PDA

View Full Version : Living in a country that not couples from



Intan Fachrudin
20-02-12, 13:06
Can u explain to me what is d procedures that i and my bf should do
Im Indonesian, my bf is Arab KSA
We will marriage in Indonesia, and after that we will live in Scotland, because of he works there....
So. Is there a regulation that we should accept it as frequently?

1. If im still Indonesian and he's still KSA. how we can live in Scotland? i mean, how the procedures that i can get stay visa if im not working?
2. If we have a children in the future. how about their nationality?

sweetmaria
20-02-12, 13:24
As far as I'm concerned, it is not a big deal wherever you live with your spouse as long as the spousal permit is granted.

if you're going to get married in Indonesia, all of your papers would be registered here and endorsed (please correct me) by his government.

If you're not working, you'll be a dependent. I'm not sure whether the law in UK allows that because in the Netherlands, even though my hubby is a Dutchman, it's not easy for me to join him there.

Re- your children: they can get dual citizenship, one is Indonesian (at least).

@atlantis: we need your help here.

marcus
20-02-12, 14:21
.................
1. If im still Indonesian and he's still KSA. how we can live in Scotland? i mean, how the procedures that i can get stay visa if im not working?
2. If we have a children in the future. how about their nationality?


1. I don't know , but I think you can get the information at the UK Embassy in Jakarta and/or at the websites :

http://ukinindonesia.fco.gov.uk/en/visiting-uk/

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/do-you-need-a-visa/

Ref.:

http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.org/showthread.php/2873-Help!-In-desparateneed-of-visa-advice-for-my-Indonesian-husband-to-join-me-in-the-UK.?highlight=visa+refused

http://www.livinginindonesiaforum.org/showthread.php/12814-How-long-does-appeal-hearing-for-UK-visa-refusal-take?highlight=visa+refused


2. Your children can have dual citizenship according Indonesian Law . It will be good to check the law of your future husband's country and/or the law where your children will be born too .


Partial copy of information at http://www.expat.or.id/info/mixmarriages.html :

[Obtaining Dual Nationality for Indonesian/Foreign Children

With the advent of the new citizenship law (Law No. 12 of 2006) the children of mixed marriages have the right to hold dual citizenship until they are 18 years old. At 18, they must choose whether to stay Indonesian citizens or follow the foreign citizenship. They will be then given three more years to decide on which nationality to choose. If they are married before the age of 18, their dual citizenship will be revoked.

To summarize:
0 to 18 y.o: Dual citizenship allowed (conditions apply)
18 to 21 y.o: Dual citizenship tolerated, transition/thinking period
21+ y.o: Dual citizenship forbidden by Indonesian government, child must choose one nationality

Any children born after 1 August 2006 are automatically entitled to the indonesian citizenship as per law 12/2006 (undang-undang nomor 12 tahun 20 they have not notified the Immigration Directorate or the Indonesian government of their desire to remain an Indonesian citizen, they will lose their Indonesian citizenship and be automatically considered a foreigner.
06 tentang kewarganegaraan), meaning that no procedure is required. Just go to the Kantor Imigrasi and get your children a passport, showing their birth certificate (and a few other documents - they will give you the list).

Your children will be entitled by Indonesian Law (check with your own country's laws for the foreign citizenship rules) to have dual citizenship until the children reach the age of 18. The children then have three years to choose one of the two citizenships as their citizenship, meaning that the children will “release” one of them. The day after their 21st birthday, if
With dual citizenship your child will hold two passports. One condition of Indonesia's dual citizenship law is that the child must consistently use the same passport leaving and entering Indonesia, choosing either one of them....]

Nimbus
20-02-12, 15:33
1. I'm not familiar with the procedure, but it looks like you can stay as long as your husband can prove he has enough money to support you.
http://www.bia.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/partners-families/migrant-workers-students/.

2. Your children are guaranteed to have Indonesian citizenship if you are still an Indonesian citizen. Whether they are also gaining KSA and UK citizenships depend on KSA and UK law.

K&M
20-02-12, 15:44
Don't forget to sign a prenup in case you want to own land in Indonesia in the future