP still states her as single but we are married here legally and got our buku nikah...

                          do we need to change the data on her KTP first before I start with the KITAS application? or with the buku nikah its more than suffice...
                          If the petugas imigrasi thoroughfully check the papers you guys hand him he may question it and it may result in a delay in the application. It is very difficult to gauge the probability that something like that happen. Competent, meticulous petugas imigrasi are a rare breed and you must be unlucky to bump on one. However, shit happens so I would advise you to have your wife's KTP changed. It would be too bad to waste time in the middle of the process just because of it.

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                          • umm.yasin
                            Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 23

                            #73
                            "Surat Kuasa Khusus"

                            [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]"9. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]You, or any relative (holding a "Surat Kuasa Khusus" from you), should pick the Keputusan DitJen directly from the Sub-Direktorat Alih Status Keimigrasian."

                            [/FONT][/COLOR]
                            [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]So anybody i would hand out an "surat kuasa khusus" from me should get it?
                            does this surat need a special form or does anybody could provide a sample of it how it should look like to work properly?[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]

                            how are the experiences here for that case that somebody else picks up the[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Keputusan DitJen. Did you call before, if its ready or how much estimated time does it take for the relative or friend to pick it up at the kantor?
                            DitJen can not send it back directly to my place via Tiki if i include the cash for it with all my papers???
                            ...just wonder how it works, cause of money and circumstances (with 3 kids, accomodationen, flights and everything) are a bit difficult and would be nice to avoid going to jakarta....

                            and another question concerning moving to indo soon: do i need my personal birth certificate somewhere in the process and would the international form be enough if so? just wonder if i should translate it into indonesian language while still in germany (would be easier here for me as overthere) ...


                            [/FONT][/COLOR]

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                            • tingkap
                              Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 126

                              #74
                              Hi Everyone,

                              I just want to share my recent experience at KanIm Jakarta Pusat this morning.

                              I was asked to produce the following:

                              1) Request letter from the wife to convert my Sosbud visa to KITAS
                              2) Wife KTP + copies
                              3) Wife KK + copies
                              4) My passport with copies of biodata page and Sosbud visa + entrance endorsements
                              5) Marriage cert (buku nikah) + copies

                              Anyone has a sample request letter for this purpose? Wish me luck guys... Its my 1st DIY KITAS... I will gather all the documents and be back there on Monday...

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                              • atlantis
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 16594

                                #75
                                I've quickly written you a simple one... Ask your wife to correct any possible grammatical mistake. Fill the blanks with your data.


                                Perihal: Permohonan alih status dari izin kunjungan menjadi izin tinggal terbatas a/n "Tingkap"



                                Dengan hormat,

                                Saya yang bertanda tangan di bawah ini:

                                Nama: Isteri Tingkap
                                Tempat/Tgl Lahir:
                                Pekerjaan
                                KTP Nomor:
                                Alamat:

                                Memohon kepada Bapak kepala imigrasi untuk dapat memberikan alih status dari izin kunjungan menjadi izin tinggal terbatas atas nama suami sah saya, adapun datanya sebagai berikut:

                                Nama: Tingkap
                                Tempat/Tgl Lahir:
                                Paspor Nomor:
                                Kebangsaan:
                                Alamat:


                                Demikian permohonan ini saya buat kiranya mendapat perhatian dari bapak kepala imigrasi di "kota tingkap" dan atas kerja sama yang baik saya pemohon mengucapkan banyak terima kasih.

                                Tanda tangan Isteri Tingkap

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