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    The head of the Northern Territory's AIDS and Hepatitis Council (NTAHC) has said she was left scared and surprised after being detained at Bali's main airport because she was bringing hundreds of condoms into Indonesia.
    NTAHC executive director Kim Gates said the incident early last month occurred when she was trying to take 720 condoms to an HIV organisation in Bali.
    At Denpasar Airport officials detained her and confiscated the condoms.
    "I have actually travelled with condoms before so I was actually quite surprised," Ms Gates said.
    "I was a little bit sort of scared. I didn't know what was going on."
    She said officials asked her if she had a permit for the condoms and said she had not declared them on her arrivals card.
    "Then they advised me that it is actually in the category of pornographic material, which I didn't think was the case," Ms Gates said.
    Ms Gates said it was important NTAHC's partner agencies in Bali received condoms because countries like Indonesia had high rates of HIV.
    "We know that a lot of Australians go there on holiday and here in the Northern Territory we see a lot of new cases of HIV coming in from overseas," she said.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-0...irport/7296804

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    I'm speechless. Is it the goal of those officials to look like utter buffoons, because if so they should be congratulated on their success.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by ScooterIndo View Post
      The head of the Northern Territory's AIDS and Hepatitis Council (NTAHC) has said she was left scared and surprised after being detained at Bali's main airport because she was bringing hundreds of condoms into Indonesia.
      NTAHC executive director Kim Gates said the incident early last month occurred when she was trying to take 720 condoms to an HIV organisation in Bali.
      At Denpasar Airport officials detained her and confiscated the condoms.
      "I have actually travelled with condoms before so I was actually quite surprised," Ms Gates said.
      "I was a little bit sort of scared. I didn't know what was going on."
      She said officials asked her if she had a permit for the condoms and said she had not declared them on her arrivals card.
      "Then they advised me that it is actually in the category of pornographic material, which I didn't think was the case," Ms Gates said.
      Ms Gates said it was important NTAHC's partner agencies in Bali received condoms because countries like Indonesia had high rates of HIV.
      "We know that a lot of Australians go there on holiday and here in the Northern Territory we see a lot of new cases of HIV coming in from overseas," she said.

      http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-0...irport/7296804
      Stupid quote about condoms being pornographic notwithstanding, why would anyone feel the need to bring 720 condoms to Bali? Condoms are literally for sale at every single mini-mart, warung and corner store here. It is pretty damn accessible.

      I don't think customs is entirely wrong in their action, since bringing goods in commercial quantities has to be declared.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dafluff View Post
        Stupid quote about condoms being pornographic notwithstanding, why would anyone feel the need to bring 720 condoms to Bali? Condoms are literally for sale at every single mini-mart, warung and corner store here. It is pretty damn accessible.

        I don't think customs is entirely wrong in their action, since bringing goods in commercial quantities has to be declared.
        Eminently sensible comment. At 80 cents a throw he would far exceed the 200 dollar limit. I'd be interested to know exactly what the customs official said.
        Last edited by johntap; 15-04-16, 18:52. Reason: he not she

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        • #5
          Surely they are only "commercial" if the plan is to sell them.

          And honestly, 720? A drop in the bucket. Unless people in Bali are not having much sex, it wouldn't take long at all to use up that many.

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          • #6
            Governments of all persuasions don't like it when 720 of the same thing are brought in by one person. Except perhaps matchsticks.

            I see a parallel with doing voluntary work here. It upsets the equilibrium. And from what I read here from time to time, hapless intending volunteers who enquire on LII are given stern warnings about the laws.

            I just gotta add, that I don't think the usual excuse that "they're for personal use" will hold water here. And, it would be even harder to convince the officers that were used, not new and saleable.
            Last edited by johntap; 15-04-16, 23:25.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by johntap View Post
              Eminently sensible comment. At 80 cents a throw he would far exceed the 200 dollar limit. I'd be interested to know exactly what the customs official said.
              Who buys bulk condoms for 80 cents each?

              You can find 1000 packs on Amazon.com for $120. I'd guess that they are even likely donated by the manufacturer or government.
              Sasa Bule is having a bayi!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by johntap View Post
                Governments of all persuasions don't like it when 720 of the same thing are brought in by one person.
                True enough, and if I were to bring in, say, 720 washcloths, I might expect customs to object. However, if they called the washcloths "pornographic" I'd think they were being stupid.

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                • #9
                  I'm not sure exactly where to weigh in on this issue. But to borrow a phrase from Kotter's Horshack, it's probably a good thing Ms. Gates did not tell them "Up your nose with a rubber hose" ...
                  [FONT=Comic Sans MS]Warden: "What we got here ... is failure to communicate."

                  The Dude: "Oh yeah? Well that's just, like, your opinion, man."[/FONT]

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Puspawarna View Post
                    True enough, and if I were to bring in, say, 720 washcloths, I might expect customs to object. However, if they called the washcloths "pornographic" I'd think they were being stupid.
                    My point was, did they really say that? I gotta believe they're smarter than that.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by johntap View Post
                      My point was, did they really say that? I gotta believe they're smarter than that.
                      It's possible Kim Gates is lying, but I gotta believe SHE'S smarter than that.

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                      • #12
                        Fair enough. It's just that I feel it's better to believe in the system(s), than not. Mind you, I got totally taken for a ride in a Gamya taxi this morning, on way to bandara.

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                        • #13
                          Most low level Indonesians wouldn't pay 80cents for a pack of condoms, hence the reason the Northern territories aids charity was bringing them to Bali for free distribution through its partner charity here. We are talking about helping the prevention of HIV AIDS amongst the poorer classes here. How ridiculously stupid can anyone be as to categorize them as pornographic material. So to use their mentality, does than mean they also class tampons in the same category as a dildo ??

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by johntap View Post
                            Fair enough. It's just that I feel it's better to believe in the system(s), than not. Mind you, I got totally taken for a ride in a Gamya taxi this morning, on way to bandara.
                            Never mind the blood on my chin, I'm just biting my tongue kind of hard

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                            • #15
                              I briefly went to customs website. INTR / INSW
                              it stated condoms imports has 10% import duty & most importantly, they need a permit from ministry of health before you can import them. No permit = confiscated

                              On the outset of thoughts : if Mrs. Gates declared those 720 condoms are for personal use (to avoid both rules above), customs (or anyone else) will think she is planning a huge orgy party which is in the range of pornographic materials
                              Last edited by Yingyang; 16-04-16, 10:06.
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