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Lando86
23-02-09, 19:52
Why am I not surprised that Canada is the friendliest country? I love Canada, always have and always will :cool:

Surprised The Netherlands didn't make it as well as I would have thought though.

http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/personal-finance/article/forbes/932/worlds-friendliest-countries


The country that once welcomed the tired, poor, huddled masses is now asking for a little reciprocation. And Canada, Germany and Australia are heeding the call.

They top a list of the countries most welcoming to expats. There, relocators have a relatively easy time befriending locals, joining a local community group and learning the local language.


Canada is the most welcoming; almost 95 per cent of respondents to HSBC Bank International's Expat Exploreer Survey, released today, said they have made friends with locals. In Germany, 92 per cent were so lucky and in Australia 91 per cent befriended those living there. The United Arab Emirates was found to be the most difficult for expats; only 54 per cent of those surveyed said they'd made friends with locals.

Behind the numbers

The study surveyed 2,155 expats in 48 countries, spanning four continents, between February and April 2008. Respondents rated their country in four categories: ability to befriend locals, number that joined a community group, number that learned the language and percentage that bought property.

"We conducted this survey to better understand expatriate needs and get insight into the emotions of expats. The banking business is all about trust, especially with the recent credit crisis," says Martin Spurling, CEO of HSBC Bank International and Head of HSBC Global Offshore. "We want them to build a relationship with their wealth manager regardless of where they travel."

For Americans, traveling abroad to start over is becoming increasingly common. America used to have it all: good jobs, booming economy, skyrocketing stock market and plentiful housing. What a difference a year can make. The boom has gone bust and people are now heading for the exits en masse—with an eye abroad.

It's no wonder they likely find Canada so welcoming. It has an accessible language, diverse culture and low levels of government corruption, says Patricia Linderman, editor of Tales from a Small Planet, an online newsletter for expats.

It also has other expats. This is important, Linderman says, since even the most gracious locals already have busy, established lives and can be unwilling to put in the effort to befriend someone they know could leave within several years.

"I'm not suggesting that it's good to live in an 'expat ghetto'. It's immensely rewarding to live among local people and make friends with them," she says.

Linderman says other expats are important because they share similar needs like making friends and adjusting to life in a new country. They also understand the frustrations daily life brings.

"A significant expat community," she says, "also means that there will be at least one truly international school, expat support groups and amenities like English-language bookstores."

Team work

Joining a recreational sports team or community group can help speed integration. Almost half of respondents reported taking this action, with Germany leading the pack at 65 per cent. Churches, organizations and schools provide good places to forge friendships with people who possess common interests and beliefs.

"When I was an expat in Hong Kong, I became a member of the local football club and found it was a fantastic way of meeting like-minded people," says Paul Fay, head of marketing and communication at HSBC Bank International, of his expat experience in Hong Kong. "Particularly in Asia joining these clubs works to your advantage."

Australia scored high in friendliness but ranked last when it came to joining a group. That's because expats in Australia tend to be younger, with 51 per cent in the 18-34 age group, and may not need organized groups to facilitate meeting new people.

Groupthink is less of an issue in Germany, since meeting people there is relatively easy.

"I'm not surprised that Germany is a popular choice whether you are going for a short-term cultural experience or a long-term job assignment," says Robin Pascoe of expatexpert.com, a Web site for families living and working abroad. "Germany has fantastic international schools for the kids of expats."

Germany is also considered middle-of-the-road culturally, according to Neil Payne, who works for Kwintessential, a translation services company in the U.K. Anyone you stop on the street can talk to you in English, he says. What's more, "working conditions are also very well respected and there is a nice delineation for work life and social life, which we don't have in England."

China, India and United Arab Emirates scored low overall because cultural differences from the West made integration difficult.

This doesn't surprise Payne.

"Our experience is that people do struggle and find it hard to adapt," he says. "It's the psychological difference: so far removed from what Western expats are used to."

Still, says Fay, don't eliminate a country simply because of a language barrier.

"Cantonese and Mandarin can be very challenging for Western expatriates," he says, "though for those who are resilient and do invest, it can be an incredible experience."

Davita
24-02-09, 00:05
I have to agree..... that is why I immigrated to Canada on retirement about 20 years ago.
In the beginning it was easy for me, being British, to integrate, but just a little harder for my Indonesian wife. As the years have passed she is now so totally part of the community and so popular, I swear, if she wanted to, she could become Mayor.
In Vancouver and Toronto there are so many cultures and colours that no-one cares about prejudice or discrimination. Also, thankfully, the class system is missing.
The recent migrants from Asia and the Balkans may have a little difficulty with language, and consequently may stick in their own groups, but there are so many establishments for learning English that no-one should be left behind.
I revel to see schoolkids, of all backgrounds, freely mix, communicate and enjoy each others companionships.
As for expats working in Canada I think they must blend in and become invisable. I've never met an expat in Canada. After they have lived there for a while I believe they usually apply to immigrate as it is relatively easy; and Canada permits Dual Nationality :)

Patriotic David

Columbo
24-02-09, 11:56
I once heard a comedian refer to Australians as "free range Canadians" which gave me a good laugh. I can say honestly that out of all Candian's I have met socially or for business, I am yet to meet one that has not been friendly and good natured. Canada is number one on my list of places to visit for that exact reason.

Davita
24-02-09, 12:36
Another joke about Canadians is that.....after they get money from an ATM they slightly bow and say "Thank You"

Polite David

Sabino
24-02-09, 13:49
I believe it is easy to integrate into Canadian society because we are so multicultural, I myself have many friends who are from all over the world. Where as compared to say Jakarta, a city of 23 million there are only what 30 some thousand expats living in the city where as atleast half of the city of 1 million I live in are from some where else lol.

littleexpatlady
24-02-09, 15:19
Great to see all this positivity about Canada :-)

I have to point out some flaws in their study, though... for example, you can't expect all expats in UAE to make friends with locals when locals make up <15% of the population!

b33j915
25-02-09, 02:06
Vancouver is awesome, I enjoy Chinatown during the daytime...but its kind of seedy at night time...I think that's the place where all the drug addicts hang out? Near the Red Arches that look like you're driving through a temple? Toronto, Ottawa and Ontario are also lovely places to visit. Strange but there is a greater population of Indians from India living on the East Coast as opposed to the West Coast...Why is that?

Sabino
25-02-09, 04:44
Strange but there is a greater population of Indians from India living on the East Coast as opposed to the West Coast...Why is that?

They like to be together and around there own people so they all move to the same places.

b33j915
25-02-09, 10:04
They like to be together and around there own people so they all move to the same places.

Ok....I just thought that was rather odd. Thanks:)

Sabino
25-02-09, 10:08
Seems its like that with anyone who moves to a foreign country. Everyone wants to be around what makes them comfortable in an uncomfortable situation haha.

Davita
06-03-09, 22:34
Just wanted to regurgitate this thread with this recent article from AOL:

http://news.aol.ca/article/cdn-who-wanted-please-gets-pepper-sprayed-by-us-border-guard/552705/

It kinda indicates the difference between American and Canadian attitudes.

X border traveller David

waarmstrong
07-03-09, 11:22
Just wanted to regurgitate this thread with this recent article from AOL:

http://news.aol.ca/article/cdn-who-wanted-please-gets-pepper-sprayed-by-us-border-guard/552705/

It kinda indicates the difference between American and Canadian attitudes.

X border traveller David

With the excesses of the Bush administration still in everyone's mind, America is an easy target. Canada is a indeed a friendly country, tolerant of differences, and yes the short tempered, authoritarian overreaction of the border guard was excessive, but this episode is not representative of the national character of America -- if there is such a thing as national character. I, and I think most Americans, as well as Canadians, find the behavior of the boarder guard abhorrent.

CFesnoux
06-03-12, 06:46
I have lived in Canada almost my entire life - Southern Ontario and Vancouver. Canadians may be the most polite people, but I am not so sure 'the' friendliest. We are definitely a friendly bunch, but I wouldn't go so far as to say the most.

PhilippeD
06-03-12, 08:07
I have lived in Canada almost my entire life - Southern Ontario and Vancouver. Canadians may be the most polite people, but I am not so sure 'the' friendliest. We are definitely a friendly bunch, but I wouldn't go so far as to say the most.

It's because you never live in Montreal (Québec)! :bounce:

CFesnoux
06-03-12, 10:23
I have been to Montreal a few times, and I really liked it. It has a bit more of a European feel. However, the Quebecois, as nice as they are to each other, from hearsay are not the friendliest to non French speaking Canadians. Then again, I haven't lived there and I am not entirely sure if this is true or not.

Tangles
06-03-12, 13:34
Canadians are so happy and friendly because they realize how close they came to being American, and avoided it. If I dodged a bullet like that I would be most jovial and welcoming as well.

PhilippeD
07-03-12, 08:34
Canadians are so happy and friendly because they realize how close they came to being American, and avoided it. If I dodged a bullet like that I would be most jovial and welcoming as well. I think you get a point!!! :)

Debora
07-03-12, 09:08
I know a Montreal guy and he's a really nice friendly man. :)

eldad_zondag
30-07-12, 21:36
yeah, I'm agree with you. Canada is the best!

Ratna
31-07-12, 01:50
Okey....anybody want to take me to Canada? please.....:D

PhilippeD
31-07-12, 15:12
hmmmm... I don't have any plan to go back home in a short term.
If I do, I will see if I can have space in my luggage http://cdn.livinginindonesiaforum.org/images/smilies/wink.png

Ratna
31-07-12, 15:15
Okey, bring big luggage so i can fit in.... :)