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    A friend of mine is thinking of sending her child to JIS, but wants to know how and if they address the needs of kids with ADHD. Her son is currently 6 and in P1 in a Nat Plus School. He has always lagged academically but now the school may hold him back another year. He has not been tested for ADHD, but exhibits some signs of ADHD. Do you think JIS can be a better fit? I have limited experience with the schools here, but I think they are waaay more rigorous than your average school in the US.

    Thanks!

  • #2
    I won't out 'em, but I know of at least a couple JIS parents on the forum. Hopefully they'll speak up, 'cause they can give you first-hand info about the quality of education there, especially as related to special-needs learners.

    I can tell you from experience in Jakarta schools, special education isn't exactly a strong point for most institutions. Through word-of-mouth, I've heard that JIS is much better about working with a diverse student population. I don't know that they go as far as creating ILPs and offering official diagnostic and treatment services, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did.

    If the boy exhibits some signs of ADHD, has always lagged academically, and is still only six, it's probably time to get him a diagnosis. He could have ADHD or some form of autism, perhaps on the low-end of the spectrum. Regardless, without a proper diagnosis, he won't be able to get the education that he deserves. Simply holding him back isn't (necessarily) the right answer and any school that would hold a child back, without looking at all of the possible contributing factors, is probably not a school equipped to dealing with a special needs learner.

    That being said, JIS is also crazy expensive. (Perhaps prohibitively expensive, depending on your friend's circumstances.) Maybe some of the forum parents have suggestions for schools that might be a good fit?

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    • #3
      JIS parent here. Actually, JIS is fairly notorious for how limited its special services are (especially at the lower grade levels). At least they are fairly honest about it - they don't oversell their capacity to serve kids who aren't typical of the mean. If anything, they sell themselves short, since they DO have a few students who need extra services who are just doing fine. But for the most part, JIS simply does not accept children (unless they are the offspring of important diplomats, when exceptions can magically be made) who show more than the slightest signs of needing a bit of extra support.

      The only real way to answer the question, of course, is to make an appointment with JIS admissions and talk to them. I agree with Sam that it's time for a diagnosis - in fact, the smart thing to do would be to get him tested first, and take the results along when meeting with JIS.

      My guess is that, if the boy has genuine difficulties that will call for extra services, JIS will not accept him as a student.

      Has your friend thought about AIS? Unlike JIS, they welcome kids who have learning issues with open arms, and provide a lot of supportive services.

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      • #4
        [FONT=Trebuchet MS]From my own experience I can tell you that ACG is accommodating for special needs children in Jakarta. Your friends should visit the school and talk to the principal.[/FONT]

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        • #5
          Thanks for all the responses. I should clarify that the boy was tested for ADHD and the doctor could not find conclusive evidence that he had it. I think maybe he is just a very hyperactive little boy. The doctor suggested putting her son on meds to see if his behavior improved but my friend refused. Since the doctor could not say that he was definitely ADHD, she didn't want to make her son a guinea pig with all the drugs. If he does have ADHD, I think it is on the mild side. One can look at this kid and say that he is just hyper and has not been disciplined by his parents [read: spoiled]

          That being said, she is interested in JIS because she thinks that most of the National Plus schools are very structured and academic oriented. That is not to say that JIS is not, but I have to agree that most schools here are tough academically. I can't ever remember homework or studying before high school level, and yet it is not uncommon for Primary students to go to tuition lessons several times a week for extra help on schoolwork. Surely there is more to school than homework and tests? My friend is hoping that since JIS doesn't focus solely on academics, that her son will not always be the "dumb" kid in class and will thrive under the different learning environment.

          I recommended AIS to my friend. She really likes the IB model so not sure if AIS will work for her.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by iloverice View Post
            That being said, she is interested in JIS because she thinks that most of the National Plus schools are very structured and academic oriented. That is not to say that JIS is not, but I have to agree that most schools here are tough academically. I can't ever remember homework or studying before high school level, and yet it is not uncommon for Primary students to go to tuition lessons several times a week for extra help on schoolwork. Surely there is more to school than homework and tests? My friend is hoping that since JIS doesn't focus solely on academics, that her son will not always be the "dumb" kid in class and will thrive under the different learning environment.
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            For little kids, that may be true, but as they get older, JIS adds plenty of structure and academic rigor, believe me. And I'm not talking high school - things get reasonably intense in middle school, and the classes are FILLED with kids whose parents are pushing, pushing, pushing.

            She really needs to talk directly to JIS about her kid, that's the only way to go about it. Same with the other schools. If he is 6, why is she even worrying about IB? It's not like he can't go to AIS for a few years, then transfer later. Kids do that all the time.

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            • #7
              I just visited JIS today and was completely blown away by the campus. Hands down, I would send my kids there if 1.) we could afford it and 2.) if it wasn't so far from our house. My friend spoke with one of the teachers and was impressed by her knowledge and experience.

              As an alternative to JIS, does anyone have any advice/recommendations about SPH in Karaweci?

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              • #8
                Dear Parents,

                If you need after school support for your children, I am available on weekdays and on Saturdays. I am a licensed teacher in the Philippines and a credentialed teacher in the state of California, U.S.A. I was a Learning Support Teacher (push-in and pull-out) for 4 years in a premier international school in Manila prior to teaching in a regular school here in Jakarta last year. I am a member of the National Association of Special Education Teachers (NASET) based in Wasington, D.C. and the Special Education Network In Asia (SENIA). My former students were mostly children of diplomats posted in Manila.

                Please feel free to contact me at [email protected] and I will be happy to be of help. Thanks!

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                • #9
                  ADHD and Ritalin

                  I have been concerned about my 5 year old Son for sometime. He will be 6 in December. My wife and I are divorced, as many of you will know from my previous postings. No need to go into that, suffice to say that due to circumstances, it has been hard for my ex wife and I to address the very many difficulties which have arisen concerning my sons development. We do not live in Jakarta city but in cibubur which is an hour away from the city, more or less. Doctors here are not really prepared for the treating of ADHD and schools, although aware of it, are resistant to any child who has ADHD symptoms being admitted.

                  It is now fairly apparent to us that he has symptoms of ADHD and he has had a local consultation which pretty much confirms. The question for us is what to do next. He needs Grade 1 schooling very soon and be taught as a special needs child. That is proving very difficult to handle here in Cibubur.

                  My Research leads me to read about a drug called Ritalin which is a special psychostimulant drug for hyperactive children. As regards food and drink, i am very conscious for my Son to stay away from anything caffeine related such as coffee (never drunk it), chocolate, carbonated drinks, coca cola etc and to eat healthy balance of fruit and vegetable. This has proven difficult to impliment when I no longer actually live with my son (my ex wife does) and I monitor what happens when administered by a series of unqualified maids who do their best but with respect are not the right people to handle my Son.

                  If I were in a better financial position, then I would have taken my son already to Singapore or back to Uk for treatment and help there. It is a very sensitive situation and add insult to injury, my new wife rejects my Son coming to our current home and it is a situation I am finding hard to handle. The priority is for my 5 year old to receive some kind of treatment, but treatment here requires money, as does schooling and the budget does not allow for it.

                  I have heard of a school in jakarta which deals with special needs but yet to trace it in order to follow up the lead. They would apparently home schooling for a few hours each day. Distraction is a major factor for my Son.

                  I worry about the use of Ritalin and there appear to be objective arguments for and against it. Anyone here with a child in a similar situation and/or with knowledge of how to address the difficulties with regard to getting medication for my Son and the schooling, i would appreciate input. Sometimes I feel very alone and isolated with this problem, one among many others, and I feel impotent in being the good and responsible parent I want to be for my Son.

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                  • #10
                    Hi, there are a few option (a lot actually) for Special Needs children of various quality. The two I would recommend is AIS (they are doing great things and have further developed thier special needs unit. They are really the only well set up school with all the facilities that are needed. BIS are also doing some great things but depends on the campus. I have also heard some great things about Cita Buana lately but can not confirm this. ACG do not have any specialty teachers for Special Needs children. Hope this helps. There is actually a network for Special Needs Teachers in Jakarta (of which I belong). I could get some more info on service from our next meeting in Sept if needed.

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                    • #11
                      I have just moved to Jakarta. My son shows symptoms of ADHD. Can anyone tell me where in Jakarta can I get him tested?

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                      • #12
                        Pediatric development specialist Roby Marcou is the best around. She's in Singapore but knows the schools in Jakarta and has associates here who can do the necessary field work like do classroom observations.

                        She's really expensive, but you get very detailed and professional feedback, presented in a format you can use to work with teachers and schools. Here's her website:

                        http://www.drrobymarcou.com.sg/index.html

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                        • #13
                          Thank you for this information. But there's nothing available in any of the hospitals in Jakarta? Just curious. Thanks

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                          • #14
                            Pushpita, ADHD is an issue for my 6 year old Son (now with my ex wife in faraway Kalimantan). I have tried at a number of Hospitals such as MRCCC, Pondok Indah and Kelapa Gading, Mitra Keluarga and permata but there is nothing solid available I have encountered at an affordable cost. Best option I believe is treating your child on a therapy course in Singapore (not Jakarta). All depends how much money you are prepared to throw at solving the issue. I simply do not have money to do so and my child, linked to other problems, is not in my personal custody. retalin drug has been suggested on many occasions but I remain unconvinced.

                            I think ADHD is much more widespread in Indonesia than you realize but diagnosis and recognition of it is very sketchy and few ordinary people outside the specialists udnerstand it, usually confused with autism.

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                            • #15
                              Thank you for this information. Can you also tell me if you are aware about the cost and how long it takes for this therapy course in Singapore?

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