Well... IMHO... do one thing at a time.... close the case of the current KITAS/wife... return everything... KITAS, SKLD (all the documents containing the current wife's name)... fly out of the the country... get a Sosbud with the new wife as sponsor.... get married legally.. convert to a new KITAS with the new wife as sponsor..... etc etc...Originally Posted by Al.Gray
Legal fees should be standard... Rp.700k for KITAS + other miscellaneous fees... but other costs of the divorce may be high in terms of emotionally, physically and money...
If you married at the KUA (Muslim) , divorce at "Pengadilan Agama" (Religion Court) may cost as low as about Rp250.000 ( the case I know took just 3 weeks but the couple was already separated more than 3 years and there was no litigation ) . To marry at KUA , not sure yet as the officer said : "depends on how much documents you have" , but seems to be around Rp1 million .
Last edited by marcus; 06-02-10 at 18:53.
Unfortunately this procedure is not only for MERP but probably for everything . In my many years dealing sosbud extensions , they only ask me to pay before the boss sign the passport . Many times the boss was not at the office or the officer thought it would take long time , so I had to just do the payment and return the following day .
I would rather pay them the first day. If they refuse my application then they give it back with my passport the second and final day I go in. That would mean during the first extension they would have to walk 20 meters to the photographers room to confirm my photo was in the system and possibly make one photo copy of the stamp. Thats the reason they make me come in the second time and then the third.
Btw, know anyone who has ever been refused an extension on a Sosbud? Me neither.
Who wouldn't? It irritates me that they accepted my application today, come back the following day to just make a payment and back on another day to collect everything.......
The legal reasons for it are simple:
1. Any application is a "permohonan": it is a request which is made, and the acceptation or refusal come after assessment. In indonesian culture a prepayment would mean a de facto acceptation. And they for sure don't want it this way.
2. The payment must intervene after the assessment BUT before the final autorisation given by the KaKanIm because the payment is a legal condition for the issuance of an extension/a visa/ a permit...etc
The procedure is decribed as follow:
a. Application
b. Assessment
c. Payment
d. Autorisation/Issuance
Reimboursement of a fee would be a real headache from the little I know of the accountancy of penerimaan negara bukan pajak. (non fiscal income such as immigration fees or any legal fees levied by the various ministeries)
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I have been looking through the different threads, and I may have skimmed over some valuable information. However, I hope you don't mind if I ask my own question?
I am a Canadian living now in Vancouver, and my husband is an Indonesian citizen living/working in Bali. Joshira (my husband) has applied for Canadian Permanent Residence, but has to stay in Indonesia (or at least out of Can) for the duration of the application process. Since the application process may take up to 2 years to complete (it has been a few months already), I have decided to travel to Indonesia to wait with him for a few months to a year. I have my plane ticket already for the end of April and it is extendable for up to a year.
In August 2009, we were wed in Vancouver, Canada. It was a civil marriage. I understand that civil marriages are not recognized in Indonesia, however, Joshira and I registered it here at the Indonesian Consulate in Vancouver. I have the marriage certificate and it does not state what kind of marriage it was. My first question: are we legally married in Indonesia??
My second question is: what is the process for me to obtain a one year visa?
I have asked the Indonesian Consulate in Vancouver and they said that my husband needs to get a letter of approval from the Indonesian Government. Also, "ashayu" from the second page of this forum shared her experience and it looked similar to what we would have to go through (or so according to the consulate in Van). What exactly does my husband need to do in order to get that letter of approval, and who does he send it to?
Third question: how much will the whole process take? I read RP 7 00 000 ... is that approximately $80.00 USD? I saw on the Van website it was $120.00 for a non-working 1 year visa. That sounds good to me, but I just need to know how to get there...
And finalllly (sorry for all the questions), how long will the process to obtain the letter take? The Indo Consulate in Van said 2 working days for the actual processing (for their part).
I would really appreciate any help I could get (atlantis... looks like you have a reputation).
Thank you,
Charlotte
In 7 years dealing myself with all my extensions , they never refused any of my applications neither I ever heard about any person's application being refused .
Last edited by marcus; 18-02-10 at 19:13.
Yes, you are on your way to be legally married under Indonesian law. In a delay of 30 days after he returns to Indonesia, your husband will have to report the wedding to either tha Dinas kependudukan dan catatan sipil or the KUA (depending on his religion). It will complete the procedure and will open you rights to temporary residency.
Look at post #1 in this thread. Replace the word husband by "wife" and the word wife by "husban"d when you read them in the thread and you have it. It seems to me the more suitable in your situation. It leaves you a bit of time to evaluate if you want to stay up to or more than 1 year in Indonesia.
It is a slightly different way of getting temporary residency, by first seeking a VITAS from the embassy with the sponsorship of your husband and a prior agreement from the DitJenIm in JKT. After entering in Indonesia and receiving an entry stamp, you would have to organise your KITAS and all the necessary documents (SKLD, SKTT, buku POA) quite quickly. Not a good way to "acclimatise", imho.
Ashayu is a "he". Long hair tho'
More later...
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[QUOTE=atlantis;61195]
Yes, you are on your way to be legally married under Indonesian law. In a delay of 30 days after he returns to Indonesia, your husband will have to report the wedding to either tha Dinas kependudukan dan catatan sipil or the KUA (depending on his religion). It will complete the procedure and will open you rights to temporary residency.
Hmm, Jossie has been home since October 09. Does this mean that he can still report? He is Muslim, but he had a civil marriage in Canada... does this matter? To me it wouldn't, but obviously that doesn't count much...
Look at post #1 in this thread. Replace the word husband by "wife" and the word wife by "husban"d when you read them in the thread and you have it. It seems to me the more suitable in your situation. It leaves you a bit of time to evaluate if you want to stay up to or more than 1 year in Indonesia.
How long does this process take? How difficult?
It is a slightly different way of getting temporary residency, by first seeking a VITAS from the embassy with the sponsorship of your husband and a prior agreement from the DitJenIm in JKT. After entering in Indonesia and receiving an entry stamp, you would have to organise your KITAS and all the necessary documents (SKLD, SKTT, buku POA) quite quickly. Not a good way to "acclimatise", imho.
I agree, this doesn't sound like the best road to take. Plus, I just want to keep my options open really up to one year. However, we may just be in Indo for 4 months. It is really depending on the state of my VISA and the state of his PR to Canada.
Thanks for your help by the way
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