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    Accordingly circular letter #4,new entry rules being implemented forWNA( Kitas) and WNI on arr. frorm abroad to S.Hatta Intern. airport. Does anyone have any info to share re.entry experience/hotel distribution & stay for 5 days quarantine....It has been 3rd day now this new regulation is been in work (5 day quarantine at designated hotel, 2 x PCR test).... I have scheduled to fly to Jkt from Amsterdam on 6 Jan. Wondering whether it'll be better to change flight for after 14 Jan?...Any advice or tip would be highly apprecaited. Thank you, Happy & good 2021 new Year to ALL !

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    Unless extremely necessary , I would not come to Jakarta this month .
    Last edited by marcus; 2 weeks ago.

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    • #3
      From https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...-19-cases.html (03 Jan 2021)
      The Jakarta Post
      Title : Hospitals, cemeteries overwhelmed as Jakarta faces new spike in COVID-19 cases
      By : Ardila Syakriah

      [... On Dec. 28, the number reached a record-high 101 burials. Daily cases in the city had been hitting the four digits since early December, at least four times reaching over 2,000 per day. Positivity rates, meaning the share of tests that came back positive and which should ideally be at below 5 percent per the World Health Organization (WHO), have ranged between 10 and 17 percent since mid-December. High positivity rates, according to experts, are a sign of insufficient testing and wide transmission of the virus...

      The Indonesian Hospital Association's (PERSI) Jakarta chapter chairman, Koesmedi Priharto, said hospitals had seen increasing bed occupancy rates. He said that the city administration could easily add more beds, but ensuring there would be enough medical workers was "impossible"...

      Jakarta's real-time data as of Saturday showed that of 361 intensive care unit (ICU) beds with ventilators for COVID-19 patients, 266 of them of negative pressure, only 53 beds were left--an 85.3% occupancy rate... state-run Cipto Mangunkusumo Hospital (RSCM), had 146 of its 192 beds for COVID-19 occupied on Saturday, while there were still patients in the emergency room waiting to be admitted to the wards, the hospital's spokesperson Sumariyono said. He said that the occupancy rate for adult ICUs was at 95% ...

      Concerns are high that the long year-end holiday will increase the burden on the already stretched healthcare system. The Jakarta administration said that following the long holidays in August and October, cases increased by 77.3% and 59.6%, respectively ...]

       

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      • #4
        So besides full hospitals , and a expected surge in infected people after this new year holidays , we are here in high risk to die if infected . Statists from May showed fatality rate of 15% for people less than 45 y.o. , fatality rate of 40% for people between 46 and 59 , and fatality rate of 45% for people older than 60 (according to https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...ostviewed&pg=/).
        Last edited by marcus; 2 weeks ago.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by marcus View Post
          Unless extremely necessary , I would not come to Jakarta this month .
          Thank you very much, noted all info...sad to learn the situation is such...decided to change my flight date...Praying for the best for all...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by marcus View Post
            So besides full hospitals , and a expected surge in infected people after this new year holidays , we are here in high risk to die if infected . Statists from May showed fatality rate of 15% for people less than 45 y.o. , fatality rate of 40% for people between 46 and 59 , and fatality rate of 45% for people older than 60 (according to https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...ostviewed&pg=/).
            ooo...thought provoking...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by marcus View Post
              From https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...-19-cases.html (03 Jan 2021)
              The Jakarta Post
              Title : Hospitals, cemeteries overwhelmed as Jakarta faces new spike in COVID-19 cases
              By : Ardila Syakriah

              [... On Dec. 28, the number reached a record-high 101 burials. Daily cases in the city had been hitting the four digits since early December, at least four times reaching over 2,000 per day. Positivity rates, meaning the share of tests that came back positive and which should ideally be at below 5 percent per the World Health Organization (WHO), have ranged between 10 and 17 percent since mid-December. High positivity rates, according to experts, are a sign of insufficient testing and wide transmission of the virus...

              The Indonesian Hospital Association's (PERSI) Jakarta chapter chairman, Koesmedi Priharto, said hospitals had seen increasing bed occupancy rates. He said that the city administration could easily add more beds, but ensuring there would be enough medical workers was "impossible"...

              Jakarta's real-time data as of Saturday showed that of 361 intensive care unit (ICU) beds with ventilators for COVID-19 patients, 266 of them of negative pressure, only 53 beds were left--an 85.3% occupancy rate... state-run Cipto Mangunkusumo Hospital (RSCM), had 146 of its 192 beds for COVID-19 occupied on Saturday, while there were still patients in the emergency room waiting to be admitted to the wards, the hospital's spokesperson Sumariyono said. He said that the occupancy rate for adult ICUs was at 95% ...

              Concerns are high that the long year-end holiday will increase the burden on the already stretched healthcare system. The Jakarta administration said that following the long holidays in August and October, cases increased by 77.3% and 59.6%, respectively ...]

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              wow.....thank you for the update & info....hope & truly wish at some point wave will go downward....it all has been looong...amen!

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              • #8
                As predicted by the government , today the number of infected people broke the record : 8'854 (according to detikNews https://news.detik.com/berita/d-5323...541.1605939819) .

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                • #9
                  Looks like another record today , 9'321 new infected people , 2'398 in Jakarta (according to https://health.detik.com/berita-deti...541.1605939819) .

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by marcus View Post
                    Looks like another record today , 9'321 new infected people , 2'398 in Jakarta (according to https://health.detik.com/berita-deti...541.1605939819) .
                    feels like the curve is not going to flatten in nearest 2-6 month.Soon is Chinese New year,then Easter,Then Lebaran...chances are that it will take another good year till life gets better...sad...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Emily888 View Post
                      feels like the curve is not going to flatten in nearest 2-6 month...

                      It seems so .

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                      • #12
                        New records of coronavirus infected people in Indonesia , according to detik.com :

                        14 Jan : 11'557

                        15 Jan : 12'818

                        16 Jan : 14'224 , 3'536 in Jakarta (https://health.detik.com/berita-deti...541.1605939819)

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                        • #13
                          I made it to be back to Jkt this w.end. Just wanted to share info which i wish was published in eHac app ( it is not!).If i just had this info, whole process of goingg out of airport were way faster & easier, just as normal times, with exception that you going to a hotel for 5 days quaranteen.... There is pretty crowded & lenghty on exit if you have to wait for the busses which are assigned to head to a a disignated * ( & choosen for that particular date) hotel..Every day hotel choices are vary. For WNA it is eaisier ( costly although considering the cost u have to bare on yr own) : to have booked hotel in advance, so when you landed, you just show your reg. in eHac,go through immigration, take yr luggage?? and show to TNI Officers your hotel booking ---> then you go straight to the taxi or to your own transportation ( *but accompanying by the officer until transportation) and go straight to the hotel you booked... List of hotel for WNA includes Shangrila,G.Hyatt,Meriott,and some more 5*...They have good Quaranteen packages for the ROOM....Other hotels ( Ibis, Swissbell and other 3 star ) charging per person between 1jt - 1,2 jt/ per person/per day....So if family ( wife/husband) Shangrila is 600 rb. cheapper than Swiss bell or Ibis!... if s.one needs more info, pls. ask...happy to give tips....It will be lot more easier for all, and more orginized if they provided this info for all arriving people!
                          ( P.S.i can not attach pdf file here with full hotel lists and person in charge....pls. ask i s. one needs it...Main tip : if really no need or no must to fly,do consider postponing the trip untill better time: saved nerves & money too!
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                          Last edited by wm; 1 day ago.

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