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Is it just me, or do any of you think that a chat room may be a handy gismo for this site?
Not in any way to undermine the open nature of this forum, but rather, for a bit of fun and a place to discuss issues in a more candid, chatty and undocumented way.
I welcome your comments.
Is it just me, or do any of you think that a chat room may be a handy gismo for this site?
Not in any way to undermine the open nature of this forum, but rather, for a bit of fun and a place to discuss issues in a more candid, chatty and undocumented way.
I welcome your comments.
Even tho' it's still early I think you may have struck out mate, tho' if your in need of a 'private chat' perhaps a couple of us can help out, what do you reckon Fred, you up for a bit of candid and undocumented fun? ...:rolleyes::p:D
Someone call?
I've never used a chat room but I'm game.
Is it a place I can be naughty (http://sheepshagger.freeforums.org/join-our-lovely-community-t2.html)?
I have no clue if the server can support a "chat room" application. To be honest, I am not sure, simply because I have never seen it in any forum using the same server. Dunno.
My only problem with it, is that it leaves no "archives". By this, I mean that people in need of informations may be tempted to ask their questions directly through the chat rooms and the answers would not be available for the most. Personally one of my goal in participating to this forum is to help building a database where informations on very different topics could be found for any newcomer or long term resident.
Rather than a chat room, I would prefer a dedicated channel, viewable only by menbers with say, 20 or 30 posts, with no moderation (:)) where we would be allowed to call each other names :cool:
Unfortunately I submitted the idea to wm some months ago, but I believe my request has not been well received. She politely... didn't answer. :)
But anyway, I am curious to hear about the feelings of others on the subject.
The no moderation is a bad idea. I saw a really nice forum break up like that after a nasty bunfight with some very naughty name calling.
Sad behaviour on a non corporeal and anonymous forum really but I would hate to see this one go the same way as it's so useful for expats.
The no moderation is a bad idea. I saw a really nice forum break up like that after a nasty bunfight with some very naughty name calling.
Sad behaviour on a non corporeal and anonymous forum really but I would hate to see this one go the same way as it's so useful for expats.
Definitively agree on your comment about the whole forum. I, along with many other poters, have worked a lot and spend hours to make this forum a pleasant one. No way to let it goes to the dogs.
However, the idea I tried to express was:
No moderation would be valid ONLY in this dedicated channel. Moderation (light or not, depending on the channel itself) would and will still prevail for any other channel ("expat chat", "law, visas and docs",...etc), as it is the case now.
No one is forced to post in such new "non moderated channel" (which is only one channel out of more thyan 30 that this forum has), viewable by only a few.
I am sometimes fed up to be polite and nice and would really love to be more "spontaneous" with a couple of posters I may not agree with... :cool: See my drift... hehehe :D (very mean and sadistic smile)
Definitively agree on your comment about the whole forum. I, along with many other poters, have worked a lot and spend hours to make this forum a pleasant one. No way to let it goes to the dogs.
However, the idea I tried to express was:
No moderation would be valid ONLY in this dedicated channel. Moderation (light or not, depending on the channel itself) would and will still prevail for any other channel ("expat chat", "law, visas and docs",...etc), as it is the case now.
No one is forced to post in such new "non moderated channel" (which is only one channel out of more thyan 30 that this forum has), viewable by only a few.
I am sometimes fed up to be polite and nice and would really love to be more "spontaneous" with a couple of posters I may not agree with... :cool: See my drift... hehehe :D (very mean and sadistic smile)
I'm not sure about a dedicated channel, perhaps it would detract from the input to this forum which would be a shame but perhaps not, I'm open to being convinced either way.
As for spontaneous posts, pretty much all of mine are not thought out in advance, self evident really and I often think later that perhaps I could have rephrased this or that more kindly but on the other hand it wouldn't be me to think before I type... :p
Excellant idea. I believe making a minimal number of posts a prerequisite for enterance of said channel is fitting.
Im curious if the quality of Mauricios writing would turn base in that channel or stay at the level of maturity and education as in present ones. Funny thats the first thing I thought of when I read your suggestion. Part of the enjoyment of reading his critical posts is how he puts things, consistantly utilizing above2 average vocabulary and the breadth of information he has aquired.
Im smiling imagining a battleground of put downs and cuss words while Mauricio gracefuly glides, tip toes, dances and on occasion swings a 2x4 to a resounding thud, posting as if in any other channel.
When foul language in moderation appears, it can be used as a handy exclamation mark. Beyond that and its an indicator of ones lack of ability to express oneself, due to limited resources. Saturation of naughty words, interesting enough, diminishes the umph of the exclamation created by moderation.
I am sometimes fed up to be polite and nice and would really love to be more "spontaneous" with a couple of posters I may not agree with... :cool:
I would match those sentiments, further, there are some subjects on which I would never post, but would be happy to discuss in a chat room.
It may also be a nice place for foreign language practice and to talk about Mauricio behind his back.
The minimum number of posts is a good idea.
I still think my ideas about the Troll Hall, Hall of Shame and the ability to give negative reputation are sound...
littleiyut
02-07-09, 17:05
I would match those sentiments, further, there are some subjects on which I would never post, but would be happy to discuss in a chat room.
It may also be a nice place for foreign language practice and to talk about Mauricio behind his back.
The minimum number of posts is a good idea.
I'm in with cire's idea but I probably will be very rare visit the site. I wear my heart on my sleeve, that's my problem.:p
waarmstrong
02-07-09, 20:39
It may also be a nice place for foreign language practice and to talk about Mauricio behind his back.
Maybe not behind his back, but I would like to get the last word in, once in a while.
Added some minutes later: I see below that M got in the last word yet again.
Ah you guys and gals are making a mountain out of a mole hill. I'm not that bad. Really. I'm just a paper tiger...
There' a joke in Spanish that goes something like this: The man proudly boasts to his mates that in the home he always has the last word. Then he adds, "regrettably my last words are always 'yes, yes, dear...'"...
If you have Skype, a Skype logo will appear on your identity bar allowing others to Skype you or Skype-chat you...
I AM the boss in my house and I have my wife's permission to say so. :)
I AM the boss in my house and I have my wife's permission to say so. :)
Sama sini... :p
littleiyut
03-07-09, 12:28
Sama sini... :p
Ha.... ha... ha.... Funny:D:D:D
I'm Newbie here, My name is cecil , now i live in jakarta, Indonesia but i came from cirebon. I want to improve my english hope u could help me ...;)
waarmstrong
03-07-09, 13:08
I'm Newbie here, My name is cecil , now i live in jakarta, Indonesia but i came from cirebon. I want to improve my english hope u could help me ...;)
Well, Seshiru, seems you are off to a very good start. Welcome and keep posting your thoughts.
as long as it's an open thread and anyone can post, no one really has the last word...
Having been a member (and co-creator and co-moderator) in the past, I can say that chat rooms can be a good thing and I wouldn't mind being part of one again. Although, since I am now married, got 2 boys under 5 and a dial-up connection, my time for such activities are somewhat limited.
Given certain boundaries for a chat room, I would support it.
I do take note of Atlantis' point of one of his original intentions for the forum is to have a "library of information" which people could refer too and one would not have that with a chat room.
Although combersome, conversation threads could be saved and posted in the forum, but that would not always get done as people would forget to do it.
I would see the chat room as a place for the conversation threads which would necessarily add value to the library. Although some of the topic threads do make the forum a little more light-hearted, whichis a good thing.
Atlantis - just a side note of the server being able to support a chat room, let me know the server spec details and the forum board spec requirements and I can advice you on whether the server hardware can run the chat room software. I have seem some software which is real light of resources and others which are real hogs.
As for the moderation, either chat room or dedicated board, no matter which option, any method would require some form of moderation. Even though the participants may be adults and all agree to disagreements happen on occassion and that we don't have to like everything everyone says, there may be 1 or 2 who cross the line of appropriateness and ake something too far.
I've been the moderator of a chat room and I did as little moderation as possible. However, there where still had to be some basic ground rules and, unfortunately, there where 3 or 4 occassions where the moderators had to do their job when certain individuals went too far.
I don't think there can be a board or chat room that is 100% unmoderated. I think there should still be too help prevent things getting out of hand. Otherwise, it would spill over into the rest of the forum and then it would become damaging.
This is something which could be worked out between the moderators and the community as a whole. It would have to be the majority concensus and the participation be on a voluntary basis and those who wish to participate but do not agree with the majority and the rules, should still abide by the rules and remain civil.
I think thar this could be the best way to move forward on the 2 options presented here.
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