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  • Originally posted by marcus View Post
    One detail , don't wait it expires . You need to request the new KITAS at least one month before the old KITAS expires .
    Marcus, your inbox is full
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    • Hi Atlantis,
      Thank you very much for the dazzling information you have provided. I have been in Indonesia for 1 year now and was working as a Business Developer and finally opened my own business under my wife’s name. So now we went to the immigration to convert my Kitas and being sponsored by my wife who is Indonesian. Over there they have been making fun of her by saying “What is your husband going to do, look after kids at home, doing nothing……bla bla bla”. Well we did not mention about the company settled. And we do not want them to know as well.
      They kept my documents for 3 weeks and then the guy said it would be better to get an exit permit, exit the country and re enter again, thus just to reduce the complication and I know they are looking for bribes which I am not willing to give as the first time I made my kitas it cost me a lot, I have decided to go out the country and re enter again. So I am going to Malaysia and re enter as a social budaya, any clues or help you can offer me in this particular case would be very grateful. Will the embassy in KL ask for a return ticket to my original country for this type of visa and do you know what they requires for the sosbud(bank statement, anything else)
      Mate if you know anything that would help me, that would be wonderful.
      Thx mate…

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      • Originally posted by TheGodFather View Post
        Hi Atlantis,
        Thank you very much for the dazzling information you have provided. I have been in Indonesia for 1 year now and was working as a Business Developer and finally opened my own business under my wife’s name. So now we went to the immigration to convert my Kitas and being sponsored by my wife who is Indonesian. Over there they have been making fun of her by saying “What is your husband going to do, look after kids at home, doing nothing……bla bla bla”. Well we did not mention about the company settled. And we do not want them to know as well.
        They kept my documents for 3 weeks and then the guy said it would be better to get an exit permit, exit the country and re enter again, thus just to reduce the complication and I know they are looking for bribes which I am not willing to give as the first time I made my kitas it cost me a lot, I have decided to go out the country and re enter again. So I am going to Malaysia and re enter as a social budaya, any clues or help you can offer me in this particular case would be very grateful. Will the embassy in KL ask for a return ticket to my original country for this type of visa and do you know what they requires for the sosbud(bank statement, anything else)
        Mate if you know anything that would help me, that would be wonderful.
        Thx mate…
        Hi Godfather, there are many threads relating to SosBud's on the forum, type sosbud in the search box at the top right hand side of this page. Here is one relating to KL http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...ghlight=sosbud

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        • Thx Sky Garden

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          • [QUOTE=TheGodFather;143238]Hi Atlantis,
            Thank you very much for the dazzling information you have provided. I have been in Indonesia for 1 year now and was working as a Business Developer and finally opened my own business under my wife’s name. So now we went to the immigration to convert my Kitas and being sponsored by my wife who is Indonesian. Over there they have been making fun of her by saying “What is your husband going to do, look after kids at home, doing nothing……bla bla bla”. Well we did not mention about the company settled. And we do not want them to know as well.QUOTE]

            Clarificatin on your inquiry: Were you previously sponsored by a company and received a KITAS with a working permit, and now you are seeking to convert to a spouse sponsored KITAS?

            Have you considered to have the business opened under your wife's name sponsor you for a KITAS & working permit? If yes, please share any experiences with that process at this thread:

            http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...plus-Visas-etc.
            [COLOR=#0000ff]"The earth is one country and mankind its citizens."
            What if we begin to view each other as part of one human family?[/COLOR]

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            • Originally posted by TheGodFather View Post
              ...Will the embassy in KL ask for a return ticket to my original country for this type of visa and do you know what they requires for the sosbud(bank statement, anything else)...
              In addition to the above reference provided by Sky Garden ,
              A return ticket or a ticket for going out of Indonesia may be required (at the Embassy or at the Indonesian airport) . See comments about :
              http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...y-ticket/page2
              http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...12650-Question ,ticket
              http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...ne-way-flights , outward ticket

              A bank statement is not required , but I always carried one with me as I didn't had the above referred ticket .
              As recommended before by Atlantis , it is good to carry copies of any document that can be used in your favor , like : marriage document , wife's Kartu Keluarga , Indonesian bank statement , house rent contract ,...

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              • Originally posted by marcus View Post
                As recommended before by Atlantis , it is good to carry copies of any document that can be used in your favor , like : marriage document , wife's Kartu Keluarga , Indonesian bank statement , house rent contract ,...
                Especially since the recent declarations from Patrialis Akbar. The Kasi Statuskim in Manado almost caught me by surprise not long ago. Maybe in an attempt to ask for money (the guy has freshly been nominated and we haven't met yet) he has asked me... the copy of my marriage registration to the french embassy. I married in Manado and, as per french law I had to register my marriage to the french embassy in order to have a french family book issued. This document has absolutely no legal value in Indonesia and is obviously not mandatory for a KITAS extension but the guy asked it to join to my file. I happened to have it with me (I always make a special folder when I go to imigrasi where I put it, along with bank statements, NPWP or any document that could be of a remote interest to a bored Imigrasi officer trying his luck). I don't want to argue in such cases, nor I want to waste any time. I just flash the document and do a return trip to the nearest canon copy machine. Funnily enough, when I went later to the kanwil to get the surat persetujuan, the Kepala divisi keimigrasian asked to talk to me. We know each other. He was puzzled by the document and ask me: "Pak Oliver, you know the law and the procedure, so why did you join this document to your files? What is it!?" I had to explain him that though I knew it wasn't necessary, it was requested for unknown and unexplained reasons... Dunno if he later had a chat with the kasi but when I later meet with the kasi for the final steps of my extension he was trying his best to avoid talking with me.
                Last edited by atlantis; 28-02-11, 13:33.

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                • Originally Posted by marcus
                  As recommended before by Atlantis , it is good to carry copies of any document that can be used in your favor , like : marriage document , wife's Kartu Keluarga , Indonesian bank statement , house rent contract ,...

                  I too like to have extra copies of documents available just in case . For example ; after having immigrassi handing back the photocopy of my buku nikkah and saying it wasnt required for the last 3 visa renewals , the 4th renewal they insisted on it (as I had left it out this time ) ...., but no problem, I had the photcopy , and the original buku nikkah with me to back it up . There was an odd moment of silence when I produced it .
                  Also in another post I wrote about the wife being interogated at the counter for ages being asked all sorts of silly questions , and agents being refused service during the same day due to a crackdown . 5 days later when I went to pay for the visa it was business as usual lol .

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                  • Totally agree with the last 3 posts.
                    No matter the law or procedure, Indonesian bureaucrats offer differing rules and regulations.
                    I find it best to have 3-4 times the minimum requirements in terms of paperwork...are you listening Bill Gates???
                    Perhaps those B's have relatives in the paper and pulp industry, or the data paper archive storage business.

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                    • I was working with a Working Kitas sponsored by the company, now the immigration is messing about and even trying there luck of juicing out anything from me, by saying there are some illegal documents we might probably deport you bla bla bla.... Gosh I am tired of these things.

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                      • Hasn't this process been simplified?

                        Atlantis
                        The process you describe is not simple, and could be accepted only by those (of us) who have learned to accept the absurd procedures in RI.
                        Has Immigrasi made no progress in simplifying the procedure?
                        Living here on the S-B visa is like living as a prisoner on parole. You can't get a drivers license and your passport is in the custody of Immigration half of the time.

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                        • Originally posted by skeptik2 View Post
                          Atlantis
                          The process you describe is not simple, and could be accepted only by those (of us) who have learned to accept the absurd procedures in RI.
                          Has Immigrasi made no progress in simplifying the procedure?
                          Living here on the S-B visa is like living as a prisoner on parole. You can't get a drivers license and your passport is in the custody of Immigration half of the time.
                          With respect...Atlantis is a volunteer on this Forum.... but I'm sure he would agree with your point, and will post when available.

                          I suggest, like myself, we use every other avenue available to progress law to enable reform.

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                          • Just do not forget: you live here as a guest. If you want to change your citizenship everything would be easier. Do you want this? If the answer is NO, then live with the system, YOU can not change. And we should not generalize. Just read my experience with immigration here in Bali: http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...on-office.html
                            And always ask yourself: "How do they treat foreigners in my home country?"

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                            • Posted by Skeptik2 :
                              [The process you describe is not simple, and could be accepted only by those (of us) who have learned to accept the absurd procedures in RI.
                              Has Immigrasi made no progress in simplifying the procedure?
                              Living here on the S-B visa is like living as a prisoner on parole. You can't get a drivers license and your passport is in the custody of Immigration half of the time.]
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                              1) The process is very bureaucratic , but you have the option to pay an agent to do it for you . An agent will charge you about Rp4 Juta (official fees included , I suppose) or about USD470 , or just about USD40 per month .
                              If you still think it is expensive , train any unemployed Indonesian to do most of the agent work , so you can save maybe half of that .
                              See below ref. of agents .

                              2) According Atlantis , very soon the immigration offices (local , regional , and the Jakarta one) will send documents to each other on-line , making the process a lot easier .

                              3) I used sosbud (is what you mean by S-B , right?) during about 7 years and it was not such a big issue . If you don't like to wait at the immigration , just go to a shopping center nearby or come back other day , or ask somebody to do it for you .
                              For a 30 days extension the passport is kept at the immigration office for about a week , or less than 25% of the time . And with their extension request's receipt and a copy of your passport , you legally don't need the passport itself . Anyway , I never carry my passport , but only the photocopy.
                              You can drive with an international driver license . I would hire a driver , instead , if I had a car .

                              http://www.mpp-travel.com/ (Rp3,5 J , but no SKLD , SKTT)
                              http://www.produkdalamnegeri.com/pt.php?id=275&lang=en (KITAS/work permit forRp3,9J)
                              http://www.balimode-biz.com/temporary_visa.php (Rp4 J for KITAS)
                              http://www.pondok-citra.com/jasa-adm...asi-tkwna.html
                              http://www.concordservices-bali.com/price_list.php
                              http://rcs.co.id/
                              http://www.pondok-citra.com/jasa-adm...asi-tkwna.html
                              http://ina.or.id/inaweb/index.php?p=69&lang=eng
                              http://www.baliline.com/services/
                              http://www.bali-expat-business.com/
                              http://www.tdstour.co.id/index.php/kitas
                              http://okusi.net/WhatWeDo.php
                              http://www.rami-services.com/home.html
                              http://www.binka.co.id/services-foreign_investment.htm
                              http://www.saranaijin.com/services/u...tas/index.html
                              http://www.dutapramantara.indonetwork.co.id/
                              http://www.jbs.co.id/
                              http://www.widyawiratama.co.id/category/services/
                              http://www.izinperusahaan.com/ptka.html
                              Last edited by marcus; 29-03-11, 21:05.

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                              • Originally posted by marcus View Post
                                2) According Atlantis , very soon the immigration offices (local , regional , and the Jakarta one) will send documents to each other on-line , making the process a lot easier .
                                I think that I wrote "soon" (with the quotes). It was a bit sarcastic of me. There is a plan for it to happen, but like many other things in Indonesia, it sometimes requires more time than expected. DitJenIm, KanIm and KanWil already communicate electronically through the immigration software but there will have a bit of waiting before that all documents transit electronically. The will however is what counts...

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