Will salaries be increased as laws get more stringent?

[Flicka]

Now that EFL teachers supposedly have to have an English or Education related degree as well as the CELTA, do you think language school salaries will increase to reflect the higher qualified teachers they are seeking to hire?
Do you think that teachers with the correct qualifications will have any clout in salary negotiation?

[kingwilly]

[Flicka]

?...?

[kingwilly]

as in I doubt that language school salaries will increase much

and I doubt very much that many teachers will have any clout in salary negotations

[Flicka]

That's a shame. Thanks for your input!

[jared1981]

I think that they would stay the same for the qualifications that you have. So if there is no supply of unqualified teachers that would normally make peanuts, the more qualified ones would fill in, but at a salary that meets expectations for them. Of course that's not always how it works here, so I'm sure we'll still have backpackers and the lot trying to make a few bucks a month.

[K&M]

Not being in this line of work, but following with interest.
Would it not be as such that if the laws are enforced, then the supply of qualified teachers to meet those requirements, be limited.
I cannot see the need for English diminishing, and thus the price of the service go up and the ability to negotiate and get a increased salary improve.´
It seems that if the regulations were enforced then the qualifications needed are that of a fully qualified English teacher and the global demand for English or American English will not disappear overnight.
I am sure that places like Thailand Korea and Japan etc Will still enable CELTA trained teachers to find work, but in Indonesia that may well not be there.
Of course this is Indonesia and there is a lot of money made with CELTA based teachers and thus it remains to be seen if the rules Will be strictly enforced or not, only time will tell.
KW care to expand on your rationale if the lwas are enforced

[kingwilly]

KW care to expand on your rationale if the lwas are enforced

key word being IF.

I do not see it happening much. I think the government will slowly try and enforce the rules, but in practice, that tends not to happen. I also think there are loads of CELTA, TEFL, TESOL etc teachers around, and that supply and demand are funny things.

Perhaps a few more language will upgrade their skills (grudgingly), some may leave Indonesia, some may leave the 'profession/industry' but there will always be enough gap year students, travelers, sexpats, retired folk, etc to fill the ranks of the English teachign brigade, and thus the ones that truly want to teach English will always be faced with low wages and shitty conditions.

[K&M]

Amazing Indonesia, ooops thats Thailand's catch phrase. So you think that it is mostly hot air. As a bystander there seems to be a significant amount of publicity with regard to the issue, clouded by other issues at the same time.
If that publicity is maintained at a high level, as some people seem intent on doing, then the current status quo would then probably result in increased backhanders for those companies to continue to operate. Unless that can be passed on to the students, then is there a danger of the exact opposite for CELTA qualified teachers that the salaries may even be reduced. For sheer hassle alone, I can foresee some teachers opting to take easier positions in other countries where their services are equally in demand, and appreciated. Of course many of those teachers are here for personal reasons, and enjoying Indonesia for what it is, but not all that is for sure

[dazzer]

As far as my school is concerned, a teaching degree yes is now needed but a CELTA?? I havent heard that one as yet.... I have a BA in English literature but no CELTA and im in the process of re-negotiating a new contract at present...