Inggris Raya

[ricky_id]

As we see it on proper writing, we would refer to the GB as Britain rather than England, unless you're specifically referring to England. In Indonesian, however, you would see Britain referred to as "Inggris" rather than "Britania", and this would probably lead up to confusion when we say "Inggris (instead of Britania Raya) terdiri dari Inggris, Skotlandia, Wales, dan Irlandia Utara". How do you people see it?

[tiatian]

As we see it on proper writing, we would refer to the GB as Britain rather than England, unless you're specifically referring to England. In Indonesian, however, you would see Britain referred to as "Inggris" rather than "Britania", and this would probably lead up to confusion when we say "Inggris (instead of Britania Raya) terdiri dari Inggris, Skotlandia, Wales, dan Irlandia Utara". How do you people see it?

isn't the real name is the Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

[waarmstrong]

I say UK. OK?

[lantern]

isn't the real name is the Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

Great Britain = England, Scotland and Wales
United Kingdom = England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland
British Isles = The islands of Britain and Ireland.
Republic of Ireland = Ireland minus Northern Ireland.
Ireland = Republic + Northern Ireland.

[ricky_id]

I say UK. OK?

No, it's not proper Indonesian, it's a crime haha.

[waarmstrong]

I would thing that a majority of the Irish would prefer the British to kept their island reference singular.

[lantern]

I would thing that a majority of the Irish would prefer the British to kept their island reference singular.

Not everyone:

"Thousands of people have been taking part in commemorations in Belfast to mark one of the most significant dates in unionist history.The six-mile march from central Belfast to Stormont marked the 100th anniversary of the Ulster Covenant, to oppose Home Rule for Ireland in 1912.
There was no trouble at a contentious feeder parade past a north Belfast Catholic church on Saturday morning.
It was the biggest policing operation in the city in 20 years.
A century ago, the signing of the document laid the foundations for the partition of Ireland and the formation of Northern Ireland a decade later"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-19769191

[waarmstrong]

Didn't say all, but I think "a majority" is close to the mark. I grant you it probably does not include many of the orange crowd.

[lantern]

Didn't say all, but I think "a majority" is close to the mark. I grant you it probably does not include many of the orange crowd.

The British Isles is a geographical entity whereas the UK is political. You would be ill-advised to use the latter it in certain parts of Northern Ireland as it's not recognized. I think the current feeling among the majority in Ireland is that peace takes precedence over a united Ireland. The Orange mindset is receding into history. They march to proclaim their Britishness but in reality the majority in Britain see them as Irish dinosaurs.

[waarmstrong]

You are of course correct Lantern, but I think that more than a few Irish, just like many residents of the Americans resent that "Americans" is taken to refer to people from the United States, chafe that their island is geographically grouped and named by a political union no longer extent.