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  • john madden
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    • Sep 2008
    • 4857

    Originally posted by divineelite View Post
    I have the same doubt actually. Exactly how much minimum amount is required? My wife doesn't work currently so she has nothing in her account...
    Kanpie, divineelite - the common experience recently is that Imigrasi does not ask for such evidence. There is no stated minimum amount.

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    • atlantis
      Banned
      • Jul 2008
      • 16593

      I concur with JM. They may ask and assess if you have an income and how you intend to live in Indonesia. If you provide anything showing that you won't be a liability for Indonesia, they will skip the topic.
      When shyly asked I just had to say that I've got my own company in France and that so that my wife here in Indonesia and didn't have to submit any document for any of us. They were satisfied with the oral answer. I prepared tons of documents for nothing.
      At least I was prepared...

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      • atlantis
        Banned
        • Jul 2008
        • 16593

        Originally posted by divineelite View Post
        Completely ignored as always...
        Certainly because it has been answered countless time in threads in this forum.

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        • marcus
          Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 9247

          Originally posted by KanpieBatam View Post
          Regarding bank account funds for a Kitas extension:

          Is it a requirement to have a minimum amount in the bank account of the sponsor in the case of an Indonesian Wife sponsoring?
          Lately immigration has not been asking for financial evidence .
          If they ask , Rp30 million in your/her account/"deposito" are probably enough , and it is more probable to be asked for the original KITAS issuance . In my original KITAS process , immigration made a very deep check of the my , at that time , recent marriage process : interviewing the KUA officer , asking for an explanation letter from KUA , and asking for a copy of the "free to marry" document .
          For my KITAS extensions (last one very recently) , the processes have been very easy , with only a 2 minutes interview at the province's immigration office (Kantor Wilayah) and no unusual document requested .
          Last edited by marcus; 11-04-12, 16:12.

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          • KanpieBatam
            Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 38

            Originally posted by marcus View Post
            [COLOR=#333333]For my KITAS extensions (last one very recently) , the processes have been very easy , with only a 2 minutes interview at the province's immigration office (Kantor Wilayah) and no unusual document requested .[/COLOR]
            May I ask what KITAS I,II,III.. it was? My wife was told that KITAS I to II ext. "is always the toughest" according to some officer. They say it is because everything has to be checked and prepared when the time will come to convert KITAS II to KITAP. I don't know if that is B.S but it certainly quite hard to get. Any thoughts?

            Originally posted by john madden
            Kanpie, divineelite - the common experience recently is that Imigrasi does not ask for such evidence. There is no stated minimum amount.
            Thank you for the info John. I will do with what my wife currently have in her bank account (around 1 juta).

            Originally posted by atlantis
            Again I guess you understand why I said that you have to be involved. I have the utmost respect for my wife, but I know she could not stand her ground the way I do, even if she has education and own her own business, being thefore more used to tense negociations than the average indonesian woman.
            I understand what you mean. Again this morning my wife went alone and she didn't not stood her ground when the officer refused to give her a receipt. We had an argument about it. I wasn't there so I asked her when she came back. My wife says she felt ashamed because everybody was looking at her when the officer raised her voice, so she just paid, IDR 25,000 instead of IDR 20,000, without getting the receipt. I tried to make her understand that it's a good thing that she gives the example and stand her ground in front of other people, but she doesn't see it that way. It's seems like a cultural "no go" I would say.

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            • vanuatu
              Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 465

              Originally posted by KanpieBatam View Post
              My wife was told that KITAS I to II ext. "is always the toughest" according to some officer.
              Whichever one you are processing will be the "toughest" in the eyes of the official trying to get $ from you.

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              • marcus
                Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 9247

                Originally posted by KanpieBatam View Post
                May I ask what KITAS I,II,III.. it was? My wife was told that KITAS I to II ext. "is always the toughest" according to some officer. They say it is because everything has to be checked and prepared when the time will come to convert KITAS II to KITAP. I don't know if that is B.S but it certainly quite hard to get. Any thoughts? ....
                I got the original KITAS + first and second KITAS extensions .
                In terms of the process , these 2 extensions are the shortest , they don't need approval from the Direktorat Jenderal Imigrasi in Jakarta .

                I believe that immigration is still defining the internal procedures for their officers (due to the new UU6 - 2011) and so now , each immigration office has its own thinking about what should be required .

                As I told , I got the last extension recently and my immigration offices did not ask for : financial evidence , or registering my marriage at my Embassy , or registering my KUA marriage at Catatan Sipil .
                Immigration just asked me for the regular documents : passport , buku nikah , sponsor's KTP , KK , old KITAS/"blue book" , and sponsor letter .
                Last edited by marcus; 11-04-12, 15:39.

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                • KanpieBatam
                  Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 38

                  Originally posted by marcus View Post
                  In my original KITAS process , immigration made a very deep check of the my , at that time , recent marriage process ...
                  Did you had to register you marriage at Catatan Cipil for the original KITAS or KUA was enough? I'm asking that because for my first KITAS extension we are required to register our marriage @ Capil and KUA isn't enough.

                  Atlantis: it was reported that KanWil asked for marriage registration at CaPil a few time on this forum?

                  The whole thing that caused problem for us is that my wife's KTP was not updated and still showing the old address.
                  Last edited by KanpieBatam; 11-04-12, 21:04. Reason: shorten quote

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                  • Aris@Batam
                    Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 215

                    Kanpie,

                    I hope your wife is not same like my friend's wife (they bought a house recently) thinking of waiting for the free new e-KTP and change the address at the same time.
                    Cause they may not ready for the target implementation schedule for Batam. According to the Kepala Catatan Sipil when we chatting 2 week ago,... central only allocated
                    one set of machine for Batam including these small islands. They have a lot of questions on how to implement it. That including who provide training, people logistic and
                    transportation etc. Unlike the existing KTP. The implement of new e-KTP need the actual person come to the machine and scan their eyes. That is the issue for one machine
                    allocation.


                    There is some info during my trip of KITAS extension, I thought I was put in my update. I just search again, but I can not find it. Maybe I deleted or time out and re-log in
                    before I post the update.

                    Anyways...
                    When the time I submit the application for extension. I had been told by an officer that, recently there is high number of cases being on hold for investigation.

                    When we went to KanWil during my wife interview by the kepala KanWil... The head of KanWil are very friendly as my wife told me. Both of them chatting in Javanese.
                    He mention that, there is over 50 cases being on hold (when the time of our interview) recently due to suspicion of fake marriages. He take few examples and told my wife.
                    They are most questioning on the address they put in to applications. What he read the area are... as we know, those are red-light districts or hotel address.

                    The kepala KanWil are usually change every 2 years. So this one seems are more careful for data provided by applicants and doing his job. The list of documents need to be
                    checked which put under the table glass of lady officer in KanWil which we did not see that last year when they moved to this new building. Maybe also is he idea as like SOP.

                    PS:
                    Tell you wife, try to ask the phone nbr and name for these officer she had talk with. Just tell them in case of any questions she may have later or follow-up.
                    They will give her the numbers. Especially the one in KanWil name Tuty. Because I think, by asking the number and chatting, they will remember you and your wife next
                    time... and sometime they are very helpful too. Even you had it last year, ask again "did you change the nbr".

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                    • marcus
                      Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 9247

                      Originally posted by KanpieBatam View Post
                      Did you had to register you marriage at Catatan Cipil for the original KITAS or KUA was enough? ...
                      No . As I said , no Catatan Sipil and no Embassy registration .
                      Only the KUA's marriage was deeply checked by Kantor Wilayah , and only for the original KITAS approval . First and second KITAS extensions were very easy .

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                      • john madden
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 4857

                        KanIm Jember told me to bring both legalisir Buku Nikah and KK for my upcoming extension. I guess they want to see the KK with me and my wife on it. They didn't ask for KK first time around.

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                        • Aris@Batam
                          Member
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 215

                          I think what they mean is your wife KK. Which my wife need to provide the copy when every time extend my KITAS.
                          As according to the officer in Catatan Sipil, when I have the KITAP my name can be added to my wife KK.

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                          • KanpieBatam
                            Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 38

                            Thanks Aris. We appreciate.

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                            • mrcibubur
                              Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 1057

                              No hassle getting the Surat Keterangan from Kantor Urusan Agama, Kantor Lurah and Catatan Sipil, all done on the spot and at absolute minimum payment, my gesture of 10,000rp to the guy typing it up at each office, no more and no problem. thanks to the samples provided on this thread, i took two photos and they attached one to the Surat and kept the other on file i.e. photo of my wife and I together.

                              Also provided copy of my wifes KTP and KK which they asked for. Thankfully all in order because I have received my passport back from Uk and I can now submit my Kitas Extension with confidence on monday! I will not of course give KamIm or KanWil the new Surats unless asked for.
                              Last edited by mrcibubur; 13-04-12, 19:04. Reason: correction

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                              • KanpieBatam
                                Member
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 38

                                Originally posted by Aris@Batam View Post
                                Kanpie,

                                [COLOR=#333333]1. I hope your wife is not same like my friend's wife (they bought a house recently) thinking of waiting for the free new e-KTP and change the address at the same time[/COLOR]

                                2.
                                Tell you wife, try to ask the phone nbr and name for these officer she had talk with. J
                                1. Thanks for the tips and info Aris. My wife did not subscribe for the e-KTP, it must be a nightmare. There's definetely a big learning curve for such technology in here. It's not ready and risky. Avoid at all cost.

                                2. That's what my wife did. She keep in touch with the officer and it seems alright.

                                Originally posted by mrcibubur
                                [COLOR=#333333]No hassle getting the Surat Keterangan from Kantor Urusan Agama, Kantor Lurah and Catatan Sipil, all done on the spot and at absolute minimum payment, my gesture of 10,000rp to the guy typing it up at each office, no more and no problem. thanks to the samples provided on this thread, i took two photos and they attached one to the Surat and kept the other on file i.e. photo of my wife and I together. [/COLOR]

                                [COLOR=#333333]Also provided copy of my wifes KTP and KK which they asked for.[/COLOR]
                                We did the same here but we have top wait for my wife's KTP and KK as they weren't updated in time. We should be able to proceed my KITAS extension first week of May. Very sharp with the ending date of the original KITAS which is May 13th.

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