Registerring with the Polisi {posted by suami mbaksolo}

[mbaksolo]

Hi folks,
I would appreciate some feedback on other peoples experiences with the 'regulations' re; registering with the local polisi.
I just followed the 'norm' of the other expats in Jogya back in '04 when I first arrived, which was to re-register every month, and of course pay the 'fee'..
After befriending the local Commandant, simply by chance, the 'fee' was waived after that. {Everything in this office is free for you Mbak hahah :}
I was always curious however, why I was required to go through the same process monthly when the form had an arrival and departure date..
I raised the issue with the polisi upon our arrival in Solo some time later and a Book of Regulations was thrown onto the table in front of me {aggressively, and written in Indonesian of course} and none too politely informed that it was the rules!
The first Kantor polisi in Solo gave me three months, a couple of times, and then two months and now in our new location we are only given 1 month with of course an expectation of providing some 'yuang rokok'.usually 20,000..
My Indonesian wife informs me that the new Kantor have stated the reason is that Immigrasi only provide me with a monthly extension so they, the polisi must follow with the same time frame and cannot give me more time...this is despite the first time we registered with this new office they simply copied the old from and gave me two months????
Anyone have any idea as to the legal requirements?

[atlantis]

After befriending the local Commandant, simply by chance, the 'fee' was waived after that. {Everything in this office is free for you Mbak hahah :}
I raised the issue with the polisi upon our arrival in Solo some time later and a Book of Regulations was thrown onto the table in front of me {aggressively, and written in Indonesian of course} and none too politely informed that it was the rules!
with of course an expectation of providing some 'yuang rokok'.usually 20,000..
My Indonesian wife informs me that the new Kantor have stated the reason is that Immigrasi only provide me with a monthly extension so they, the polisi must follow with the same time frame and cannot give me more time...this is despite the first time we registered with this new office they simply copied the old from and gave me two months????
Anyone have any idea as to the legal requirements?

If one want to have a proper answer, one need first to define a few different things first:

1. What is an "Ijin Tinggal"? What is an "Ijin Kunjungan"?
They are components of the group of the "ijin keimigrasian" (immigration permit), which comprise the Ijin Kunjungan (visit permit), the ijin singgah (transit permit), the "ijin tinggal terbatas (temporary resident permit) and the "ijin tinggal tetap" (permanent resident permit). This is stated in the Pasal 24 Undang-Undang nomor 9 tahun 1992.
The "Ijin Tinggal", which exist in two sorts, temporary (Ijin Tinggal Terbatas) or permanent (Ijin Tinggal Tetap) are given to KITAS and KITAP holder only, while "Ijin Kunjungan" is given to people who has a Visa Kunjungan Wisata (Tourist Visit Visa), a Visa Kunjungan Sosial Budaya (SosBud Visa) or a Visa Kunjungan Usaha (business visa).

2. What is a SKLD?
This is a Surat Keterangan Lapor Diri which is Police ID card that any foreigner who has a residency permit (ijin tinggal) is supposed to have. It dipenses you for example to have to carry your passport at all time. People with KITAP/KITAP are supposed to report in the 30 days of issuance of their Residency Permit and have 7 days to report any change (Pasal 19, ayat 1 dan ayat 2, Peraturan pemerintah nomor 31 tahun 1994 tentang Pengawasan Orang Asing). Reporting to the police as soon as you get your "Ijin Tinggal" would entitle you to nice plastic card named SKLD (Pasal 19, ayat 3, Peraturan Pemerintah nomor 31 tahun 1994 tentang Pengawasan orang Asing)
Failure to report would expose you to a maximum of Rp 5.000.000 fine and a maximum of 1 year in jail as per Pasal 61, Undang-Undang nomor 9 tahun 1992.
Though there was no legal fee for it until June 2010 there is now a legal fee of IDR 100.000 for KITAS holder and IDR 200.000 for KITAP holder.

Pasal 61 - Undang Undang nomor 9 tahun 1992
Orang asing yang sudah mempunyai izin tinggal yang tidak melapor kepada kantor Kepolisian Negara Republik Indonesia di tempat tinggal atau tempat kediamannya dalam waktu 30 (tiga puluh) hari terhitung sejak diperolehnya izin tinggal, dipidana dengan pidana kurungan paling lama 1 (satu) tahun atau denda paling banyak Rp 5.000.000,- (lima juta rupiah).

3. What is a STM?
This is a Surat Tanda Melapor, better known as a Certificate of Police Registration which concerns any foreigner, though the foreigner himself is not forced to apply in person. This is a report to the police that states where you live and for how long. The Pasal 10, Peraturan Pemerintah nomor 31 tahun 1994 tentang Pengawasan orang Asing reads:

Setiap orang yang memberikan kesempatan orang asing menginap di tempat kediamannya wajib melaporkan kepada Kantor Kepolisian Republik Indonesia atau Pejabat Pemerintah Daerah setempat dalam jangka waktu 24 (dua puluh empat jam) sejak tanggal kedatangan orang asing tersebut .

It means that the person who gives shelter (hotel, wife, friend...etc) has to report you in the delay of 24 hours after your arrival. Here no notion of type or duration of stay... and it has its importance. The person who provides you accomodation reports and tell how long she intends to do so. I am very interested to see where (ie in what legal text) a Police officer saw that he is the one deciding of your departure date.
Further on, this is a report from one person, giving shelter to a foreigner, to the police. Not in any way an authorisation asked to shelter someon to a particular date. It means simply that YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE REPORTED AGAIN AS LONG AS YOU DON'T CHANGE ADDRESS !
However if one forget to report you in the delay of 24 hours after your arrival, he is entitled to the penalies listed in the Pasal 60, undang undang nomor 9 tahun 1992 which says:

Setiap orang yang memberi kesempatan menginap kepada orang asing dan tidak melaporkan kepada Pejabat Kepolisian Negara Republik Indonesia atau Pejabat Pemerintah Daerah setempat yang berwenang dalam 24 (dua puluh empat) jam sejak kedatangan orang asing tersebut, dipidana dengan pidana kurungan paling lama 1 (satu) tahun atau denda paling banyak Rp 5.000.000,- (lima juta rupiah).

None of the two laws quoted submit the length of the STM to the length of an Ijin Tinggal or Ijin Kunjungan. It is submitted to the length of stay reported. What they often do is to try to make you believe that the article 61 UU 9/1992 concerns STM and that you have to report every 30 days. This is bull****. Article 61 concerns people with an Ijin Tinggal, therefore not you who has an Ijin Kunjungan.
Another way to respond would be to remenber them that the validity of an Ijin Kunjungan is defined by the Pasal 35 ayat 1,2 and 3, Peraturan Pemerintah nomor 32 tahun 1994 and says that the Visit Permit is given for 60 days (ayat 1) from the date of entrance and can be renewed up to 5 times, each time for 30 days (ayat 2) providing that it is not an Ijin Kunjungan Wisata (ayat 3) which is valid only for 60 days and can not be extended. Therefore reporting a 6 months length of stay would not be illegal. It does not mean that the foreigner is gonna stay for 6 months, but that the person who is reporting him is ready to shelter him for 6 months.

So to the nice guys who throw books on the table, kindly ask them to read again their bloody book.

- If you are a KITAS/KITAP holder, report to the police for SKLD (30 days maximum after the issuance of your Ijin Tinggal) and report any change in your residency in the 7 days that it happened. Make sure that the person who provides you accomodation (even if it your wife/son or whoever in the family) report you in the 24 hours and have a STM remitted. You need to do it again only if you change for a new accomodation.
- If you are holder of an Ijin Kunjungan or VoA, you are only concerned by the STM in the conditions defined above...

Best is not to fight with them. Either, ignore what they tell you and just follow what the law says, or if you feel unconfortable with it, just report every month without giving any money (Since the STM absolutely does not have any legal fee, they will soon understand your point and ask you to come back only if you change residence...).

Hope that the above explanations are clear enough, but if it is not, feel free to ask more clarifications.

[atlantis]

1. JUKNIS/12/III/1995 tentang Penyelenggara Ketentuan Wajib Lapor Kepada Polri Bagi Orang Asing Tinggal Terbatas dan Orang Asing Tinggal Tetap is the internal POLRI document which regulates the procedure for obtaining a SKLD

2. JUKLAK/09/II/1995 Tentang Pengawasan Kewajiban Setiap Orang Yang memberikan Kesempatan Menginap Kepada Orang Asing Untuk Melapor Kepada Polri is the internal POLRI document related to the implementation of the procedure for STM

A friend of mine who taught for long at the SPN let me read a large excerpt of both but I could not get a copy of it. However, nothing in it was contradicting the precedent post. Anyway, it legally couldn't say anything different than laws.

[ashayu]

Wow,I am seriously unaware of the way the whole system is supposed work.

Let me run the steps in order...


1. Obtain VITAS

2. Report to police for STM within 24 hours.

3.Report to the local Immigration Office within 7 days of arrival. There I get the KITAS Card.

4.Report to the Police within 30 days after KITAS is issued to obtain SKLD.

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I have an issue here: i did obtain STM immediately upon my arrival and they have made the STM based on SVB since I did not have KITAS then and my Departure date on STM has been entered as 05 Feb 2009.

So should I visit them again for a new STM once I have my KITAS as it will allow me to stay for a year?

Please correct me wherever I may have gone wrong in my understanding.

Thank you.

[ashayu]

Please guide me on SKTT too. Do I have to visit any specific office for this? Is it to be followed after KITAS is issued?

Thanks

[ashayu]

Thanks for your guidance, atlantis.

I visited the local Police station after our exchange, they amended the STM and I have report again in 6 months. No extra charges.

They said there is no need for the ID Card provided by Police.

I am wondering if I am doing something wrong.

[atlantis]

Thanks for your guidance, atlantis.

I visited the local Police station after our exchange, they amended the STM and I have report again in 6 months. No extra charges.

They said there is no need for the ID Card provided by Police.

I am wondering if I am doing something wrong.

You are not doing things wrong... They are missing something about the law:
SKLD is mandatory by law for foreigners having a KITAS. Don't go to the local Police station for that one, but get in touch with the main police resort and go to the Direktorat Intelkam P.O.A.

[Dr. Michael Beer]

1.Please,could any of the immigration gurus get this link working - it gives error messages/NOT FOUND:
http://www.imigrasi.go.id/popUp.inc....detail&faqId=3
2. I just returned back from Imigrasi Singaraja, Bali. They have an "official" fee-liste, but it shows e.g. for 1 year Exit-Re-Entry Rp 1,750.000...Does anybody have a REAL one? Would this be valid for whole RI? It should be...
3. ad 19) What police MAIN Resort is meant, where I can get issued the SKLD? Would this be for Bali the district I live or the Headquarter in Denpasar. Could you please state the exact name.
Very grateful

Last but not least: is there - like in other countries - a website where you can download the formulir needed? It would make a lot of help, I have to travel anyway around 120km.

[atlantis]

.Please,could any of the immigration gurus get this link working - it gives error messages:
http://www.imigrasi.go.id/popUp.inc.php?go=faq&subgo=detail&faqId=3

I am not sure to understand what you mean here
You may want to send an email directly to the imigrasi. None of the users here are working for Imigrasi either.

2. I just returned back from Imigrasi Singaraja, Bali. They have an "official" fee-liste, but it shows e.g. for 1 year Exit-Re-Entry Rp 1,750.000...Does anybody have a REAL one? Would this be valid for whole RI? It should be...

The official fee list that regulates immigration fees is obviously valid for the whole territory of Indonesia. The exact reference for the law is: Peraturan Pemerintah nomor 19 tahun 2007 and you can download it by clicking on the link. Look at the roman numbers VII.
The price for an Izin Masuk Kembali are:
1. IDR 200.000 for a single entry Izin Masuk Kembali
2. IDR 600.000 for a multiple entry Izin Msuk Kembali valid 6 months
3. IDR 1.000.000 for a multiple entry Izin Msuk Kembali valid 1 year.
4. IDR 1.750.000 for a multiple entry Izin Msuk Kembali valid 2 years.

With a KITAS index 317 or 319 (I don't remenber what is your Index of KITAS, but from what I recall it is either a retirement KITAS - 319 - or a KITAS sponsored by your Indonesian wife - 317... Correct?) only the number 1., 2. or 3. are available to you.

3. ad 19) What police MAIN Resort is meant, where I can get issued the SKLD? Would this be for Bali the district I live or the Headquarter in Denpasar. Could you please state the exact name.

I refer to the POLDA office of the place you live. Unfortunately I do not have any address for Bali or any other city in Indonesia, but the city where I live. Kindly ask to a local to point you the Kantor POLDA.

Last but not least: is there - like in other countries - a website where you can download the formulir needed? It would make a lot of help, I have to travel anyway around 120km.

Erm... I am afraid that you won't have such website in Indonesia available before a few years. I may even be optimistic with this statement.

[wongys31]

If one want to have a proper answer, one need first to define a few different things first:

1. What is an "Ijin Tinggal"? What is an "Ijin Kunjungan"?
They are components of the group of the "ijin keimigrasian" (immigration permit), which comprise the Ijin Kunjungan (visit permit), the ijin singgah (transit permit), the "ijin tinggal terbatas (temporary resident permit) and the "ijin tinggal tetap" (permanent resident permit). This is stated in the Pasal 24 Undang-Undang nomor 9 tahun 1992.
The "Ijin Tinggal", which exist in two sorts, temporary (Ijin Tinggal Terbatas) or permanent (Ijin Tinggal Tetap) are given to KITAS and KITAP holder only, while "Ijin Kunjungan" is given to people who has a Visa Kunjungan Wisata (Tourist Visit Visa), a Visa Kunjungan Sosial Budaya (SosBud Visa) or a Visa Kunjungan Usaha (business visa).

2. What is a SKLD?
This is a Surat Keterangan Lapor Diri which is Police ID card that any foreigner who has a residency permit (ijin tinggal) is supposed to have. It dipenses you for example to have to carry your passport at all time. People with KITAP/KITAP are supposed to report in the 30 days of issuance of their Residency Permit and have 7 days to report any change (Pasal 19, ayat 1 dan ayat 2, Peraturan pemerintah nomor 31 tahun 1994 tentang Pengawasan Orang Asing). Reporting to the police as soon as you get your "Ijin Tinggal" would entitle you to nice plastic card named SKLD (Pasal 19, ayat 3, Peraturan Pemerintah nomor 31 tahun 1994 tentang Pengawasan orang Asing)
Failure to report would expose you to a maximum of Rp 5.000.000 fine and a maximum of 1 year in jail as per Pasal 61, Undang-Undang nomor 9 tahun 1992.
Though I never found any legal basis saying that SKLD bears a LEGAL fee, I often heard that there is a "Biaya Resmi" of IDR 50K to be paid to MABES POLRI for the SKLD. One doesn't want to fight with MABES POLRI. Just pay it.

Pasal 61 - Undang Undang nomor 9 tahun 1992
Orang asing yang sudah mempunyai izin tinggal yang tidak melapor kepada kantor Kepolisian Negara Republik Indonesia di tempat tinggal atau tempat kediamannya dalam waktu 30 (tiga puluh) hari terhitung sejak diperolehnya izin tinggal, dipidana dengan pidana kurungan paling lama 1 (satu) tahun atau denda paling banyak Rp 5.000.000,- (lima juta rupiah).

3. What is a STM?
This is a Surat Tanda Melapor, better known as a Certificate of Police Registration which concerns any foreigner, though the foreigner himself is not forced to apply in person. This is a report to the police that states where you live and for how long. The Pasal 10, Peraturan Pemerintah nomor 31 tahun 1994 tentang Pengawasan orang Asing reads:

Setiap orang yang memberikan kesempatan orang asing menginap di tempat kediamannya wajib melaporkan kepada Kantor Kepolisian Republik Indonesia atau Pejabat Pemerintah Daerah setempat dalam jangka waktu 24 (dua puluh empat jam) sejak tanggal kedatangan orang asing tersebut .

It means that the person who gives shelter (hotel, wife, friend...etc) has to report you in the delay of 24 hours after your arrival. Here no notion of type or duration of stay... and it has its importance. The person who provides you accomodation reports and tell how long she intends to do so. I am very interested to see where (ie in what legal text) a Police officer saw that he is the one deciding of your departure date.
Further on, this is a report from one person, giving shelter to a foreigner, to the police. Not in any way an authorisation asked to shelter someon to a particular date. It means simply that YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE REPORTED AGAIN AS LONG AS YOU DON'T CHANGE ADDRESS !
However if one forget to report you in the delay of 24 hours after your arrival, he is entitled to the penalies listed in the Pasal 60, undang undang nomor 9 tahun 1992 which says:

Setiap orang yang memberi kesempatan menginap kepada orang asing dan tidak melaporkan kepada Pejabat Kepolisian Negara Republik Indonesia atau Pejabat Pemerintah Daerah setempat yang berwenang dalam 24 (dua puluh empat) jam sejak kedatangan orang asing tersebut, dipidana dengan pidana kurungan paling lama 1 (satu) tahun atau denda paling banyak Rp 5.000.000,- (lima juta rupiah).

None of the two laws quoted submit the length of the STM to the length of an Ijin Tinggal or Ijin Kunjungan. It is submitted to the length of stay reported. What they often do is to try to make you believe that the article 61 UU 9/1992 concerns STM and that you have to report every 30 days. This is bull****. Article 61 concerns people with an Ijin Tinggal, therefore not you who has an Ijin Kunjungan.
Another way to respond would be to remenber them that the validity of an Ijin Kunjungan is defined by the Pasal 35 ayat 1,2 and 3, Peraturan Pemerintah nomor 32 tahun 1994 and says that the Visit Permit is given for 60 days (ayat 1) from the date of entrance and can be renewed up to 5 times, each time for 30 days (ayat 2) providing that it is not an Ijin Kunjungan Wisata (ayat 3) which is valid only for 60 days and can not be extended. Therefore reporting a 6 months length of stay would not be illegal. It does not mean that the foreigner is gonna stay for 6 months, but that the person who is reporting him is ready to shelter him for 6 months.

So to the nice guys who throw books on the table, kindly ask them to read again their bloody book.

- If you are a KITAS/KITAP holder, report to the police for SKLD (30 days maximum after the issuance of your Ijin Tinggal) and report any change in your residency in the 7 days that it happened. Make sure that the person who provides you accomodation (even if it your wife/son or whoever in the family) report you in the 24 hours and have a STM remitted. You need to do it again only if you change for a new accomodation.
- If you are holder of an Ijin Kunjungan or VoA, you are only concerned by the STM in the conditions defined above...

Best is not to fight with them. Either, ignore what they tell you and just follow what the law says, or if you feel unconfortable with it, just report every month without giving any money (Since the STM absolutely does not have any legal fee, they will soon understand your point and ask you to come back only if you change residence...).

Hope that the above explanations are clear enough, but if it is not, feel free to ask more clarifications.

Good Day, I already got my complete documents for KITAS "Ijin tinggal"

I got my Kitas at Jakarta and currently now living in Semarang

My question, do i have to "lapor diri" at local police station/ polres at Semarang ? I already have SKLD

Some more, now i rent a house here and staying with my wife. Do my wife has to get the STM ?

Will appreciate very much if some one could answer my questions. Thanks