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    Can someone help briefly tell me what the upcoming elections are all about.

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    Given that I work in the field of elections, I could give you a pretty complete snapshot, but not in 15 words or less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inmedan View Post
    Can someone help briefly tell me what the upcoming elections are all about.
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    Easy mite, it's who can pay the most money, to buy the most number of votes, whether it's cash payments to individual voters, or specific groups who will vote as they are told to.
    This includes all the money spent on the propaganda 'encouraging' people to believe that they will personally benefit by voting for them.
    After getting elected, they initially focus upon making back the money they outlaid and after that on making a profit!
    Oh I almost forgot, the 'perks' of Office ;}

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauricio View Post
    Given that I work in the field of elections, I could give you a pretty complete snapshot, but not in 15 words or less.
    ahhhhhh, so that's why you are as cynical as me mite :}
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mauricio View Post
    Given that I work in the field of elections, I could give you a pretty complete snapshot, but not in 15 words or less.
    Do it in more than 15 words then, if you don't mind. I would be interested to read your input about it.

    I will do it in much more than 15 words (sorry if it is long)

    Indonesian are gonna be voting to renew the totality of MPR (Majelis Permusyawaratan Rakyat) which is a bicameral legislature. The first chamber (DPR-RI) has 550 members (it will be brought to 560 with next month election) elected for 5 years by proportional representation while the second chamber (DPD-RI) is composed by 4 members elected in each province, also elected for 5 years, and is the Regional Representatives Council.

    The DPD deals with bills related on regional autonomy, relations in between central and local governments (kota/kabupaten/propinsi), formation or expansion of regions, the management of local natural or economic ressources and bills related to the financial balance in between the centre and the regions. They also have their word to say on any regional bill proposed by the DPR-RI.

    The DPR-RI is the lower house and has three main functions which are legifering, budgeting and overseeing the action of the government.
    The DPR-RI draws and votes laws (undang-undang), approves government regulations and proposals from DPD related to regional issues. In accordance with the President, they produce the annual budget and finally they have the right to question the President and the Ministers.
    The DPR-RI is divided in 11 commissions (Komisi) with different areas of responsability and each commission has to work on the bills related to their area of responsability which will later be discussed in plenary session. The comissions are:.

    Komisi I: Defense, intelligence/information and foreign affairs.
    Komisi II: Domestic affairs, regional autonomy, state apparatus and agrarian affairs.
    Komisi III: Legal affairs and laws, human rights and security
    Komisi IV: Agriculture, maritime affairs, fishing industries and food
    Komisi V: Transport, Telkom, public works, public housing, village development
    Komis VI: Trade, industry, investment, small and medium businesses and public companies
    Komii VII: Energy, natural mineral resources, research and technology, environment
    Komisi VIII: Religion, social affairs, women rights
    Komisi IX: Demographic affairs, health, manpower and transmigration
    Komisi X: Education, youth affairs, sports, tourism, art and culture
    Komisi XI: Finance, national development planning, banking institutions.
    The DPR-RI is presided by Agung Laksono, a Golkar member. Partai Golkar is the most represented political party at the moment, followed by Ibu Megawati's political party (PDI-P)

    Prior to 2004, the MPR was electing the President of Indonesia. It is not the case anymore, and Pak SBY was the first President elected by the people of Indonesia themselves.
    The presidential election will be held on July 2009.
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    Oh sorry mite, I didn't realise it was a serious question, looking for serious replies, I thought this was the Expat forum ;}

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    Quote Originally Posted by atlantis View Post
    Do it in more than 15 words then, if you don't mind. I would be interested to read your input about it.

    I will do it in much more than 15 words (sorry if it is long)

    Indonesian are gonna be voting to renew the totality of MPR (Majelis Permusyawaratan Rakyat) which is a bicameral legislature. The first chamber (DPR-RI) has 550 members (it will be brought to 560 with next month election) elected for 5 years by proportional representation while the second chamber (DPD-RI) is composed by 4 members elected in each province, also elected for 5 years, and is the Regional Representatives Council.

    The DPD-RI deals with bills related on regional autonomy, relations in between central and local governments (kota/kabupaten/propinsi), formation or expansion of regions, the management of local natural or economic ressources and bills related to the financial balance in between the centre and the regions. They also have their word to say on any regional bill proposed by the DPR-RI.

    The DPR-RI is the lower house and has three main functions which are legifering, budgeting and overseeing the action of the government.
    The DPR-RI draws and votes laws (undang-undang), approves government regulations and proposals from DPR-D related to regional issues. In accordance with the President, they produce the annual budget and finally they have the right to question the President and the Ministers.
    The DPR-RI is divided in 11 commissions (Komisi) with different areas of responsability and each commission has to work on the bills related to their area of responsability which will later be discussed in plenary session. The comissions are:.

    Komisi I: Defense, intelligence/information and foreign affairs.
    Komisi II: Domestic affairs, regional autonomy, state apparatus and agrarian affairs.
    Komisi III: Legal affairs and laws, human rights and security
    Komisi IV: Agriculture, maritime affairs, fishing industries and food
    Komisi V: Transport, Telkom, public works, public housing, village development
    Komis VI: Trade, industry, investment, small and medium businesses and public companies
    Komii VII: Energy, natural mineral resources, research and technology, environment
    Komisi VIII: Religion, social affairs, women rights
    Komisi IX: Demographic affairs, health, manpower and transmigration
    Komisi X: Education, youth affairs, sports, tourism, art and culture
    Komisi XI: Finance, national development planning, banking institutions.
    The DPR-RI is presided by Agung Laksono, a Golkar member. Partai Golkar is the most represented political party at the moment, followed by Ibu Megawati's political party (PDI-P)

    Prior to 2004, the MPR was electing the President of Indonesia. It is not the case anymore, and Pak SBY was the first President elected by the people of Indonesia themselves.
    The presidential election will be held on July 2009.
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    Quote Originally Posted by omdafyd View Post
    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......

    Easy mite, it's who can pay the most money, to buy the most number of votes, whether it's cash payments to individual voters, or specific groups who will vote as they are told to.
    This includes all the money spent on the propaganda 'encouraging' people to believe that they will personally benefit by voting for them.
    After getting elected, they initially focus upon making back the money they outlaid and after that on making a profit!
    Oh I almost forgot, the 'perks' of Office ;}

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    And lose, and start again at your beginnings,
    And never breathe a word about your loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atlantis View Post
    Indonesian are gonna be voting to renew the totality of MPR (Majelis Permusyawaratan Rakyat) which is a bicameral legislature. The first chamber (DPR-RI) has 550 members (it will be brought to 560 with next month election) elected for 5 years by proportional representation while the second chamber (DPR-D) is composed by 4 members elected in each province, and is the Regional Representatives Council...
    I'll just add to Atlantis' summary that the electoral system for the DPR is based on 77 electoral districts, each one electing between three and ten representatives, based on an open-candidate list, with a modified Hare Quota electoral formula and a national threshold of 2.5%. "Proportional representation" has so many possible implementations that the terms, in and by itself, is hardly meaningfull.

    The DPD is a paper tiger. The real power lies with the DPR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inmedan View Post
    Can someone help briefly tell me what the upcoming elections are all about.

    Indonesians cash in on pre-election sweeteners

    * Tom Allard, Jakarta
    * March 14, 2009

    Ballot papers in some districts of Jakarta are almost a metre wide due to the high number of candidates running.

    Ballot papers in some districts of Jakarta are almost a metre wide due to the high number of candidates running. Photo: AFP

    FOR many Indonesian villagers, the first sign that an election is around the corner are the posters, colourful flags and bunting affixed to every structure in their neighbourhood.

    The second is a visit from a party official offering money, food and other benefits in exchange for their votes.

    For the family of Sumarna and Hani, a young couple from Cikalong Kulon village in West Java, it was an offer of free health insurance that swayed them to sign up for Gerindra, the party of former Suharto-era general Prabowo Subianto.

    "Hani told me that her uncle had just become a Gerindra member. Then she took me to meet her uncle who told me if we were Gerindra members our health would be covered by health insurance," said Sumarna, who like many Indonesians goes by one name.

    "So I gave them a copy of my identity card and now I'm a member. That's it."

    Gerindra signed up 15 members of the family, giving each a T-shirt and 5000 rupiah (70 Australian cents) as well for their support.

    It's a strategy that explains how Prabowo's fledgling party has managed to recruit 11 million members in just a year.

    But it also points to a wider phenomenon in Indonesia — money politics that extends from small hand-outs to poor villagers to a slew of bribery and corruption scandals that have hit the national legislature.

    In nearby Cisarandi village, it's the PKS, the Islamic party that prides itself on its anti-corruption credentials, that has been handing out the goodies.

    In this case, bags of rice and sugar have been handed out at a quarter of the cost an Indonesian would pay at the market.

    From Monday, the election campaign formally begins for Indonesia's house of representatives ahead of polling day on April 9. It is a huge exercise in democracy, Indonesia-style.

    Over 170 million voters will choose from almost 12,000 candidates from 38 political parties contesting 560 seats. Ballot papers in some districts are almost a metre wide due to the number of candidates.

    The house of representatives, or Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat, is an important law-making body but the election results will also have a critical bearing on an even bigger race to be held later in the year, the presidency.

    Up to a quarter of Indonesia's voters are undecided, which is why the campaign — and the doling out of largesse by parties — is so important.

    And what concerns anti-corruption advocates is that the DPR, at the apex of Indonesia's money politics, will remain populated by members angling for their own monetary interests rather than those of the public they serve.

    Kevin O'Rourke, the Jakarta-based political analyst and author of the Reformasi newsletter, sees the money politics in Indonesia as one aspect of the "patronage legacy" from the long dictatorship of Suharto that ended barely a decade ago.

    Still, he said, Indonesia was improving. While corrupt party bosses have demanded payment from anyone wishing to become an endorsed candidate in the past, the practice is not as common now.

    An electoral law change means voters can choose individuals rather than just a party and its predetermined list of candidates. That means politicians in the new legislature should be more accountable to voters, O'Rourke argued.

    However, Kacung Maridjan, a political analyst of the Airlangga University, sees it differently.

    He told the Jakarta Post that the new system meant aspiring politicians were turning their attention from bribing party bosses to get a prime spot on the list of candidates and now directly "buy" as many votes as possible from constituents.

    Frenky Simanjuntak, manager of policy and research at Transparency International, is not optimistic the corruption culture in the DPR will change.

    "The reality is here that many people who get involved in politics do it because they consider it a job, a way to make money," he said. "They don't have any policy vision or agenda and that creates a problem."

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