average salary for European expats

**new in jakarta** · 14-12-11, 01:30

Dear all,
my wife was offered to move to jakarta. at this stage she doesnt have a firm offer in hands and we are wondering what an average salary for an european architect in Jakara would be.
the company will cover all living expenses like housing, schools for the kids, a car etc... bu we are wondering what an average salary would be.
further I would like to know the chances for my self? I am currently working as a Manager in the shipping industry and would move over to jakarta without job offer as my company is not present in indonesia neither have any contacts in that area.
any help in question of figuers and in question to my work situation would help us a lot.
thanks a lot for your time and hope that somebody can help us. any ball figures would help already. (not cost of living as I have found these in the forum, just total salary amounts that are realistic to ask for).
R.

**kingwilly** · 14-12-11, 06:14

Somewhere between $1000 p/m - $10,000 p/m.

**roysingh** · 14-12-11, 10:26

What kind of Architect ? Interior design or Civil Engineering ?

**new in jakarta** · 14-12-11, 16:22

thanks Roysingh,
she is a civil engineering architect.

**waarmstrong** · 14-12-11, 16:46

In the USA civil engineering and architecture are separate, distinct professions. Perhaps it’s different in Europe.

**rabbit_39** · 14-12-11, 17:12

Waarm: I think the difference is that civil architecture is more to do with the structural engineering aspect whereas architecture (Interior design) as asked by Roy is simply that.

**waarmstrong** · 14-12-11, 17:30

Interior design is a third profession, not engineers, not architects. Civil engineers are dirt movers; structural engineers, well, do structures. Architects fancy themselves as artists who work with building materials. A well designed building will have, among others, all three professions working together in harmony.

**rabbit_39** · 14-12-11, 17:34

I know, I was just thinking that perhaps in Indonesia the division of labor is different.

For me, civil engineers build the targets for mechanical engineer's weapons to destroy. :-D

**waarmstrong** · 14-12-11, 17:52

Yes, and apologies to the OP for rambling a bit.

**jj9749** · 14-12-11, 19:25

If they're paying for housing, schools for the kids, a car etc, that can already be $4000 or more per month, so to get a salary of $3-4000 on top of that would be pretty good in my opinion (based on no knowledge of architecture but some of other professions).

I also don't know much about the shipping industry, but I would have thought there'd me more chance in a place like Batam or Singapore than Jakarta.