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    Originally posted by Kobe Oser View Post
    Dear participant,

    We suggest you dig in your history on the 1945 Atjeh till Ambon Proklamasi a little deeper, it's true.
    Furthermore we are aware of the song you are referring to, as one should know their enemy, but we dislike it.
    LOL, again do not make-up fantasy stories just because you cannot find facts to back-up your propaganda. With this type of childish lies, no wonder you cannot even influence Papua New Guinea and Fiji.

    We believe the Roadmap as pointed out earlier by us is a clear route, also for Freeports interest in West Papua Melanesia.
    With only the arguments as posted earlier by us, this causes enough stress in RI-'s foreign policy to assure themselves over and over again of US backing, but for how long will this last as the problems at Freeport are becoming to big for RI Generals to handle? We're welcoming the alternative.
    LOL, even fellow-Melanesian Papua New Guinea or Fiji do not want to have anything to do with your "movement", I guess you must be day-dreaming in being able to "influence" superpower like United States. Obama thinks highly and continuously praise Indonesia, while your separatist movement is not even worth one second of his thought.

    Again, face reality instead of dwelling in your fantasy world full of childish imaginations.

    As the Netherlands come to terms with their past, now is the time for them to remind RI at the international platform on the wrongfull implementation of the international 1962 New York Agreement.
    LOL, Netherlands is indeed coming to terms with their brutal colonial past in Indonesia, by apologising and paying Indonesian widows of the Rawagede Massacre of 1947. This is some measure to return the wealth robbed by the Dutch from Indonesia for centuries.

    Again, do not scavenge from the dustbin of history. In accordance to UN General Assembly Resolution, the 1962 New York Agreement has been fully implemented. Compared with the UN, I guess your "opinion" on this matter is quite worthless.

    Are you justifiying by using this bold language and stressed out RI victory Nation building history statements, the way RI is currently being governed? How can you deny the fact that the current RI governance, including the state terror against Papuans in their own land, can only be uphold with a US backing up this brutal regime? Our guess is that he world has finally woken up to RI's true face, for nevertheless we have to conclude you must be in Dreamland, but we still would like to give it another effort to convince you on the justified West Papua's Merdeka 100% aim. We advice you to check below information inorder to have a reality check on current events
    LOL, it seems that you are somehow trying to threaten us with "foreign intervention". Let me give you some dose of reality to wake you up from your childish dreamland:

    OBAMA SAYS INDONESIA'S UNITY AN INSPIRATION TO THE WORLD:
    http://archive.hurriyetdailynews.com...rld-2010-11-10

    US DEFENSE SECRETARY LEON PANETTA BACKED INDONESIAN STAND AGAINST PAPUAN INDEPENDENCE:
    http://www.voanews.com/english/news/...132526368.html

    OBAMA HAILS INDONESIA'S HARMONY AS EXAMPLE TO THE WORLD:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11723650

    OBAMA EYES A BOOMING INDONESIA TO CREATE JOBS IN AMERICA:
    http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-...jobs-in-the-US

    MELANESIAN SPEARHEAD GROUP FAILED TO INVITE WEST PAPUAN "DELEGATION", BUT INDONESIA INVITED TO MELANESIAN SPEARHEAD GROUP BY PAPUA NEW GUINEA AND FIJI:
    http://australianetworknews.com/stor...05.htm?desktop

    So, let's compare which opinion is valid.

    1) Indonesia is the 14th largest economy in the world, with 4th largest population in the world. It has high growth rate despite global economic downturn.
    2) In terms of relation with Papua, Indonesia's territorial integrity is acknowledged by every country in the world and the UN.
    3) Indonesia has strong control over Papua since most of Indonesia's government officials there are ethnic-Papuans themselves.
    4) Indonesia has very bright and friendly relationship with every country in the world, from United States (Obama is a fan of Indonesia) to Europe to Asia-Africa countries.
    5) Other than the small separatist movement in Papua, Indonesia faces no other separatist movements and even has successfully neutralise dangerous Islamic terrorists.

    Meanwhile, let's see how the separatist movement is faring:
    1) They failed to get any international support despite 50 years of desperate "efforts" trying
    2) They do not have any "military" power to threaten Indonesia's de-facto control over Papua
    3) By 2020, 70% of Papua's population would be Western Indonesians and ethnic-Papuans will be irreversibly changed into minority status

    As such, I believe it is valid to conclude that the time for the bankrupt and failed ideology of separatism is over.

    I believe Indonesia has no reason to even care or pay any attention to the weakling and desperate Papuan separatism. Again, wake-up and smell the coffee. Stop dwelling in your own fantasy world.

    See link: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-12-0...?section=world

    With the ABC article above, our guess is that RI's state departement diplomatic attemps with promising lies to keep the world opinion happy by maybe allowing international observers entrance to the Papuan territory.
    LOL, the vice-president is simply answering a question in a press conference that "there is no issue in Papua" and foreign observers is always free to enter Papua since there is nothing to hide.

    Along with propganda statements, this will probably all that is left, once US backing is runnin'out for the FAILED and CORRUPT RI Democracy with its Good Governance. We just a few of these newsarticles and links, we're quite sure that Indonesia's time in West Papua Melanesia is runnin'out. Desperately keeping the international West Papua as an internal RI matter will be a NOT SO in your case.
    LOL, you are really delusional. Your entire "strategy" is based on a combination of wishful thinking, scavenging of history for irrelevant and inane events, and denial of facts. I guess you will just continue being the loser your movement has always been for the past 50 years. LOL.

    For now, let's keep the eye on the ball, by advising from an international perspective the still standing question: So, when do we fix Papua?

    Insja Allah Na Kores Kaku Ra Refo!

    Setia Djudjur Mesra
    LOL, as I said before, wake-up and smell the coffee. Your movement is doomed for failure due to lack of realistic strategy and too much childish wishful thinking.

    You can continue screaming until your mouth is foamy, but in the end Papua will remain part of Indonesia.

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    • #17
      HARI NASIONAL of West Papua Melanesia, festivities on 1 December 2014: A New Dawn

      Originally posted by purnomor View Post
      LOL, again do not make-up fantasy stories just because you cannot find facts to back-up your propaganda. With this type of childish lies, no wonder you cannot even influence Papua New Guinea and Fiji.



      LOL, even fellow-Melanesian Papua New Guinea or Fiji do not want to have anything to do with your "movement", I guess you must be day-dreaming in being able to "influence" superpower like United States. Obama thinks highly and continuously praise Indonesia, while your separatist movement is not even worth one second of his thought.

      Again, face reality instead of dwelling in your fantasy world full of childish imaginations.



      LOL, Netherlands is indeed coming to terms with their brutal colonial past in Indonesia, by apologising and paying Indonesian widows of the Rawagede Massacre of 1947. This is some measure to return the wealth robbed by the Dutch from Indonesia for centuries.

      Again, do not scavenge from the dustbin of history. In accordance to UN General Assembly Resolution, the 1962 New York Agreement has been fully implemented. Compared with the UN, I guess your "opinion" on this matter is quite worthless.



      LOL, it seems that you are somehow trying to threaten us with "foreign intervention". Let me give you some dose of reality to wake you up from your childish dreamland:

      OBAMA SAYS INDONESIA'S UNITY AN INSPIRATION TO THE WORLD:
      http://archive.hurriyetdailynews.com...rld-2010-11-10

      US DEFENSE SECRETARY LEON PANETTA BACKED INDONESIAN STAND AGAINST PAPUAN INDEPENDENCE:
      http://www.voanews.com/english/news/...132526368.html

      OBAMA HAILS INDONESIA'S HARMONY AS EXAMPLE TO THE WORLD:
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11723650

      OBAMA EYES A BOOMING INDONESIA TO CREATE JOBS IN AMERICA:
      http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-...jobs-in-the-US

      MELANESIAN SPEARHEAD GROUP FAILED TO INVITE WEST PAPUAN "DELEGATION", BUT INDONESIA INVITED TO MELANESIAN SPEARHEAD GROUP BY PAPUA NEW GUINEA AND FIJI:
      http://australianetworknews.com/stor...05.htm?desktop

      So, let's compare which opinion is valid.

      1) Indonesia is the 14th largest economy in the world, with 4th largest population in the world. It has high growth rate despite global economic downturn.
      2) In terms of relation with Papua, Indonesia's territorial integrity is acknowledged by every country in the world and the UN.
      3) Indonesia has strong control over Papua since most of Indonesia's government officials there are ethnic-Papuans themselves.
      4) Indonesia has very bright and friendly relationship with every country in the world, from United States (Obama is a fan of Indonesia) to Europe to Asia-Africa countries.
      5) Other than the small separatist movement in Papua, Indonesia faces no other separatist movements and even has successfully neutralise dangerous Islamic terrorists.

      Meanwhile, let's see how the separatist movement is faring:
      1) They failed to get any international support despite 50 years of desperate "efforts" trying
      2) They do not have any "military" power to threaten Indonesia's de-facto control over Papua
      3) By 2020, 70% of Papua's population would be Western Indonesians and ethnic-Papuans will be irreversibly changed into minority status

      As such, I believe it is valid to conclude that the time for the bankrupt and failed ideology of separatism is over.

      I believe Indonesia has no reason to even care or pay any attention to the weakling and desperate Papuan separatism. Again, wake-up and smell the coffee. Stop dwelling in your own fantasy world.



      LOL, the vice-president is simply answering a question in a press conference that "there is no issue in Papua" and foreign observers is always free to enter Papua since there is nothing to hide.



      LOL, you are really delusional. Your entire "strategy" is based on a combination of wishful thinking, scavenging of history for irrelevant and inane events, and denial of facts. I guess you will just continue being the loser your movement has always been for the past 50 years. LOL.



      LOL, as I said before, wake-up and smell the coffee. Your movement is doomed for failure due to lack of realistic strategy and too much childish wishful thinking.

      You can continue screaming until your mouth is foamy, but in the end Papua will remain part of Indonesia.
      Dear participants and contributor Purnomor,


      Everybody in our neighbouring RI nation congratulations with West Papua Melanesia's First of December National Day! For festivities please come and visit our beautiful island today (no arms or weapons allowed).


      With above comments on our latest calls and posts, we are actually embarrassed, that reactions from people at this forum are based on the viewing point that RI knows what's best for West Papua Melanesia, or offers solution thinking from a narrow minded RI stance of helping out poor Papuans?
      Please see answers on our latest posts:
      http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.or...Alliance/page5

      As we are inhabitants of a resource rich island, we don't think that RI minded people can offer any better answers on our questions then the ones (including the ones with bullet holes) which have been given to us in the past fifty years.

      As it was in an international trade that our people were sold to RI, we are fully confident that an international trade back will recover West Papua Melanesia's stolen right to independence.


      For those in RI who are not fully informed on the the international conflict RI has with West Papua/ Melanesia, we can inform you that the West Papua Merdeka train is runnin' please see yesterday's article:


      http://www.theage.com.au/world/indon...30-11x0fs.html


      The 1963 handover over West Papua NOT BY FORCE to the barbaric RI regime. Historical evidence of West Papua's STOLEN right of self-determination through decolonisation.


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtFO0n8pfCc


      As well as this historical article on last minute Soviet Union retreat in August 1962 from West Papua's shore prior to the signing of the illegal 1962 New York Agreement.


      http://kobe-oser.nl/?p=350


      And of course the overwhelming support of the civil society which even reached the wider audience, as we from West Papua simple cannot be qualified as separatists.


      http://www.isolated.tv/index.html


      Inorder to be separated, one needs to be One at first. West Papua Melanesia has never had anything to do with RI its Pancasila or it's so called Bhinekka Tungal Ika. RI is urged not to trouble West Papua Melanesia any longer with these ideologies, as we believe Jokowi /JK have enough domestic troubles of their own. Our advice remains practical: RI please travel light towards being a great economic world power, by cutting loose West Papua Melanesia!





      We urge you all to share wide and fair our roadmap to West Papua's Self determination mentioned in earlier posts and threads. Let's gain awareness to get the Melanesian nation of West Papua back on the UN C-24 list! Thank You.

      Insja Allah / Na Kores Kaku Ra Refo!
      Setia Djudjur Mesra / Trouw, Eerlijk, Innig Verbonden

      Kind regards,

      Kobe Oser/ Unity

      --------------------------------------------

      “Build your opponent a golden bridge to retreat across.”

      ― Sun Tzu

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