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Originally posted by beebop View PostI guess you mean to say if i cant get a KITAP i should remain on a KITAS and then become a citizen.
Originally posted by beebop View PostHmmm.. Is it possible to become a citizen before having to restart the kitas cycle? Renew 5 times means 6 years rite? And its possible to become a citizen once living in indonesia for 5 uninterupted years.
Beebop, I'd like to give you what is possibly the best advise I could give you: don't stress, don't panic, don't show emotions, don't rush when dealing with any administration in Indonesia. Document yourself and stay tuned about any change. When you start a procedure, never show that you are desesperate about it and never show that you have a deadline to obtain it. Stay on the ball and always apply softly pressure. When you have a problem, don't shout, just talk. If it ain't enough, write.
With this simple method above I went through countless procedures involving Imigrasi, Polisi, Kantor Pajak, KanWil, BPN, Depnaker, CaPil, kantor Tata, Jasa Raharja...etc without much troubles.
Originally posted by beebop View PostI suppose becomming a citizen gonna require fat bank accounts too anyway.
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Originally posted by travellingchez View PostCan you become a citizen after having a KITAS sponsored by work after 5 years instead of being sponsored by your spouse on a KITAS?
The case of the user who has contacted me is indeed very interesting and I am eager to "work" on it, if he decides to push it forward, by explaining him why they are wrong in their interpretation of the law and to explain him how to deal with legal problem.
As I said, the citizenship act is still too new and many low ranking PNS are absolutely unaware of its many stipulations. The pejabat at the top are too busy milking money to bother to educate their subordinates. Do the job for them: educate yourself in order to be able to fill the gap and have your rights respected.
Things however are improving. I remenber the time, not long ago, when organizing yourself a KITAS was seen as merely impossible by many. Nowadays, though not yet fluid, it is way, way easier. I predict that KITAPs and citizenship application, in less than 5 years, will be as easy to get than a KITAS now. The effort of all in limitating the agent phenomena will help to clarify and ease the procedures. The systematic use of middlemen contributes to develop and maintain corruption. That is one of the reasons why I have never used any and participate in this forum. That's a chance for me to share the knowledge I've acquired.
Well, I hope the above is clear enough, but if it isn't, feel free to add more questions.Last edited by atlantis; 27-01-11, 08:06.
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Originally posted by beebop View PostNo you cant become a citizen via working visa.
A word of wisdom: if you are in this case, the first step of the application starts at your bank.... The recognition of your participation to the national development in a significant manner has a price tag.
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Originally posted by Dr. Michael Beer View PostMy experience for the extension KITAS sponsored by istri WNI was published the following link.
I really do encourage my expat friends not to give up. There are still honest civil servants around.
To feed agents (who sometimes do not serve well anyway) with millions is certainly not the way.
Another story was the SKLD in Denpasar. They were asking immediately 350K, but after my brave wife asked for kwitansi, it came immediately down to 100K.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...on-office.htmlOvercoming poverty is no a gesture of charity is an act of justice the protection of a fundamental human right to dignity..
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Thanks for that Atlantis. At least I know that it is a possible (although difficult) option for the future if I choose to become WNI. I'd be interested to hear the outcome of the guy PMing you. If one can do it then hopefully others can follow suit with more ease.The challenge is to be yourself in a world that is trying to make you like everyone else.
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Originally posted by travellingchez View PostThanks for that Atlantis. At least I know that it is a possible (although difficult) option for the future if I choose to become WNI. I'd be interested to hear the outcome of the guy PMing you. If one can do it then hopefully others can follow suit with more ease.
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by Dr. Michael Beer:...They were asking immediately 350K, but after my brave wife asked for kwitansi, it came immediately down to 100K.]
Originally posted by Shinta View PostI am just curious, and after you pay 100.000 Rp you get the akwtansi or not? you have to pay really?Last edited by marcus; 27-01-11, 20:54.
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Originally posted by atlantis View PostThe case of the user who has contacted me is indeed very interesting and I am eager to "work" on it, if he decides to push it forward, by explaining him why they are wrong in their interpretation of the law and to explain him how to deal with legal problem.
Originally posted by atlantis View PostThe naturalization process should take less than 6 months if all the papers submitted by the applicant are complete and in order. At each step, the parties involved (ie kanim, kanwil, depkumham) have a deadline to provide an answer.
Originally posted by atlantis View PostOriginally Posted by beebop: 'I suppose becomming a citizen gonna require fat bank accounts too anyway.'
No. Not anymore, at least for those who are married to an indonesian citizen. It requires a proof of income. If your wife (or any friend) has created a business, ask her/him to draft a working contract stipulating that you will be hired as soon as you become a citizen.
However it may be harder than im hoping it to be. Check the link from the jakarta post this morning.
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Originally posted by beebop View PostIf i want to become a citizen during my 6th year (after 5th and final kitas by wife extension), is that unusal to warrent a little help from you?
Originally posted by beebop View PostHowever it may be harder than im hoping it to be. Check the link from the jakarta post this morning.
https://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home...warpath/419284
This particular articlle is being discussed here also in the forum.
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Hey guys..
I've been reading the forum about KITAS and getting more and more confused. Actually in my case, my husband's KITAS now is on his employment. However now he wants to change it (alih status) on to my (the wife) sponsorship. According to a few posts in this forum, I need to have certain amount of money stored in bank to apply for that Kitas; starting from 2,5mil income per mth. Is that true? Since I asked to Dirjen Imigrasi the other day and they didn't require any kind of bank statement or letter to proof my financial capacity. I actually just registered a company under my name but since it's new, it hasn't had any profit or any other financial activity. Another thing, is it really okay to just apply on my own without going through agent for kitas extension, keeping in mind that immigration would just "juice" more money or time from me along the process? Please advice asap.
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1) Some immigration officers ask for bank account statements and others don't . You can see , below , my case and others who got the KITAS without showing any bank account .
2) In many cases you may face officers asking for some extra money , but reading all the successful examples and all the related government regulations , you really don't need to pay anything extra , except for the folder(s) . At the immigration , always pay at the cashier counter and get , normally , a detailed computer printed receipt (name , type of service , value , ..).
http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...2841#post72841 , posts 246 , 247
http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...s-in-real-time...Last edited by marcus; 29-01-11, 12:02.
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If my husband's KITAS (working based) expires and he wants to convert it to my sponsorship, does he really need to go out of the country first then come back on a Sosbud then the rest of the process? Or maybe there's any other way to do it?
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Originally posted by blu3angel View PostIf my husband's KITAS (working based) expires and he wants to convert it to my sponsorship, does he really need to go out of the country first then come back on a Sosbud then the rest of the process? Or maybe there's any other way to do it?
Thanks
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