KITAS sponsored by the Indonesian spouse

[Dr. Michael Beer]

Please, Link

Thanks a lot Markus. As I am hopeless in finding on the Imigrasi Website those formulir, could you please post a link. Thanks a lot and all the best.

[marcus]

I forgot to tell that if you go directly to www.imigrasi.go.id , it is difficult to find anything there . Instead I used Google (set it to Indonesian) , search for "imigrasi Perdim" .
But as I told , they are specific to Australians ( students coming to work here) . I think those "Perdim"s are there only because they are recently issued and not distributed to local immigration offices yet .

[Dr. Michael Beer]

Thanks a lot Markus again. Will just get some sets of the Perdims. What a shame for an official website!

[Noorml]

thanks Marcus

Thanks alot again marcus
and i read at the www.expat.or.id that

" The sponsor “buys” the needed forms (IDR 10K to IDR 25K) and fills out a written demand. A “Riwayat Hidup” of the foreigner, and a bank statement showing that the couple has enough funds to live for one full year in Indonesia should be attached"

What i want to ask that : how much amount required in the bank statement?
is there any"ketentuan" from goverment about the balance amount stated?
Thank you marcus

[marcus]

1) Immigration offices at my city are not charging for the forms like they illegally did before . But now they ask us to buy the folder at their "authorized store" . A "curriculum vitae"/ "R. Hidup" and bank statement may be requested , but lately posters have said they didn't have to provide them . If required , bank account with more than Rp30 Juta should be ok for a one year KITAS , according Atlantis (see reference below , post no.4) .

http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.org/showthread.php/1146-KITAS-sponsored-by-an-Indonesian-wife-of-a-foreign-husband

[foreign]

Hello to all,
I am new here, (found this interesting forum in the internet).
Would like to ask if I correctly understand the steps for marriage and residence in Indo without sponsor by company:
– social visa (about marriage)
– marriage in Indo
– 4 months waiting time
– apply for KITA (account bank, fee IDR 700.000, curriculum cv)
– 1 year KITA (no right to work)
– every 12 months pay tax (zero- because no work in Indo)
– after 5 years get Indo nationality or something like this .

Some questions I have also:
Can the foreigner after 5 years and with “Indo nationality” free work and take all jobs?
4 months waiting time: must the foreigner leave Indonesia after marriage or can apply in Indo for a KITA?
Is there the KITA every year new for all the future? (in case no nationality).
Must the foreigner leave Indonesia to apply for the next KITA or can apply in Indo?
1 year KITA– no work in Indo: Can the wife or the foreigner open a small business in Indo like all Indonesians (the shop on the corner, from textiles to reparation)?
With all the effort are the Indonesian women tolerant or want divorce after a while?

Would be nice if you can answer the questions.

[marcus]

I believe you didn't read all the thread . The procedures/required documents may have small changes , depending on the officer you deal with , the city ,..
1) If you become an Indonesian , I think you can do everything any Indonesian can .
2) If you have a social visa , after marrying an Indonesian , you don't need to leave Indonesia to get the KITAS , and you don't need to wait 4 months ( although sometimes some immigration officers will tell you the contrary ) . See some examples below :

http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.org/showthread.php/1146-KITAS-sponsored-by-an-Indonesian-wife-of-a-foreign-husband.?p=72841#post72841

http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...s-in-real-time...
3) Every year , up to 5 times , you can renew the KITAS without leaving Indonesia . Supposing you got one year KITAS for the first 2 years , during/after your third KITAS you have the option to get a KITAP (5 years visa) .
4) The restriction of this kind of KITAS is that the foreigner cannot work . You or your wife can open business .
5) Each person , anywhere in the world , has unique personality . Many Indonesian may have some common characteristics , but I don't think you can predict a divorce .
If it helps , a 2007's information (see below) says there were 200 thousands divorces per year in Indonesia . It should take in consideration that it is also relatively common the non official marriage in Indonesia named "nikah siri" and many couples just separate without a divorce .

http://www.nowpublic.com/life/divorce-rate-indonesia-highest-asia-pacific

[foreign]

Thank you for your information.
I will try to find more infos about small business in the forum.

[cellito]

Hello all

I have a question - ive had a KITAS through my job for the past 4 years, just got married to an Indonesian woman this past February..

My KITAS expires in one month and I want to renew but convert to a spouse sponsored or "family kitas"

Since I already had a KITAS for a few years, will this process be easier -- or is it like starting out from scratch?

Also any agents in Bali anyone recommends?

Thanks!

[atlantis]

Hello all

I have a question - ive had a KITAS through my job for the past 4 years, just got married to an Indonesian woman this past February..

My KITAS expires in one month and I want to renew but convert to a spouse sponsored or "family kitas"

Since I already had a KITAS for a few years, will this process be easier -- or is it like starting out from scratch?

Also any agents in Bali anyone recommends?

Thanks!

Be aware that with a KITAS sponsored by your wife you won't be allowed to work in any way. Is that your goal?

[cellito]

Thanks for the quick reply Atlantis..

We have a small business - a restaurant which is under her name ( it is a UD) and Im not planning to 'work' there.. Although it is our main source of income..

Basically im trying to avoid the USD $1200 fee for a business KITAS..

[atlantis]

Thanks for the quick reply Atlantis..

We have a small business - a restaurant which is under her name ( it is a UD) and Im not planning to 'work' there.. Although it is our main source of income..

Basically im trying to avoid the USD $1200 fee for a business KITAS..

The Imigrasi may not like it and give you some hard time.
However you can try to apply for a "change of sponsor" procedure. Though it would highlight the connection which exists in between former and new sponsor (I assume that your wife is the owner of the business) it would avoid you to leave Indonesia. Alternatively you can follow the procedure explained at post #1 which would allow you not to be on the spotlight compared to the "change of sponsor". It would require that you make an EPO and start from the beginning.

[cellito]

The Imigrasi may not like it and give you some hard time.
However you can try to apply for a "change of sponsor" procedure. Though it would highlight the connection which exists in between former and new sponsor (I assume that your wife is the owner of the business) it would avoid you to leave Indonesia. Alternatively you can follow the procedure explained at post #1 which would allow you not to be on the spotlight compared to the "change of sponsor". It would require that you make an EPO and start from the beginning.

Actually my prior KITAS was through a totally separate company.. but i see how imigrasi may want to give me a hard time..

Sorry for my ignorance but what is an EPO?

thanks

[atlantis]

Actually my prior KITAS was through a totally separate company.. but i see how imigrasi may want to give me a hard time..

Sorry for my ignorance but what is an EPO?

thanks

Sorry for me using acronyms. Lazyness.
EPO means Exit Permit Only. This is the procedure to terminate your KITAS. It has to be requested by your actual sponsor and you will be asked to end your KITAS, Buku POA and passport for it to be stamped with a (usually) 15 days to leave stamp. No cost.

[Dr. Michael Beer]

Experience with Immigration Amlapura, Bali

My experience for the extension KITAS sponsored by istri WNI was published the following link.
I really do encourage my expat friends not to give up. There are still honest civil servants around.
To feed agents (who sometimes do not serve well anyway) with millions is certainly not the way.
Another story was the SKLD in Denpasar. They were asking immediately 350K, but after my brave wife asked for kwitansi, it came immediately down to 100K.

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2011/01/07/letter-good-service-immigration-office.html