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  • Education May Change After This Coronavirus Crisis

    From https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...=technology-vp , March 2020
    Title : Classrooms Become the Latest Coronavirus Casualty - Online learning - a wonderful workaround during a contagion - is an educational experiment in a world where teachers are no longer considered authority figures.
    By Stephen L. Carter , Professor of Law at Yale University

    [As a professor ...(who) have responded to the coronavirus threat by canceling in-person classes, I find myself wondering whether our students will discover what many of us secretly fear : that the classroom isn't really necessary for learning ... As critics have pointed out for years, the technology of learning has scarcely budged in 2 centuries ... many scholars argue, the notion of the "test" is itself outdated ... closed-book examination is arguably a holdover from the days when the ability to remember was most important. If you look at the world outside the classroom, however, memory retrieval is becoming much less important than skill at getting a digital device to tell you what you need to know ...

    Perhaps the future lies in models like the Agora school in the Netherlands ... There are no teachers ... students are free to use computers and phones ... because, after all, both will exist in the outside world ... Advocates insist that the students do as well as or better than their more traditionally instructed counterparts .

    Or perhaps the future lies along a different path. But it is likely to be a path away from the traditional model ... It's not uncommon to hear young people in college and professional school wonder aloud why they need to go to class at all. Why can't they just read the assignments and take the test ? ... ]
    Last edited by marcus; 27-03-20, 18:52.

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    I am not a education specialist but from my own experience I always thought that the traditional Education is one of the most negleted sector . In my 16 years traditional public school time I didn't find a single teacher who motivate me to learn . And the worst time was during university , the worst teachers being PhD ones (by the way I guess universities are classified according to the numbers of Phd & Master Science teachers and how many "papers" they publish , not according to how well they teach) .

    In my country we have private schools to prepare students for the university entrance tests . I was in one of these schools where I did discover good teachers do exist (they teach 3 years of traditional schools subjects in just 1 year) . And why ? These (expensive) schools are ranked according how many of their students enter in the best universities , so the teachers must motivate the students . This experience later showed me that good teachers are not about being PhD but intead about being good in transmitting information to the students .

    I know now that there are many very good short video courses in the internet , but this idea of streaming video although good it is not economically efficient because just the internet data transmition is relatively expensive .

    My idea is for countries' government to hire the best teachers , video record all the curriculum material presented by these teachers and distribute them in , for example , usb flash memories , or DVD type discs , or ... Students would receive the videos + books and study at home . Schools would have teachers there to : provide extra explanations to those who still need , apply national tests , coordinate : special projects , sports , social events , ... (all country's students would have these same good teachers in the required basic curriculum through recorded videos , no second & third category public schools anymore) .

    Note : I see the above as similar to movie versus live theater show . Instead of live performing multiple times the same story just video record it once and the story becomes available to be seen multiple times . This is why movies are so common but live theater shows almost disappeared .
    Last edited by marcus; 21-03-20, 07:51.

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    • #3
      Hi guys, yes I have also thought whether the education sector will see drastic changes after the corona virus pandemic is controlled. I doubt, however, that our school system in Indonesia will change much. There are simply too many interests vested in the education system and school as we know it, therefore change always unfolds very, very slowly, if at all. Parents, students, teachers, government, industry, everyone has input on how to make things better. But as Dylan Wiliam and Paul Black noted in Inside The Black Box, a whole lot depends on what happens inside the classroom; the relationship and interaction between student and teacher is what matters most. Yet, a lot of money and effort is put in what happens outside the classroom: curriculum, national high stakes tests, education policy reform, etc. Teachers need to continue developing professionally, staying up-to-date with technology, and latest research in pedagogy. Students will always need to learn not only about math, english, science and art, but also learn about learning, because our world is changing faster than ever. In schools students will learn not only from teachers, or books, or even computers, but they will learn through their peers. For Indonesia, I hope that the education sector changes for the better because of the pandemic. What do you guys think is the biggest problem in the Indonesian education system?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Steven2014 View Post
        (1) ... the relationship and interaction between student and teacher is what matters most ...

        (2) Teachers need to continue developing professionally, staying up-to-date with technology, and latest research in pedagogy ...

        (3) In schools students will learn not only from teachers, or books, or even computers, but they will learn through their peers ...

        (4) What do you guys think is the biggest problem in the Indonesian education system?

        (1) I totally desagree . At least in my country , in public schools , there was no positive interation between student & teacher . The teachers were like (bad) robots .

        (2) In my country , teachers from public schools have low salaries and most don't care about improving . I was a relatively well paid civil servant (engineer) , even so more than 90% of my work colleagues had no interest in improviments . Few took extra traditional education (not related to the work) just to have an increase in the salary .

        (3) I would say that this is generic . From any human relationship you theorectically learn something (bad and good things) , but from school colleagues I never learned anything about the school subjects .

        (4) From what I know , Education in Indonesia is similar to Education in my country (and probably in most of the countries) , but I learned something that I never had in my country : schools programming trips for the students (to Bali , ...) . I personally think that trips are expensive (and bad for the environment) and not relevant for education (from my experience of many international work trips) . And nowadays there are many trips show in the TV and internet , there is no need at all to go to a place to see it by yourself .
        Last edited by marcus; 22-03-20, 10:26.

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        • #5
          Quality education is the key to success and the future of the nation! In Dubai, for example, they decided to cancel their homework and I wonder how it will end. It was canceled because they believe that children should go about their business at home. Become personalities. And homework should take place strictly in the frame of the school! My opinion on this subject is that not every student will be able to study independently. Even now, in connection with the situation around the world, the practice has shown that not every student will be engaged in self-development in non-schools! During the quarantine period, I found an interesting editor Karen Mayer http://www.rtjournal.org/college-application-essay/
          She writes interesting articles for students. These articles will help you pass quarantine days and become more confident and prepared for student time.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mike Walker View Post
            ... My opinion on this subject is that not every student will be able to study independently ...

            In my view of a more efficient Education , students would have not only the tradicional subjects (mathematics , science , languages , ..) but a lot more , like : health , political science , social behaviour , familiar economy , sex , ... , and also how to be independent (but all in videos , presented by the best teachers in the country) .

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