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  • #16
    Originally posted by ScooterIndo View Post
    As for the porn - he is still on probation after getting busted watching "busty Japanese girls in micro bikinis" by his mum. She has threatened to take his Ipad and Laptop off him for six months if she ever finds evidence of that sort of thing again and the thought of being without an Ipad for six months has put the fear of death into him.
    I think not. Hormones trump the fear of death -- or God -- every time.

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    • #17
      Kids use cellphones to stay in contact with their parents and in the event of an emergency. Amazing this was proposed by an agency that's supposed to promote children's welfare. Cellphones for kids helps educate children and gives them access to the outside world which is something many kids, isolated in family units and schools are totally cut off from; the smartphone has done more to humanize and for children's rights than any other invention in history.

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      • #18
        Children around the world are growing up as "digital natives", but now the government wants to take gadgets out of children's hands in Indonesia. This strikes me as having the potential consequence of putting Indonesian kids at a significant disadvantage when competing in an increasingly digital world. Plus, I am tired of seeing children used as political pawns.
        This space is available for rent.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by nd_eric_77 View Post
          Children around the world are growing up as "digital natives", but now the government wants to take gadgets out of children's hands in Indonesia. This strikes me as having the potential consequence of putting Indonesian kids at a significant disadvantage when competing in an increasingly digital world. Plus, I am tired of seeing children used as political pawns.
          From your use of the expression "digital natives" It sounds like our kids go to the same school - you know the one. I hadn't even considered the potential impact of such a ban on such a progressive learning institution. I will be inclined to put this regulation on the ignore list as its both idiotic and just plain misguided to deny a young mind access to the greatest source of information ever known to mankind because of pornography. That's the same short sighted mentality as denying your child food, on the pretext of preventing potential dental visits.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ScooterIndo View Post
            ....... That's the same short sighted mentality as denying your child food, on the pretext of preventing potential dental visits.
            Fair point on the digital world. But on the analogy, others *might* say 'That's the same short sighted mentality as smoking a cigarette, on the pretext of imagining a long life and a peaceful painless death.'
            ETA. I am just trying to say that arguing by analogy isn't always enough.
            Last edited by johntap; 29-05-15, 13:38.

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            • #21
              I agree with some readers here. Why Indonesia doesn't ban kids on motorcycles? Like in Europe there is min. age when you can start driving mopped motorcycle (14??? 16 years?? not sure) + some head cover and mostly with "hard to get" driving licences.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by johntap View Post
                Fair point on the digital world. But on the analogy, others *might* say 'That's the same short sighted mentality as smoking a cigarette, on the pretext of imagining a long life and a peaceful painless death.'
                ETA. I am just trying to say that arguing by analogy isn't always enough.
                And this is your contribution to the topic ??
                Take a day off for fucks sake mate

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ScooterIndo View Post
                  And this is your contribution to the topic ??
                  Take a day off for fucks sake mate
                  Thanks for the advice. I assume you didn't enjoy the analogy?

                  ETA: Perhaps I should explain.

                  [COLOR=#333333]My crude analogy was my way of saying that I just don't understand how a loving father can do (and write) the following, and be so blase about it:

                  [/COLOR]As I type this my 10 year old has just walked in with the cigarettes I sent him out to buy.

                  May 31st is World No Tobacco Day. Some estimate 500 000 will die due to passive smoking in the next 365 days. Some of the energy spent on locking up alcoholic drinks might be better directed at locking up cigarettes, and banning advertising on billboards and TV
                  Last edited by johntap; 30-05-15, 07:37. Reason: wrong date

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                  • #24
                    Hi all,
                    Indonesian Govt should not ban young kids with phones, It should educate the parents, students and schools about negative effects of gadgets abuse.

                    [COLOR=#202022][FONT=Georgia]SAN FRANCISCO -- As our obsession with our gadgets grows, more doctors are seeing a painful phenomenon known as "text neck."
                    The pain is a result of constantly looking down at electronic gadgets. According to the marketing agency Tecmark, people pick up their cellphones about 1,500 times a week, which means more people are feeling the strain, CBS San Franciscoreports.
                    Dr. Robert Markison, a clinical professor of surgery at the University of California San Francisco, said we need to get smarter about using our smart devices.
                    "The theme of ergonomics is to bring objects to you as you assume proper posture rather than you bending over into them," Markison told KPIX.

                    Markison said even bending our heads at a slight angle could have major effects. On average, our heads weigh 10 to 12 pounds. At an angle of 15 degrees, gravity makes it feel like 27 pounds. At 60 degrees, where most of us bend our heads to our phones, it feels like 60 pounds hanging on your neck.
                    Dr. Kenneth Hansraj, chief of spine surgery at New York Spine Surgery and Rehabilitation Medicine, wrote about the phenomenon in Surgical Technology International last year, and warned it could lead to long-term problems.
                    "Loss of the natural curve of the cervical spine leads to incrementally increased stresses about the cervical spine. These stresses may lead to early wear, tear, degeneration and possibly surgeries," his study found.
                    And Markinson says it's not just the neck we have to worry about. "It's a big system from brain to fingertips that we're trying to preserve," he said.
                    [COLOR=black][FONT=nimbus-sans] DR. KENNETH HANSRAJ/SURGICAL TECHNOLOGY INTERNATIONAL[/FONT][/COLOR]
                    In addition to chronic neck and back pain, bad posture has been linked to a host of other medical problems, including headaches and other neurological problems, depression, constipation, and even heart disease.
                    This is why the experts say it's important to be mindful of your smartphone posture.
                    "While it is nearly impossible to avoid the technologies that cause these issues, individuals should make an effort to look at their phones with a neutral spine and to avoid spending hours each day hunched over," Hansraj's study advises.
                    [/FONT][/COLOR]
                    [COLOR=#202022][FONT=Georgia]© 2015 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.[/FONT][/COLOR]
                    [COLOR=#202022][FONT=Helvetica]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/too-much...n-in-the-neck/[/FONT][/COLOR]

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by fransgg View Post
                      Hi all,
                      Indonesian Govt should not ban young kids with phones, It should educate the parents, students and schools about negative effects of gadgets abuse.

                      [COLOR=#202022][FONT=Georgia]SAN FRANCISCO -- As our obsession with our gadgets grows, more doctors are seeing a painful phenomenon known as "text neck."
                      The pain is a result of constantly looking down at electronic gadgets. According to the marketing agency Tecmark, people pick up their cellphones about 1,500 times a week, which means more people are feeling the strain, CBS San Franciscoreports.
                      Dr. Robert Markison, a clinical professor of surgery at the University of California San Francisco, said we need to get smarter about using our smart devices.
                      "The theme of ergonomics is to bring objects to you as you assume proper posture rather than you bending over into them," Markison told KPIX.

                      Markison said even bending our heads at a slight angle could have major effects. On average, our heads weigh 10 to 12 pounds. At an angle of 15 degrees, gravity makes it feel like 27 pounds. At 60 degrees, where most of us bend our heads to our phones, it feels like 60 pounds hanging on your neck.
                      Dr. Kenneth Hansraj, chief of spine surgery at New York Spine Surgery and Rehabilitation Medicine, wrote about the phenomenon in Surgical Technology International last year, and warned it could lead to long-term problems.
                      "Loss of the natural curve of the cervical spine leads to incrementally increased stresses about the cervical spine. These stresses may lead to early wear, tear, degeneration and possibly surgeries," his study found.
                      And Markinson says it's not just the neck we have to worry about. "It's a big system from brain to fingertips that we're trying to preserve," he said.
                      [COLOR=black][FONT=nimbus-sans] DR. KENNETH HANSRAJ/SURGICAL TECHNOLOGY INTERNATIONAL[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      In addition to chronic neck and back pain, bad posture has been linked to a host of other medical problems, including headaches and other neurological problems, depression, constipation, and even heart disease.
                      This is why the experts say it's important to be mindful of your smartphone posture.
                      "While it is nearly impossible to avoid the technologies that cause these issues, individuals should make an effort to look at their phones with a neutral spine and to avoid spending hours each day hunched over," Hansraj's study advises.
                      [/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#202022][FONT=Georgia]© 2015 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      [COLOR=#202022][FONT=Helvetica]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/too-much...n-in-the-neck/[/FONT][/COLOR]
                      But this "text neck" could also be said about a lot of other things. Such as school work at desks, writing by hand, reading a newspaper or book, preparing food, mopping or sweeping a floor, playing chess or other board games, making a coffee, looking at a map, gardening and the one I would never, ever give up - playing guitar

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                      • #26
                        Is that known as "guitar neck" ?

                        & what about drawing? .... maybe that's called "Pencil neck" .... lol
                        The answer is 42 .... any questions? .

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                        • #27
                          The answer to that problem is this gimmick. I mean the neck problem.

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                          Last edited by Chotto Matte; 30-05-15, 10:54.
                          [FONT=comic sans ms]Please excuse my poor English. [/FONT]

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                          • #28
                            I thought it just made you blind?
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