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  • Brtcbbrtcb
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    Hey!
    So as the title suggests, I'm Owen Daniel lukman Indonesian 24 years of age and gay. I'm looking to meet or befriend with anyone. Gay too ofc jst for fun then might go to next step 

    If somebody intrested please contact 
    081288479948
    p.s: I'm not after your money, am good on my own^^
     

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  • iman sulaiman
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    hi, salam kenal robert 081281500041. just call me to know each other. thanks

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  • ScooterIndo
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    Personally I am secure in my own sexuality therefore I am not intimidated by Gay people, neither do I hate them for any reason. Like you mentioned in a earlier post a lot of people are more transfixed on the gay sex aspect of being gay and are unable to look beyond that to the fact that like everyone else, gay people also want loving relationships, security and respect just like the rest of us.

    I have always thought that the type of guys that perpetuate hate and violence against gays are either really insecure about their own sexuality (takut suka) or have something to hide. I have a few gay friends here in Bali and its no big deal so if you ever come down this way drop me a line.

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  • naughtygab
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    ha ha ha... wait up... hmm might be true ...
    Originally posted by jstar View Post
    Didit? Is that you?

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  • jstar
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    ....... and also I live in a "masculine" environment, Dad used to work in army and eventually achieved a quite high rank......when I told my family I didn't want to be a lawyer and wanted to be fashion designer everyone in my house went crazy about it. My dad was so close from having nervous breakdown....
    Didit? Is that you?

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  • ahmad88boy
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    Hi, I Ahmad

    More friend and fun call me (+62) 81283837133 or (+62) 81283837233 (serious only) catch me babe. 24 hours and i am gay. see u. i am living on BALI.

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  • jimmi james
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    Looking or selling? Male, female or both


    But either option on a two year old thread is somewhat optimistic.

    you might find better luck starting a new thread and adding some detail. Just a thought.

    And I'd be slightly more circumspect about using your personal email and phone numbers too.

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  • cranstontan
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    Hi I'm available. You could message me at [email protected] or (65) 9777 8006 or (65) 9115 7831

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  • iman sulaiman
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    hi to all gays are welcome to be my friend...

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  • imponderablefun
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    Originally posted by mizzou View Post
    Imponderablefun, you're undoubtedly a very intelligent person and you have a bright future ahead of you. I wish I was as focused as you. I'd say, keep that focus, but don't forget to have fun. I found that as I became more comfortable in my own skin, my friends and family could sense that as well. Though they don't like to talk about it, they respect me and my choices. If someone loves you, he/she will come around. If not, they're the ones who are missing out Obviously, it's more complicated than that, but I hope that's encouraging.
    Wow thanks a lot. I'm definitely not this serious in real life, a very laid back person actually

    And we should definitely hang out to celebrate Mizzou arrival yay!!

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  • mizzou
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    This thread is getting deep. Deliverypasta, your story is quite moving. I secretly envy you, but more importantly I'm happy for you. The universe has a way of making things work out when we're just open to opportunities. And yes, ditto on the coffee and/or a night out, Sweetmaria. I'll be in Jakarta in June [new to town, definitely expecting a massive culture shock, looking for friends ].

    Imponderablefun, you're undoubtedly a very intelligent person and you have a bright future ahead of you. I wish I was as focused as you. I'd say, keep that focus, but don't forget to have fun. I found that as I became more comfortable in my own skin, my friends and family could sense that as well. Though they don't like to talk about it, they respect me and my choices. If someone loves you, he/she will come around. If not, they're the ones who are missing out Obviously, it's more complicated than that, but I hope that's encouraging.

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  • Debora
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    Welcome to the forum.

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  • imponderablefun
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    Thanks Deliverypasta and Sweetmaria for sharing. And for Deliverypasta, I didn't feel offended in any way, just wanted to share

    I can very much relate to your situation, deliverypasta. My family also muslim extremist, and also I live in a "masculine" environment, Dad used to work in army and eventually achieved a quite high rank, and my only sibling, my older brother is a police man. Last year, when I told my family I didn't want to be a lawyer and wanted to be fashion designer everyone in my house went crazy about it. My dad was so close from having nervous breakdown, my brother stopped talking to me, the rest of family member thought I was being put under some sort of black magic chanted by evil people (yes this actually happened, and I LOL-ed. They even gave me talisman). They think all designer dressed and behave like Ivan Gunawan (I'm not that effeminate), that's why they were scared to death. I can't imagine if I came out to them, that's why I'm really looking forward to get out here and pursue study abroad and eventually live there. At least if I ever came out, I'd only tell my dad and the rest of family doesn't have to know. But reading yours and Sweetmaria post definitely open up my perspective though in a way.

    Also, yeah we should hang out sometime for coffee or lunch or whatever, Deliverypasta. Where do you live in Jakarta?

    As to your story, Sweetmaria, I realise that. Especially when you want to have kids, it is impossible to have it here. Also I watched this video on Youtube that made me realise the importance of legal right for homosexual couple, and basically it's the one that made me want to move abroad. check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR9gyloyOjM

    Also for the sushi girls night out, yeah hope all the girls don't matter if me and Deliverypasta joined you
    Last edited by imponderablefun; 19-05-12, 12:15.

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  • sweetmaria
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    Did anyone say coffee???????


    Hi imponderablefun, first of all, welcome to the forum. I happen to have tonnes of gay men and women in my circle, mostly due to my open-mindedness in your own sexual preference.

    My personal experience also told me that gays makes a better friend than diamonds. Diamonds can't talk back at me to remind me how ridiculous I look in that dress.

    As I always say to my female friends (and the male ones), every one has their own time and only fools rush in. You're still young (and I envy your youth) live your life.

    Indonesian parents might still find it difficult to accept that their children doesn't fancy the opposite sex, and if you want to settle and have a family, I'm afraid you can't be wedded here. I know a gay couple in yogya who went to NL to get married and come back to yogya to live. Their neighbours think that they're just "friends".

    Anyway, I hope that the girls would agree to include you (and deliverypasta, maybe) for our girls night out.

    Cheers.

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  • deliverypasta
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    ^^^
    Ahh ic. First, sorry to hear about ur mom.

    I dont know everything in life and im sorry im sorry im sorry if im wrong or by any case i offend you or by any means im getting it wrong. but as you lied to your father about your true intention of living abroad to get his money so you can be financially supported living abroad. Errrr.. and youre planning to get his trust?

    When I first came out to my family I got cut off from my family financially and emotionally. My sister didnt talked to me for over a year. They lied about my existence to relatives by saying i become a sailor. I lived in 750rb/month room with shared bathroom. I only have 2 towel and jobless for several month due to stress. I'm selling my laptop in the middle of the month so I can pay my room and survive for several more months as im building back my life. But one thing Im sure when I looked back. I took a leap of faith and be true to myself.
    Im switching jobs and meet my partner in a locker room from one of pool apartment near my place (i didnt lived there but i can always get in easily, its the attitude u wear not the access card you have), trading phone number, start dating (yes with a lot of sex-why am i telling you this? okay next), falling in love. He somehow manage to bring the best in me. In no time, I introduced him to my family and we reconnect. He introduced me to his last xmas when theyre visitting jakarta. I got better job, i got an eight digit salary with extra income from tutoring bahasa indonesia on afterhour and baby sitting (yes lol im still baby sitting). We lived together in jakarta but before that I have my own place (a kost room with ac, hot water, cleaning service, cable tv and free drinking water at a prime location in jakarta selatan), a gym membership, several gadget that i always wanted, a credit card from my own name (not an extra card from parents) and a travel itinerary all across indonesia, asia, and europe till the end of the year.

    Ok yes im gonna stop, its not about my life. Im just sharing a life exp. I could have lied to my family (iam originated from makassar, my dad is a moslem extremist, my grandpa is a famous religious man in his village. They threat to kill me and I swear I think they might do it for real when they find out that im gay-really stress me out).

    I hope this can be somehow open your point of view into something new.
    I lived in jakarta. available for coffee. text me your phone number if you need a friend. xx
    Last edited by deliverypasta; 19-05-12, 02:35. Reason: endings

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