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Anyone here like Cal Tjader or Mongo Santamaria?
Anyone here like Cal Tjader or Mongo Santamaria?
I appreciate Latin Music...in fact, more so now than I did when I was a kid. I remember when I would visit my aunt's place (mother's sister) in Brooklyn aka Crooklyn. She would have the music blasting from 7am until all hours of the night. Initially as kids we were all embarrassed, cuz Tia Beto (Veronica) would go overboard with the Mambo/Samba music. Even though she was Argentinean, she partied like the Boricua's. Some childhood memories are destined to stick with us forever...Tia Beto with the heavy makeup and rollers permanently affixed to her hair (don't think I ever saw her without them)
Cal was a resident of San Francisco for a bit I think. I remember attending a one or two "Cinco De Mayo" festivals in the Bay Area where he was on the venue, alongside Santana and a few other local greats. Mongo has to be the one of the greatest percussionist from Cuba is he not?...my favorite song "Tu Crees Que?", I really don't recall to many others.
But you mention the two together....hmmmm any chance you refering to the "Black Orchid Album"?:D
Yah, Black Orchid is one of my favorites. Soul Sauce, Latino and the New Sounds are also good...As for Mongo, he was forgotten during the Buena Vista Social Club craze of 10 years ago. Too bad.
ajajajaajaja..Buena Vista Social Club~~ I am listening to this album as I typed this. Bought this in 1997!!!
The trumpet by Manuel Guajiro Mirabal ~~Chan Chan~~ aaahhh..so sexy~~
Cuando Juanica y Chan Chan
En el mar cernian arena
como sacudia el jibe
a Chan Chan le daba pena~~
One of my old time favourites~~ Aarrghhh... Old Habana here I come in June~~cant wait!!..and the voice of Ibrahim Ferrer still haunts me for many many years...
the smell of Cubaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...god! am I missing it that much~~ I'll be back my old friend, I'll be back in June~~~~
Entiendes la letra de esas canciones, Izamarina?
Hola Izamarina?
Yo no supe que usted fue cubano o usted acaba de adorar el pais? Adoraria ir visita en el dia, yo soy dicho que Havanna es realmente agradable durante febrero hasta mayo. Tengo a amigos cubanos que viven en Miami, las historias que ellos dicen. dia ..one yo tendre la oportunidad de ir. Cualquier sugerencia en lo que ver? :D
Entiendes la letra de esas canciones, Izamarina?
I do:D
Entiendes la letra de esas canciones, Izamarina?
I have been living in South America for a year or so and learnt "castellano". However I did not have the scholar basis needed to really memorise it. I am now in a situation that I can understand it with no major problem, but I am far from still being able to speak it. :( I promised myself for years to find time to get the proper education to master the linguo because it is IMHO one of the most beautiful language to hear.
You guys are lucky...:o
I have been living in South America for a year or so and learnt "castellano". However I did not have the scholar basis needed to really memorise it. I am now in a situation that I can understand it with no major problem, but I am far from still being able to speak it. :( I promised myself for years to find time to get the proper education to master the linguo because it is IMHO one of the most beautiful language to hear.
You guys are lucky...:o
It doesn't come so easy for me...I actually read periodicals from time to time just to stay on top of it (it would help to make a few more visits to my relatives in Sth America or perhaps more than the occassional bday/holiday calls as a means to interact with the lingo, their they insist upon speaking our lingo instead of English). I'm suprised you picked castellano in Sth America...where did you travel? I was under the impression that only the 'blue blood aristos" that could trace their heritage to the colonial days were the only people that used that...for most part the language has pretty much been bastardized to my knowledge. My Spanish & Italian friends actually make a point to correct my lingo and often make fun of the slang etc...:D
I'm suprised you picked castellano in Sth America...where did you travel? I was under the impression that only the 'blue blood aristos" that could trace their heritage to the colonial days were the only people that used that...for most part the language has pretty much been bastardized to my knowledge.
Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador than Colombia. I lived and did business in Colombia for some time. In these four countries, people are refering as "castellano" being their language and almost never as "espanol" (sorry, I have no clue where the "tilde" is in my keyboard:o). Though it was when I was in my twenties (meaning 15 years ago) I do not think that they change that. This "castellano" reference surprised me at first, but I noticed that almost any person I met from villages to cities used this term.
I have been travelling up north through Panama, Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala and Mexico but I can not remenber if they emphasize this "castellano" thing there. I think not.
CASTELLANO and ESPAŅOL are synonymous for that language spoken in 20-odd countries in the Americas and in Spain. They are one and the same.
CASTELLANO and ESPAŅOL are synonymous for that language spoken in 20-odd countries in the Americas and in Spain. They are one and the same.
I guess what I'm experiencing is the dialects or tongues of native tribes as opposed to the standardized language spoken. I don't have much info beyond that...but I'm aware that for instance, in Puerto Rico, the espanol spoken there is a far cry different that what is used in Mexico. Further, in Tijuana, they speak a different tongue than they do in say Michoacan...but all seems to understand one another, perhaps I'm missing something.:confused:
they all understand each other because they are fundamentally all speaking the same language, albeit each one with different local words, accent and intonation.
they all understand each other because they are fundamentally all speaking the same language, albeit each one with different local words, accent and intonation.
Makes sense....:D
Entiendes la letra de esas canciones, Izamarina?
si comprende...hahahaha..thats the sexy part when he sits next to Juanica..getting aroused..hahahaha.. my spanish is at its worst now. Its been years, but it comes back soon as i listen to people speaking or listen to my spanish music collection. I have a good friend here in Brunei, he is Chilean (his english is not so brilliant), so mostly we converse in Spanish, but I tend to get it mixed up sometimes into french or german. Hut yeah, we managed good conversations. And Hell yes!! he is the only guy I know here who can do the Salsa and Mambo with me!!
I spent some time in Venezuela, Chile and Mexico, Cuba, Dominican Republic and alot of places in the West Indies.. I love languages, and I read Pablo Neruda's works..hahaahahha..all in Spanish. One of those crazy influences from buddies back in university days as I tend to hang out with Latin Americans for the love of their music and history. Those were the days indeed. I still go there for meet ups, sometimes also in Europe~~
Oww...I also listen to Manu...haahhaha..
cheers~
Mariposa~~~...ahhahaha...I love the beat...
Hola Izamarina?
Yo no supe que usted fue cubano o usted acaba de adorar el pais? Adoraria ir visita en el dia, yo soy dicho que Havanna es realmente agradable durante febrero hasta mayo. Tengo a amigos cubanos que viven en Miami, las historias que ellos dicen. dia ..one yo tendre la oportunidad de ir. Cualquier sugerencia en lo que ver? :D
Been there a few times BJ and always stayed at the same hotel in Old Habana, the Conde de Villanueva. Its a nice area, right in the middle of the old city..I am not keen on those beach resorts. I'd rather absord the local scene. I make friends quite easily at cafes and bars...LOL..not really a wise thing to do, but you like the music, people are generally genuine, even speaking 'broken' spanish, the old guys in particular are so charming, smoke, have beers, listen to music..thats most of my evenings.
Although I must say I dont really like the local food..hahahaha.. I am hoping I can get there in June. My partner and I are planning to go in April but our schedule is abit tight up to second quarter of 09. I am trying to fit in a visit to Manado first where Atlantis is~~
BTW, is there a latin club in Jakarta? I've been to the one in Dharmawangsa Square..cant remember the name. They play some nice music there...
Oww...Miami..been there..I didnt like it much..I much prefer New Orleans...LOL..creole food and music!
[..I much prefer New Orleans...LOL..creole food and music![/quote]
Thanks for the info regarding the Hotel...When my schedule permits I will make the time to go there, I'm sure it will be awesome.:D
Creole Food? My favorite restaurant in New Orleans, was Mother's (the best Red Bean & Rice, Etouffe, Poor Boys around. They also did a damn good Peach Cobbler.
Canal or Bourbon?:D
Another one a goner~~ RIP Orlando Lopez
HAVANA: Orlando “Cachaito” Lopez, considered the “heartbeat” of Cuba’s legendary Buena Vista Social Club for his internationally acclaimed bass playing, died Monday of complications from prostate surgery, fellow musicians said. He was 76.
Lopez, a founding member of the band brought together in the 1990s by American guitarist and producer Ry Cooder, died in a Havana hospital several days after surgery, said Manuel Galban, a Cuban musician who played with Lopez for decades.
“We have lost a great companion,” said Galban.
Born in Havana in 1933, Lopez became an international sensation as part of the Buena Vista Social Club — a group of elderly, sometimes retired, musicians who were living quietly in Cuba before Cooder brought them together and they became worldwide sensations.
The people with soul and music in their blood ~~ aahh..never going to be the same!
IZAMARINA, are you familiar with Mongo Santamaria or Cal Tjader?
cant say Tjader is in one of my favourite list :) I have nightmares with vibraphones due to several dates with a jazz fanatic~ I was vibraphoned to death.. I dont mind listening to Tumbao or Tu Crees que..erkks cant remember if I spelt this correctly. Some of his music also made me feel like I was in a Bogart's movie :)
Yes, I listened some to Mongo, only because I like mambo beats, although it gets abit monotonous to my untrained musical ears. I'm more into Tito Puente :)
Art Blakey..he was like so old in the early 80s, saw him at Harry's Jazz Bar..one night performance same night as Jose Feliciano...what a night that was!!Willie Bobo.. I wish I have his collections, sadly I dont~~ darn ex husband..he got custody!
This is worrying..hahahaha...I seem to like old or dead guys. I like Wynton Marsalis too...not so old, not dead, and brilliant concerts!!
The best CD that I've bought in a year is pianist Ruben Gonzalez. Brilliant, elegant, complex, thoroughly American, a showcase of mestizaje...
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