Reimbursement of Visa fees / foreigner tax?

[bintang11]

I need to ask about this...

If a foreigner leaves a company before the expiration of their KITAS, can the employer claim back any of the expenses incurred in obtaining the visa and / or the foreigner tax ($1200 if I'm not mistaken) from the relevant departments?
I know most (if not all) companies have a clause that requires the employee to pay back a percentage of the visa fees, but I don't know how it works with immigration and the tax department.

Can someone please give me an answer or point me in the right direction?

Thanks.

[marcus]

(1) ..If a foreigner leaves a company before the expiration of their KITAS, can the employer claim back any of the expenses incurred in obtaining the visa and / or the foreigner tax ($1200 if I'm not mistaken) from the relevant departments?

(2) ..., but I don't know how it works with immigration and the tax department.

(1) Companies normally hire an agent to get work permit (IMTA) , KITAS , SKLD , SKTT , ..., so I think it is fair that the employer claim back part of the expenses .

(2)
(a) Immigration : The employer normally hire an agent to cancel your KITAS and get an Exit Only Permit (EPO) stamped in your passport .

(b) Income Tax : The employer is responsible to withhold the income tax monthly (deduct from your monthly salary) and pay it to the Tax Office . The employer also need to provide you an annual income statement/tax withheld , so you can fill the annual Income Tax Return Report and present it to the Tax Office .

[bintang11]

(1) Companies normally hire an agent to get work permit (IMTA) , KITAS , SKLD , SKTT , ..., so I think it is fair that the employer claim back part of the expenses .

(2)
(a) Immigration : The employer normally hire an agent to cancel your KITAS and get an Exit Only Permit (EPO) stamped in your passport .

(b) Income Tax : The employer is responsible to withhold the income tax monthly (deduct from your monthly salary) and pay it to the Tax Office . The employer also need to provide you an annual income statement/tax withheld , so you can fill the annual Income Tax Return Report and present it to the Tax Office .

Thanks for the reply Markus, but I was thinking more about the company claiming back their expenses from Immigration and the tax office, not from the employee. I understand how the process works with agents, EPOs, and personal tax, but I need to find out about rebates for the company.

There is a 'foreigner tax' of US$1200/year which needs to be paid up-front. Can the employer claim this back if the employee leaves before the end of the 12 months? Is there any way of claiming visa fees back from immigration if the visa is cancelled before expiration?

[marcus]

Sorry , I didn't read it carefully .

I don't know about that . I would guess that the employer cannot claim those fees back . The immigration fee (Rp700k per year) is too low to bother claiming part of it back even if possible .

[bintang11]

Sorry , I didn't read it carefully .

I don't know about that . I would guess that the employer cannot claim those fees back . The immigration fee (Rp700k per year) is too low to bother claiming part of it back even if possible .

700K? I didn't know it is only that much for the visa.
I guess that means the agents charge a small fortune then.

That's interesting, and very much helpful. Thank you.

Now I just need to find out about the tax.

[lantern]

I think common sense would suggest that you forget about it.

[bintang11]

I think common sense would suggest that you forget about it.

Common sense actually tells me that a percentage of the tax should be reimbursed as the foreigner is no longer employed by the company, but, as I'm sure we're all aware, common sense doesn't always come in to it when you deal with "the system" here.
This is why I need to confirm it.

[sergei]

Technically the DPKK tax ($1200/year) should be charged monthly at $100/month, so unless the entire annual amount was paid upfront, there shouldn't be anything to claim back. If it was paid upfront, it makes perfect sense to claim the excess back from the manpower department. Now whether they'll give it back is the whole different story.

[bintang11]

Technically the DPKK tax ($1200/year) should be charged monthly at $100/month, so unless the entire annual amount was paid upfront, there shouldn't be anything to claim back. If it was paid upfront, it makes perfect sense to claim the excess back from the manpower department. Now whether they'll give it back is the whole different story.

Excellent! Thanks very much.
I actually didn't know that it was supposed to be a monthly payment, so this makes life a lot easier.
Very helpful reply... thanks again.

[phiss]

It is not a monthly payment... it has to be paid up front.