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  • DanInAceh
    Member
    • May 2012
    • 3049

    #31
    As salaamu alaikum akhi

    I'm very happy to see that you've had some success and that you've married an Acehnese lady! I live in Aceh and I'm an American married to an Acehnese lady. I

    Also, you are right about looking Acehnese.

    Take care and good luck in your future with your wife! Please, come back to Aceh some time!

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    • Akram
      Member
      • May 2011
      • 35

      #32
      Originally posted by jim69 View Post
      A pre-nup is essential if you or your wife ever want to own land or property in Indonesia. There is no way of doing this after you are married, soif it was not done then it is too late unfortunatly.
      Originally posted by kim& mika View Post
      The only way around it is to divorce your wife, create a prenup and marry her again.
      Thank you for supporting (jim69 & kim& mika) and I do appreciated it but really don’t understand about pre-nup this much important???

      The ONLY WAY mention above (divorce wife n create a pre-nup first) should call B**S** (maaf)as we can’t go for this but what I do look in IMPOSSIBLE (I M POSSIBLE).

      Money is making way in Asian countries and this is my personal experience lots of times... What about yours?

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      • jim69
        Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 2285

        #33
        If you dont want to live in Indonesia then its not a problem, if you do and want to own property a pre - nup is essential. Money will not help. Just search on here, you will find all the information.
        [COLOR=#ff0000]Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds[/COLOR]. Albert Einstein

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        • Akram
          Member
          • May 2011
          • 35

          #34
          Originally posted by DanInAceh View Post
          As salaamu alaikum akhi

          I'm very happy to see that you've had some success and that you've married an Acehnese lady! I live in Aceh and I'm an American married to an Acehnese lady. I

          Also, you are right about looking Acehnese.

          Take care and good luck in your future with your wife! Please, come back to Aceh some time!
          Wa alaikum assalam wa rahmatu Allah wa barakatuh

          I’m glad to meet you and thank you very much for your greeting.

          Ohh from Banda Aceh...sad we became bit late as now we are in U.A.E. but we have been passing thru from Banda Aceh many times and our flight from Banda Aceh to Jakarta as well…sure will come back very soon…please pray


          Originally posted by jim69 View Post
          If you dont want to live in Indonesia then its not a problem, if you do and want to own property a pre - nup is essential. Money will not help. Just search on here, you will find all the information.
          Yes, I have read and this is really surprising and shocking for me as no any departments (KUA or village leader) ask at the time of marriage about pre-nup (solution is very ridiculous).

          Well, let’s see what more surprise coming to me

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          • DanInAceh
            Member
            • May 2012
            • 3049

            #35
            Originally posted by Akram View Post
            Wa alaikum assalam wa rahmatu Allah wa barakatuh

            I’m glad to meet you and thank you very much for your greeting.

            Ohh from Banda Aceh...sad we became bit late as now we are in U.A.E. but we have been passing thru from Banda Aceh many times and our flight from Banda Aceh to Jakarta as well…sure will come back very soon…please pray




            Yes, I have read and this is really surprising and shocking for me as no any departments (KUA or village leader) ask at the time of marriage about pre-nup (solution is very ridiculous).

            Well, let’s see what more surprise coming to me
            I don't think it will be an issue for you. It's certainly an issue for expats living in some parts of the country where there are large numbers of foreigners and the authority of the central government is well (comparatively) respected.

            Here? Ha! I can probably count the number of foreigners here on one hand. They didn't mention it because, as far as I can tell, it's not well enforced here or they just don't know about it. There's also the distinct possibility that since you're a Muslim foreigner it will be completely overlooked here in Aceh.

            I wouldn't take any chances though. Consult with a local Acehnese attorney and see if they have any experience on this matter. Yeah, you should have gotten the pre-nup, but realistically if your wife wants to own/inherit property here I doubt anyone locally will give you a hard time.

            I'd also be curious to what extent enforcement of the shari'a here would be to influence how your inheritance works? If it doesn't go through the central government then you could possibly mediate this through the WH("shari'a police")? I don't know if this is outside their sphere of influence? Again, ask a lawyer!

            Insh'allah you will get all the rewards coming to you.

            Edit: Also, is your wife the eldest daughter? Some of the clans here, most notably Pidie, require that the eldest daughter inherits their parents' home when the parents die. Ask your wife about this and find out soon if she stands to inherit land here. Like the other posters said it's only an issue if you plan to own property here.
            Last edited by DanInAceh; 25-05-12, 08:01.

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            • naeem
              Member
              • May 2012
              • 2

              #36
              Hi Akram,

              I am Naeem from Karachi,

              Dear kindly guide me the procedure and requirement in details, as My fiancee is indonesian. We are planning to Get marry InshAllah in October-2012. But I want to complete all requirements from my side here in Pakistan and also my fiancee there in Jakarta,Indonesia.

              Your guidance in required in this regard.

              Kindly let me know from step one to last


              Thanks in advance

              Naeem

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              • Akram
                Member
                • May 2011
                • 35

                #37
                As salaamu alaikum,

                Sorry for bit delay.

                @[COLOR=#417394]DanInAceh[/COLOR], thanking you very much for your support n be inform that my wife only daughter with 2 younger sons of the parent.

                @naeem, nice to meet you dear and please read my all threads as I have updated all my progress since started till today (can't say end) but in case still require any more assistant, please don't hesitate to get in contact.

                All the best wishes for your coming life.


                with best regards,
                Akram Hussain

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                • arsenal
                  Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 1

                  #38
                  Dear Akram

                  My fiance is Indonesian and I am from Pakistan living and working in Abu Dhabi. We fixed wedding date in September. I already applied for the visa mentioning the purpose which is wedding. My fiance and I myself have prepared all the required documents along with NOC from embassy Pakistan, Jakarta.

                  Today She visted the immigration office along with her parents and appeared before the panel of people comprising the immigration officers, intelligence officers and police officers. They put hard querstions on her and kept on insisting that her case was weak. But they did not mention why was it weak. I have fullfilled all requirements for the visa, only pending approval.

                  They will decide on my application this thursday. I am positive but I want to prepare myself for any situation.

                  Could you please mention any alternative option or the legal way to use to if the decision goes agaisnt my application?

                  Take care. Allah Hafiz

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                  • Akram
                    Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 35

                    #39
                    Originally posted by arsenal View Post
                    Dear Akram

                    My fiance is Indonesian and I am from Pakistan living and working in Abu Dhabi. We fixed wedding date in September. I already applied for the visa mentioning the purpose which is wedding. My fiance and I myself have prepared all the required documents along with NOC from embassy Pakistan, Jakarta.

                    Today She visted the immigration office along with her parents and appeared before the panel of people comprising the immigration officers, intelligence officers and police officers. They put hard querstions on her and kept on insisting that her case was weak. But they did not mention why was it weak. I have fullfilled all requirements for the visa, only pending approval.

                    They will decide on my application this thursday. I am positive but I want to prepare myself for any situation.

                    Could you please mention any alternative option or the legal way to use to if the decision goes agaisnt my application?

                    Take care. Allah Hafiz

                    As salaamu alaikum wa rehmatullahe wa barkatuhu. (Almighty God's peace and blessings be upon you)

                    Firstly, I wish you WELL and all the best wishes in your struggling period.

                    Well, I can feels your frustration being Pakistani and holding green passport as I have been passed through all these but I’m thanking to Allah as made me succeeded.

                    YES, you should be ready to get unacceptable excuse by the immigration as they are Asian as well (no work without bribe) and in my experience point of view; keep $$$ if she’s PRICELESS

                    It would be my pleasure to support you as one guy (Pakistani) from Qatar joined me on the board and got buku nikah with attestation.

                    If you require any more information / guidance, please reach me thru 055-911 4494.


                    With best regards,
                    Akram Hussain

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                    • ali__
                      Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 12

                      #40
                      need Specimen

                      Aassalam o alikum 1. The bridegroom has to provide for original affidavit from his parents that he is not previously married that is authorized to marry with an Indonesia girl .the affidavit has to be duty attested by the Ministry of Foreign Affair Islamabad. I need the Specimen of above mention Affidavit thanks

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                      • Akram
                        Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 35

                        #41
                        Originally posted by ali__ View Post
                        Aassalam o alikum 1. The bridegroom has to provide for original affidavit from his parents that he is not previously married that is authorized to marry with an Indonesia girl .the affidavit has to be duty attested by the Ministry of Foreign Affair Islamabad. I need the Specimen of above mention Affidavit thanks
                        Walaikum Salam
                        I suggest you to contact any agent / notary public (public officer constituted by law to serve the public in non-contentious matters) and ask about this affidavit letter as normally they are having standard format or PM me on [email protected]

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                        • janshah
                          Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1

                          #42
                          thanks

                          Originally posted by Akram View Post
                          Hi,

                          I m sorry for late replying as very rarely visiting this forum.

                          Well, nice to knowing that we are not alone and many couples are on the same shoesJ
                          Yes, we are much closer to our marriage and waiting to get approval for visa as plan for next month (March, 2012).

                          Papers issue as we have researched and got information’s with many successful couples (mix marriage), NOT so much difficult in order to get marry with Indo girl but only visa part (might only for me).

                          Document Required For NOC for Marriqage with Indonesian Girl.

                          1. The bridegroom has to provide for original affidavit from his parents that he is not
                          previously married that is authorized to marry with an Indonesia girl .the affidavit has to be duty attested by the Ministry of Foreign Affair Islamabad ,in case of second marriage permission from his first wife also needed.

                          2. The Willingness Certificate from the girl parents that they allow to marry with the Pakistani man.

                          3. Family registration card or Kartu keluarga of the Indonesian Girl.

                          4. Identity card of the girl

                          5. surat keterangan untuk nikah issued by RT,RW,KELURAHAN ,KUA

                          6. Willingness of the girl that she to marry without force with Pakistani man and will not come to embassy in case of any dispute between them

                          7. Photocopy of (CNIC), POC and valid Pakistani passport

                          8. Fee RP.185.000

                          THIS NEW RULE FOR THOSE PAKISTANI MAN WANT MARRY WITH INDONESIAN GIRL FROM PAKISTAN EMBASSY.


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                          Me n my lovely Fiancée (Place: Medan, Indonesia)
                          thanks akram..i hv also a case same like this i hv a girl friend from indonesia and want to marry with her...i need ur help plzz send me ur cell no i wana talk with u...i need sm information abt process plzzz help me ......

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                          • Akram
                            Member
                            • May 2011
                            • 35

                            #43
                            Originally posted by janshah View Post
                            thanks akram..i hv also a case same like this i hv a girl friend from indonesia and want to marry with her...i need ur help plzz send me ur cell no i wana talk with u...i need sm information abt process plzzz help me ......
                            Salam,

                            Dear Janshah,

                            Hoping you are doing fine...well, I suggest to read very carefully all my threads and you will find my contact number (#39)

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                            • ali__
                              Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 12

                              #44
                              Dear Akram Brother

                              How r u?

                              my question is u did marriage on Tourism visa or social Cultural visa? reply me soon Thank You

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                              • Akram
                                Member
                                • May 2011
                                • 35

                                #45
                                Originally posted by ali__ View Post
                                Dear Akram Brother

                                How r u?

                                my question is u did marriage on Tourism visa or social Cultural visa? reply me soon Thank You

                                I'm fine Ali brother and hoping all good at your end.

                                Well, my first visa was tourist visa (14 days / type: 211) & my 2nd visa was Social-Cultural Visa (social Budaya Visa) a single entry – maximum length of stay is 30 days (extension available for 30 days).

                                Wish you good luck

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