Is this a new scam?
Ok here is what happened, I got a new Handphone for Christmas, I gave my old one to the maid, she is a good girl and has been with me for 3 years. Anyway she decided to try make some money and sell her old one, not worth a lot but I admired her business sense. She advertised it in the local paper. Yesterday she got a call from someone wanting to buy it, however as they were not close they asked her for her bank details they said they would transfer the money to her account and once she received the money she would Tiki it to them which they would pay for. They told her to check her account and call them to confirm the money had arrived and call them if it hadn't. So she goes to the ATM, no money there and call them. They tell her to check again and call them while she is checking ie the card is in the ATM machine which she does. A conversation goes on and no money is transfered, but now they have emptied her account....... seems they had to know when her ATM card was in the machine. She lost about 3 million, not a lot to us but she is distraught. Anyone else heard of this?
Yes... They probably asked her to input their account number and specify an amount in order for them to complete their transfer. It is sometimes confusing to those who are not very familiar with such transactions. And because she was desperate to sell the phone, she probably fell victim to their scam.
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Next tell her to call the bank and get her transaction details. Bank name, swift code, etc... There is absolutely no need for her to go at the ATM machine.
Yes and enough examples that she should have been aware. Definitely NOT a new scam. Well worn.
Not a scam as such but more a case of social engineering; she was basically conned into transferring from her account to theirs, instead of the other way around. I've heard about this one from 2 people locally who also fell for it; although they'll happily say they were hypnotized. C'est la vie I guess.
It's surprising though how easily most Indonesian (and a lot of you expat types) can be social engineered, I'm almost tempted to write a paper on it.
It's been in the local papers several times, warning ATM users. Typically the con artist can spot the vulnerable by what they are selling. Of course they pray on the uneducated and those who come from the kampung to the big city.
The hypnotism method is very frequent, and especially amongst the locals. The only expat cases that I have heard of are when one is drunk and got a case of pink magic after a night at the bar. I guess that is a similar case of hypnotism but works on the lower head of males?
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This is one thing that I certainly don't miss about Indonesia. Way too many scams going on, two of my neighbors experienced it. One was "hypnotized" over the phone to drive to the bank and transfer money out. His strange attitude attracted the attention of the bank's Satpam who actually approached him and warned him to be careful. It didn't help, he didn't snap out of it until 50 million Rp later.
The other was a case of social engineering. She was called to immediately transfer a large sum of money supposedly because her husband got hospitalized due to a horrific accident. They almost got her because all his phone numbers were mysteriously blocked. She was saved when a good samaritan who gave her a lift to the ATM suggested that she tried his coworker's phone number. As luck had it, the coworker was actually sitting in his office with her husband. I'm convinced that these guys have connections inside Telkom, somebody who has the means to block phone numbers.
The guy previously known as Injun.
I think expats are rather safe from hypnotism because the crooks don't speak enough English to pull it off.Originally Posted by tjamail
Similar method seems to be common elsewhere:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7309947.stm
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ypnotic01.html
http://showbizandstyle.inquirer.net/..._to_rob_people
The guy previously known as Injun.
Where can I learn to do that?
Even if I know the place, why would I promote it? There's more than enough of it going around.
The guy previously known as Injun.
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