KITAS sponsored by the Indonesian spouse

[MadCat]

Ok, question: I'm about to convert my SosBud over to a wife-sponsored KITAS, and I'm not sure what I should do first; my SosBud has been extended once, and is in need of another extension in about 8 days. Should I do the extension first, then start the KITAS procedure, or start the KITAS procedure right away? Since they will take my passport, I assume it means that during the procedure I'm still "legal"?

[atlantis]

You can do both in the same time. Start the extension and the conversion of your izin kunjungan in an ITAS. They may tell you that you can't convert it and that you have to exit the country to get a VITAS or that you must wait for 4 months before converting it...etc All of these excuses are just their ignorance and misunderstanding of the law. If you have trouble, post here and I'll get the reference of law that you have to show them to run smoothly the procedure.
They won't take your passport during the procedure. They will require to see the original but only need copies for the file to be sent in the KanWil and DitJenIm. As long as you start the procedure for the extension of your izin kunjungan you are legit.

[MadCat]

Ah okay, last time I did the sosbud extension they kept my passport, that's why Since I'll be doing this in Jakarta, they might actually not give me any trouble, last time I went by myself to get the extension done, and I had no problems whatsoever there, no request for uang rokok, but instead rather helpful staff.

Will throw a post in here later to relate my experiences

[marcus]

As some immigration officers apply procedures with small deviations , I would first get the extension with some time in advance , and as soon as the extension is ready , apply for the KITAS . This because :
1) In my city , the chief of the KITAS section told me I could not apply for 2 process simultaneously , and
2) During my KITAS process the immigration officer requested my passport and kept it until the end of the process .

[ishwor]

hi

hi ashayu ....
warm greeting from dubai.
wowwwwwwwwwwww i read do many mails,i was totally disappointed with the officer behaviours.but after i read your post i hope i can get KITAS so easily as u mentioned.
actually i have very lovely wife in bali.i have been their a few times in tourist visa,i have legal married certificate also from bali,last 5 month back i try to apply for KITAS.but suddendly i need to left bali because of my job posting in dubai.now i am totally lost.i do not know what to do.in this case how can i apply KITAS from dubai,can my wife process from bali or she has to apply from jakarta?I heard it can be done from bali imigrasi?please tolong saya.............
hope to get your reply soon
thanks


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[marcus]

I believe Atlantis already told here that it is easier to first come in Indonesia with a social cultural visa and then convert it to KITAS . But you also have the option to ask your wife to start , probably in Bali first and later in Jakarta , a VITAS process which will later be converted in KITAS as soon as you enter Indonesia .

[martin]

[QUOTE=atlantis;9774][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Note the following[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]:[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]- A KITAS as described above, sponsored by an Indonesian wife, [FONT=Verdana]doesn't allow any kind of work[/FONT].}}[/FONT][/COLOR]


Sponsored by Indonesian Wife a foreig Hubby can stay in the country for 5 years (with yearly renewals) and eat on wife's money and not allowed to work or start his own work/company

Wonder why
Strange

[atlantis]

Sponsored by Indonesian Wife a foreig Hubby can stay in the country for 5 years (with yearly renewals) and eat on wife's money and not allowed to work or start his own work/company
Wonder why

That is to free us males from the stress of having to provide and be the breadwinner. I follow the therapy and have only good thing to say about it.

[martin]

I wonder why Law allows an indonesian Girl to get married to indonesian girl at first instance ..when latter the law prohibits the foreign husband to work or establish a company after getting married.

[atlantis]

I wonder why Law allows an indonesian Girl to get married to indonesian girl at first instance ..

Huh?

when latter the law prohibits the foreign husband to work or establish a company after getting married.

The law doesn't prohibits the foreign husband to work. He can do so as long as he is sponsored by an indonesian company. And the law doesn't forbid either to establish a company. It is called a PT PMA if there is any foreign capital in it.

[martin]

Is a foreigner allowed to establish a company in indonesia(without getting married to indonesian girl)
is the capital required here is same as is required from foreigner married to indonesian girl who also wishes to establish a company in indonesia ???

[atlantis]

Is a foreigner allowed to establish a company in indonesia(without getting married to indonesian girl)
is the capital required here is same as is required from foreigner married to indonesian girl who also wishes to establish a company in indonesia ???

Yes for both questions.
Though I would need further elaboration for your second question to make sure that we speak about the exact same thing. However, if you want to ask further questions about establishing company I would kindly ask you to do so in a seperate thread.

[martin]

[QUOTE=atlantis;9658][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]THIS POST HAS BEEN UPDATED IN APRIL 2009 AND JUNE 2010[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]18[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]. The foreigner has to go to his Kantor Lurah to get a Surat keterengan domisili stating his formal address in Indonesia and he should bring this letter to his Catatan Sipil to get a SKTT (Surat Keterangan Tempat Tinggal), a SKPPS (surat keterengan pendaftaran penduduk sementara) and a SKDLN (Surat Keterengan Datang dari Luar Negeri). A foreigner staying on a KITAS MUST register at the Capil for the above documents. It will help smothen a KITAP procedure later. In fact, chances are that the CaPil compil the three documents and issue a nice greenish card attesting your residency and registration as a temporary resident for the length of the KITAS. Fees for it are defined by Peraturan Daerah and varies depending on each kota/kabupaten. It shouldn't cost more than IDR 150K.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Be careful you have 14 days to do so after the date of issuance of the KITAS (Pasal 20, undang undang 23 tahun 2006 tentang Administrasi Kependudukan) to register. Failure to do so in time would expose you to a fine of a maximum of IDR 2.000K (Pasal 89, undang undang 23 tahun 2006 tentang Administrasi Kependudukan).[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]19[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]. Your next move will be to go to the Departemen Pajak to get a NPWP, the husband's personal tax number... [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]* amended article in 2005. It reduces to nil the "waiting period" of 4 months previously mandatory before initiating the procedure.[/FONT][/COLOR]


Well i would like to first thank Mr Atlantis for the valuable information
fr two years i am follwing the above 17 steps as im a kitas holder but i never complete the 18 and 19 steps coz noen of the authority in immigration told me to go to these kantors Kantor Lurah to get a Surat keterengan domisili and Departemen Pajak to get a NPWP

IS it necessary to go to get that Surat keterengan domisili ??????? imigrasi never asked me to go to that kantor

[marcus]

Martin , I copy below a post about this subject . What I understood is that the whole item 18 is to comply with an Indonesian law ( penalty of Rp2 J if not complied) . I believe that immigration officers didn't tell you to do that because this is a subject of a different government office and communication between government offices is not very good ( by the way , it is like that in my country also ) . Getting the NPWP was more to avoid the "Fiskal"/exit tax of Rp2.5 Juta .

Posted by Atlantis , in this thread , post no. 104 :
[...The article 89 of the Undang-Undang nomor 23 tahun 2006 stipulates that the fine is of a maximum of IDR 2.000.000 for a foreigner. Here is the correct article:

[FONT=Arial]Pasal 89[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial](1) Setiap Penduduk dikenai sanksi administratif berupa denda apabila melampaui batas waktu [/FONT][FONT=Arial]pelaporan Peristiwa Kependudukan dalam hal:[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]a. pindah datang bagi Orang Asing yang memiliki Izin Tinggal Terbatas atau Orang Asing yang [/FONT][FONT=Arial]memiliki Izin Tinggal Tetap sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 17 ayat (3);[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]b. pindah datang ke luar negeri bagi Penduduk Warga Negara Indonesia sebagaimana dimaksud [/FONT][FONT=Arial]dalam Pasal 18 ayat (3);[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]c. pindah datang dari luar negeri bagi Penduduk Warga Negara Indonesia sebagaimana dimaksud [/FONT][FONT=Arial]dalam Pasal 19 ayat (1);[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]d. pindah datang dari luar negeri bagi Orang Asing yang memiliki Izin Tinggal Terbatas [/FONT][FONT=Arial]sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 20 ayat (1):[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]e. perubahan status Orang Asing yang memiliki Izin Tinggal Terbatas menjadi Orang Asing yang [/FONT][FONT=Arial]memiliki Izin Tinggal Tetap sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 21 ayat (1);[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]f. pindah ke luar negeri bagi Orang Asing yang memiliki Izin Tinggal Terbatas atau Orang Asing [/FONT][FONT=Arial]yang memiliki Izin Tinggal Tetap sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 22 ayat (1);[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]g. perubahan KK sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 62 ayat (2): atau[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]h. perpanjangan KTP sebagaimana dimaksud dalam Pasal 63 ayat (4).[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial](2) Denda administratif sebagaimana dimaksud pada ayat (1) terhadap Penduduk Warga Negara [/FONT][FONT=Arial]Indonesia paling banyak Rp.1.000.000.00 (satu juta rupiah) dan Penduduk Orang Asing paling [/FONT][FONT=Arial]banyak Rp.2.000.000,00 (dua juta rupiah).[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial](3) Ketentuan lebih lanjut mengenai penetapan Benda administratif sebagaimana dimaksud pada ayat [/FONT][FONT=Arial](2) diatur dalam Peraturan Presiden .[/FONT]]

[atlantis]

Marcus... You are an asset for this forum. Dunno if I said it to you already but you are an incredible researcher of the archives of this forum! You save me a LOT of time. Thank you for that and all the effort you are doing.