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    Default New Regulations Mean Schools Do not want to Hire Expatriate Teachers.

    I hate to throw a spanner in the works but obviously the news that Nat-Plus and International schools in Indonesia are in crisis has not reached the teaching community. The Indonesian education system is being revamped this year.

    If an International school does not have a mother School outside Indonesia, then basically the licence will be taken away, and the only option the school has is to become a National standard school that hires a majority of Indonesians who teach national curriculum subjects in Bahasa.

    This sudden change means all Indonesian- born students have to take national examinations, all Schools have to have an Indonesian principal, and the majority of teachers have to be locals.

    One reason why there are no current vacancies in Nat-plus schools or International Schools, is that many schools currently are "over-staffed" with foreign teachers. Many of these teachers are going to be laid off by the middle of the year.

    "International" Schools with Indonesian names (AKA- Cirebon International) , have no chance of finding a mother school outside Indonesia, so my guess is if the Ministry of Education enforce these new rules. They and other aptly named "Indonesian" sounding International Schools are soon to be history.

    Other Nat-plus schools that hire a mixture of foreign expatriates, will have to lay off the majority of their staff as well. As there only option is to become a National Standard school, which needs to be by law to be run by an Indonesian principal, and have over 90% Indonesian staff.

    Its not you, its the changeover into a new school system which encourages the training and hiring of indonesian managers, and teachers instead of cleaners and secretaries. Ensuring all Indonesian-born students do study the national curriculum, instead of avoiding it, and guarantees students are taught by overseas teachers in the subject they are qualified (Non-natives cannot teach english anymore or teachers cannot legally teach subjexcts they are not qualified in).

    The good news is that overseas schools can now open here, like for example high end brand schools like Cambridge Uk, Princetown or Eton, can obtain a licence to teach International kids, and own the school 100%. But until that happens, there is gping to be disarray in the current system here.

    Maybe because of this change, it is better to consider the Middle East as an option until this new system is implemented, and schools should hire qualified native expatriates again. Otherwise the only options out there are backpacker outfits like EF.

    I am interested to see if you have any comments about this.....

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    Thank you for sharing that information with the forum, but can you clarify one thing? When you say "international" schools, that obviously does not include, for example, Jakarta International School. JIS is well aware of the new regulations and has publicized the effects that the school administration expects them to have, but there has been no mention of laying off foreign teachers. They have, however, stopped admitting new Indonesian students because they don't think they can meet requirements for preparing Indonesian students to take national exams.

    Are you implying that a place like JIS will survive because they don't have an "Indonesian sounding name" and so therefore will have no trouble attracting a mother school outside Indonesia? Or is some other technicality at work - presumably related to JIS's founding by several embassies. While I'm not exactly worried that places like JIS and BIS are going to have to close up shop or teach classes in Indonesian now, I am curious about what specifically will exempt them from facing problems, and I wonder what it will mean for schools like AIS (which I know do have different legal arrangements than JIS and BIS).

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    This is an exact post reprinted from several months ago. Perhaps the OP has an agenda ?

    Plenty of answers on that other thread.

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    ^
    I noticed that

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    Practically the same post as appeared on another teaching forum. Basically crap: the sky isn't falling in, chicken little.

    My own opinion is that all these posts are written by an expatriate teacher who can't hold down a job for five minutes and seeks to blame 'the system' for his/her career problems.

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    I remembered it being mentioned before too, but didn't think too much about it ... certain topics (liking finding a bule boyfriend) tend to resurface a lot. Actually there are one or two other threads in the "What's New" section right now that are giving me the same sense of deja vu.

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    It's not just déjà vu Puspawarna, it's practically word for word. But your reply was quite reasonable anyway.

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    I don't like this guy. Maybe I'm too suspicious, but his/her posts are inconsistent, except for one ad and another ad as signature. There is no conversation, the guy starts a thread and leave. This has all the making of a spammer, albeit one willing to spend a little extra effort. If it's my call I'd ban him for polluting the forum with dubious one-off threads.
    The guy previously known as Injun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Injun View Post
    but his/her posts are inconsistent
    I just checked the posting history, and boy are you right.

    Posting about where to get care for a sick kid in the middle of the night in one thread, and flogging health insurance in another, and asking about moving to Indonesia without a job in another, and talking about retirement visas in another, and getting a visa when you work for a spouse's company in another (and never following up in even ONE of those threads) .... this does not come together as a picture of a real person. Moreover, s/he (she, if we can believe one post, but I don't think we can) has started 10 threads but never gone back to any of them and never participated in other posters' threads.

    I'm mystified as to the purpose of such games, though. What is s/he getting out of it?

    aaabha, in the unlikely event you are legitimate, you got some 'splainin to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puspawarna View Post
    I just checked the posting history, and boy are you right.

    Posting about where to get care for a sick kid in the middle of the night in one thread, and flogging health insurance in another, and asking about moving to Indonesia without a job in another, and talking about retirement visas in another, and getting a visa when you work for a spouse's company in another (and never following up in even ONE of those threads) .... this does not come together as a picture of a real person. Moreover, s/he (she, if we can believe one post, but I don't think we can) has started 10 threads but never gone back to any of them and never participated in other posters' threads.

    I'm mystified as to the purpose of such games, though. What is s/he getting out of it?

    aaabha, in the unlikely event you are legitimate, you got some 'splainin to do.
    What he/she is getting out of it is permanent placement of his linked ad, which in turn should increase that site's Google page rank.
    The guy previously known as Injun.

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