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Now that Bush is almost out of office. It is time to reflect and dicuss how he ruined America. Sorry, if I didn't leave any room here for Bush supporters to comment. I suggest they start their own forum thread titled something like "Why I thought the President didn't have to be smart, just have good advisors". :D
Lets give this a round house of comments...
CNN or BBC here in Jakarta on Cable(forgot which one) are currently running a repeated show called 'Intelligence squared'
The topic of debate is 'Is Bush the worst President in the last 50 years?'
There are 4 debators...one being Carl Rove :D
The audience was invited to vote before and after the debate....not going to tell you the results in case I spoil your appetite!
David
elkythedogsperson
13-01-09, 13:15
Indotom, the Internet is only so big. Think there's enough room for a complete answer?
Now that Bush is almost out of office. It is time to reflect and dicuss how he ruined America. Sorry, if I didn't leave any room here for Bush supporters to comment. I suggest they start their own forum thread titled something like "Why I thought the President didn't have to be smart, just have good advisors". :D
Lets give this a round house of comments...
I'd really love to reply to this thread...In fact I have a couple of choice words for the "Master Con Artist"...But there so little time and the air I breathe is precious. Seeing as it would be a "Long Winded Sermon, I choose to leave it at this...
C' Ya!!!...N don't let the doorknob hit U where the Good Lord Split Ya!!!!
Well let me be the first to add a line item then.
1. His Vice President thinks liberty and truth are subjective words.
Black Adder
19-01-09, 21:59
The 'misunderestimated' president?
All politicians are prone to make slips of the tongue in the heat of the moment - and President George W Bush has made more than most.
The word "Bushism" has been coined to label his occasional verbal lapses during eight years in office, which come to an end on 20 January.
Here are some of his most memorable pronouncements.
ON HIMSELF
"They misunderestimated me."
Bentonville, Arkansas, 6 November, 2000
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again."
Nashville, Tennessee, 17 September, 2002
"There's no question that the minute I got elected, the storm clouds on the horizon were getting nearly directly overhead."
Washington DC, 11 May, 2001
"I want to thank my friend, Senator Bill Frist, for joining us today. He married a Texas girl, I want you to know. Karyn is with us. A West Texas girl, just like me."
Nashville, Tennessee, 27 May, 2004
FOREIGN AFFAIRS
"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the great and enduring alliances of modern times."
Tokyo, 18 February, 2002
"The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorise himself."
Grand Rapids, Michigan, 29 January, 2003
"I think war is a dangerous place."
Washington DC, 7 May, 2003
"The ambassador and the general were briefing me on the - the vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world. And we will find these people and we will bring them to justice."
Washington DC, 27 October, 2003
"Free societies are hopeful societies. And free societies will be allies against these hateful few who have no conscience, who kill at the whim of a hat."
Washington DC, 17 September, 2004
"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror."
CBS News, Washington DC, 6 September, 2006
EDUCATION
"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"
Florence, South Carolina, 11 January, 2000
"Reading is the basics for all learning."
Reston, Virginia, 28 March, 2000
"As governor of Texas, I have set high standards for our public schools, and I have met those standards."
CNN, 30 August, 2000
"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.''
Townsend, Tennessee, 21 February, 2001
ECONOMICS
"I understand small business growth. I was one."
New York Daily News, 19 February, 2000
"It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it."
Reuters, 5 May, 2000
"I do remain confident in Linda. She'll make a fine Labour Secretary. From what I've read in the press accounts, she's perfectly qualified."
Austin, Texas, 8 January, 2001
"First, let me make it very clear, poor people aren't necessarily killers. Just because you happen to be not rich doesn't mean you're willing to kill."
Washington DC, 19 May, 2003
HEALTHCARE
"I don't think we need to be subliminable about the differences between our views on prescription drugs."
Orlando, Florida, 12 September, 2000
"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB/GYN's aren't able to practice their love with women all across the country."
Poplar Bluff, Missouri, 6 September, 2004
TECHNOLOGY
"Will the highways on the internet become more few?"
Concord, New Hampshire, 29 January, 2000
"It would be a mistake for the United States Senate to allow any kind of human cloning to come out of that chamber."
Washington DC, 10 April, 2002
"Information is moving. You know, nightly news is one way, of course, but it's also moving through the blogosphere and through the Internets."
Washington DC, 2 May, 2007
OUT OF LEFT FIELD
"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully."
Saginaw, Michigan, 29 September, 2000
"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream."
LaCrosse, Wisconsin, 18 October, 2000
"Those who enter the country illegally violate the law."
Tucson, Arizona, 28 November, 2005
"That's George Washington, the first president, of course. The interesting thing about him is that I read three - three or four books about him last year. Isn't that interesting?"
Speaking to reporter Kai Diekmann, Washington DC, 5 May, 2006
ON GOVERNING
"I have a different vision of leadership. A leadership is someone who brings people together."
Bartlett, Tennessee, 18 August, 2000
"I'm the decider, and I decide what is best."
Washington DC, 18 April, 2006
"And truth of the matter is, a lot of reports in Washington are never read by anybody. To show you how important this one is, I read it, and [Tony Blair] read it."
On the publication of the Baker-Hamilton Report, Washington DC, 7 December, 2006
"All I can tell you is when the governor calls, I answer his phone."
San Diego, California, 25 October, 2007
"I'll be long gone before some smart person ever figures out what happened inside this Oval Office."
Washington DC, 12 May, 2008
You want beef? You got beef! You don't want it from the President...
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2500v_george-w-bush-you-dont-want-it-from_fun
Don't kill me for saying what I'm about to say...
but Am I the only one who thinks Bush was an OKAY president? he wasnt as bad as people thought him out to be. and yeah I'm serious.
Sure he's had problems with public speaking but I honestly think he did okay.
waarmstrong
19-01-09, 23:47
Don't kill me for saying what I'm about to say...
but Am I the only one who thinks Bush was an OKAY president? he wasnt as bad as people thought him out to be. and yeah I'm serious.
Sure he's had problems with public speaking but I honestly think he did okay.
As John McEnroe said at Wimbledon in 1981, "Surely, You can't be serious." And don't call me Surely! (Airplane, 1980) Perhaps you would care to list some of W's accomplishments, that balance out his colossal failures and elevate him to the "also ran" category of past US presidents.
off the top of my head.
Fighting against kyoto treaty - and I salute him for doing this.
declaring war on terrorism
tax cut
off the top of my head.
Fighting against kyoto treaty - and I salute him for doing this.
declaring war on terrorism
tax cut
Hello Lando...Only twice in history have we had the "father & son" become President. First time around it was John Adams the 2nd President and his son was the 6th President I believe. During this time the US was dealing with secession from Britian as well and just learning how to stand on her own two feet. The "Father" helped guide the country thru a state of emergency, this was the American Revolution Era. Later the "Son" became one became one of the largest voices in history against slavery, further, the only time in US history where Captured Africans were freed, was during his reign as a US Representative, he was their attorney (Le Amistad was the name of the slave ship, later was the topic of a full length film). Both the father and the son, did great things to help the country find its way. Had it not have been for their contribution, the US would not have existed as you know it today. These are true defining moments in history.
Lets move on the current duo of George Bush Sr. and Jr. The father was famous for his..."Read my lips...No New Taxes" line, but as it turned out, he deceived the people of the US and in fact did raise taxes. Bill Clinton later defeated him because of this. The son then succeeded Bill Clinton, since his debut, it was easily accessed that he had issues way beyond his inability to speak properly. So he cut some taxes, did a bit with the Medicare system. His wife traveled around the US pushing a program to help improve the education system. I can't say it actually did any good other than to provide a smoke screen for his many failures. Honestly, I can't think of a thing he did right.
So, I totally disagree with you...he does not deserve accolades, he was not a champion of the American People, he lost a lot of lives in Afghanistan and many more in Iraq. He continued to deceive and lie about issues...is it a wonder why probably the most popular General in the World, walked out on him. Colin Powell, clearly made the choice to abandon the Bush admins. Further, if he wanted he could have easily defeated Bush for the Presidency in the 2004. But he choose not to run as his wife assured him, he would most certainly be a victim of Assasination. He decided aganst that. I'm glad its over....
As I said, I'm not denying Bush's flaws. He wasn't a great president, I got that. But to say he's the worst President, America has ever had or to say he ruined America is stretching it a bit too far, don't you think? (Hoover is the worst, in my opinion)
Bush did some good and nobody is defending his public speaking skills but he's not that bad and I stand by it. Keep in mind, I'm not a Bush fan. I disagree with him on MANY MANY things esp. the Iraq war (Iraq war and war against terrorism are two different things)In fact, I'd see myself as a democrat. Come to think of it, it's ironic, seeing how I prefer Bush over Kerry and McCain over Obama (yeah you read it right, we can open a new thread to discuss McCain Vs Obama).
I don't know, maybe it's because I'm younger than most of you (just turned 23 here) and not American that influences me to feel this way. Maybe If I were American and older, I would feel much differently and could actually feel the damage that Bush has caused to America.
I apologize If I have offended anyone.
Gees Lando.
C'mon.
Gees.
OMG.
No,no,no.
A loathsome man.
Yukety yuk.
Corpus vile.
Aeternum vale.
A right old rotter and a stinkbomb.
Gees lando...gees.
:eek::eek::eek::eek:
Gees Lando.
C'mon.
Gees.
OMG.
No,no,no.
A loathsome man.
Yukety yuk.
Corpus vile.
Aeternum vale.
A right old rotter and a stinkbomb.
Gees lando...gees.
:eek::eek::eek::eek:
are you trying to turn me on? cuz it's working
As I said, I'm not denying Bush's flaws. He wasn't a great president, I got that. But to say he's the worst President, America has ever had or to say he ruined America is stretching it a bit too far, don't you think? (Hoover is the worst, in my opinion)
Bush did some good and nobody is defending his public speaking skills but he's not that bad and I stand by it. Keep in mind, I'm not a Bush fan. I disagree with him on MANY MANY things esp. the Iraq war (Iraq war and war against terrorism are two different things)In fact, I'd see myself as a democrat. Come to think of it, it's ironic, seeing how I prefer Bush over Kerry and McCain over Obama (yeah you read it right, we can open a new thread to discuss McCain Vs Obama).
I don't know, maybe it's because I'm younger than most of you (just turned 23 here) and not American that influences me to feel this way. Maybe If I were American and older, I would feel much differently and could actually feel the damage that Bush has caused to America.
I apologize If I have offended anyone.
No offence kid...but what do you know of Bush? What do you know of his rise to power? You mentioned 3pts regarding why you feel he was a good president, at the same time you also say that its because of your youth perhaps, you may find it difficult to see things "from my POV"...
Ok..as an American, I realized in times of war, people are required to volunteer their services. I never served in the military, in fact I was staunchly opposed to the draft, as a young man, I spent a great deal of time in Mississippi on the reservation that my forefathers occupy. It was difficult to see them living in such poor conditions. Mind you, not all Indian Reservations have gaming casinos.
I was never a super patriotic individual, I found many things wrong with my country from West Coast to East Coast, for instance, even today, you could drive along I-70 and come across Ku Klux Klan members on the side of the freeway in full wardrobe at 3pm on a Tuesday afternoon, just a bit outside Missouri, near the Illinois border. Of course, a constitutional right guarantees you the freedom of speech...and in this is the ability to worship as you please...the KKK are now a church, practicing what they believe and are protected under the law. Now this is just a slap in the face...but on the other hand...you got Luis Farrakhans men standing at traffic lights pushing you to buy papers to support what cause exactly??? I don't know. But here you have the perfect example of "Polar Opposites"...
Let me assure you this isn't about race...but its about life and how human life should be valued. So I recall an interview when the reporter asked why the Bush children were so special they weren't required to enlist. At that time, I wasn't aware that the entire family was given exclusion from enlisting...So I did some research, seems that several key politicians who voted for the war, also had children who weren't going to serve either...What importance is that? I would watch his silly speeches about how he wanted to apologize to the grieving families of those children he sent to the desert, but his daughters were hanging in nightclubs passing "Fake ID's". I guess that was a real service to the country, one has a marijuana problem (I'm sorry, the only problem is when she DOESN'T have marijuana) and has been afforded special priviledges...it doesn't stop there, when you see how many people in his organization voted for this war...and to send OTHER children to fight it, while there's ran the streets being wild perhaps you would understand...to this current Presidency people are pawns. Lives are expendable. This war on Iraq...stemmed from what? People where upset about the WTC, but how many of the hijackers were Iraqi? If none, why did he immediately chose them to go to war with?
Why did he promise time and time again to bring Bin Laden to justice, but did not tell you that his father was in business with Bin Laden's father, and in fact that Bin Laden and Bush Jr, knew each other? The day after the WTC, all planes were grounded, but several members of the Bin Ladens' family where allowed to leave, yet other people for much less spent what seems like eons in Guantanimo awaiting trial, based on suspicions of being involved with terrorist activities, but the Bin Ladens have a Carte Blanche Card. (To come and go as needed)
This is a flawed system, and the head of the serpent is venomous and he is corrupt as well, how to find allegiance with something so biased. So he is no champion, his education bill is floundering, and so what he cut taxes...only to increase national spending!!! Now he leaves the office, and things are a real mess...Obama will get blamed for every little thing, but there is no clear cut way out of the madness...It doesn't stop here, the Medicare bill was atrocious and nothing more than a weak attempt to divert the attention of the US citizens from his failed policies and personal behavior (his abilility to be honest about the real state of effairs).
off the top of my head.
Fighting against kyoto treaty - and I salute him for doing this.
declaring war on terrorism
tax cut
I wonder, had you been a resident of Baghdad on the night of March 22nd 2003, if you would have a different idea of terrorism?
"A war on terrorism?".....my arse sir.
I wonder, had you been a resident of Baghdad on the night of March 22nd 2003, if you would have a different idea of terrorism?
"A war on terrorism?".....my arse sir.
Rather than give me a sentence of a fact. why don;t u elaborate it to me?
I don't know what happened on the night of march 22nd 2003.
but when I said war on terrorism.. I mean his quick decision to declare war on terrorism shortly after what happened to WTC in NYC. To me, that's something.
No offence kid...but what do you know of Bush? What do you know of his rise to power? You mentioned 3pts regarding why you feel he was a good president, at the same time you also say that its because of your youth perhaps, you may find it difficult to see things "from my POV"...
Ok..as an American, I realized in times of war, people are required to volunteer their services. I never served in the military, in fact I was staunchly opposed to the draft, as a young man, I spent a great deal of time in Mississippi on the reservation that my forefathers occupy. It was difficult to see them living in such poor conditions. Mind you, not all Indian Reservations have gaming casinos.
I was never a super patriotic individual, I found many things wrong with my country from West Coast to East Coast, for instance, even today, you could drive along I-70 and come across Ku Klux Klan members on the side of the freeway in full wardrobe at 3pm on a Tuesday afternoon, just a bit outside Missouri, near the Illinois border. Of course, a constitutional right guarantees you the freedom of speech...and in this is the ability to worship as you please...the KKK are now a church, practicing what they believe and are protected under the law. Now this is just a slap in the face...but on the other hand...you got Luis Farrakhans men standing at traffic lights pushing you to buy papers to support what cause exactly??? I don't know. But here you have the perfect example of "Polar Opposites"...
Let me assure you this isn't about race...but its about life and how human life should be valued. So I recall an interview when the reporter asked why the Bush children were so special they weren't required to enlist. At that time, I wasn't aware that the entire family was given exclusion from enlisting...So I did some research, seems that several key politicians who voted for the war, also had children who weren't going to serve either...What importance is that? I would watch his silly speeches about how he wanted to apologize to the grieving families of those children he sent to the desert, but his daughters were hanging in nightclubs passing "Fake ID's". I guess that was a real service to the country, one has a marijuana problem (I'm sorry, the only problem is when she DOESN'T have marijuana) and has been afforded special priviledges...it doesn't stop there, when you see how many people in his organization voted for this war...and to send OTHER children to fight it, while there's ran the streets being wild perhaps you would understand...to this current Presidency people are pawns. Lives are expendable. This war on Iraq...stemmed from what? People where upset about the WTC, but how many of the hijackers were Iraqi? If none, why did he immediately chose them to go to war with?
Why did he promise time and time again to bring Bin Laden to justice, but did not tell you that his father was in business with Bin Laden's father, and in fact that Bin Laden and Bush Jr, knew each other? The day after the WTC, all planes were grounded, but several members of the Bin Ladens' family where allowed to leave, yet other people for much less spent what seems like eons in Guantanimo awaiting trial, based on suspicions of being involved with terrorist activities, but the Bin Ladens have a Carte Blanche Card. (To come and go as needed)
This is a flawed system, and the head of the serpent is venomous and he is corrupt as well, how to find allegiance with something so biased. So he is no champion, his education bill is floundering, and so what he cut taxes...only to increase national spending!!! Now he leaves the office, and things are a real mess...Obama will get blamed for every little thing, but there is no clear cut way out of the madness...It doesn't stop here, the Medicare bill was atrocious and nothing more than a weak attempt to divert the attention of the US citizens from his failed policies and personal behavior (his abilility to be honest about the real state of effairs).
obviously you know more bush than me. and yes, i have heard about the exclusion thingy and the fact that Bush jr and laden knew each other (my politic teacher kept talking about this all semester, ).
but I've never heard anything about Bush letting go Laden's family when NYC was attacked.
Anway I think we're just running in circle here. All I'm saying is you may feel disappointed in bush but don't forget it was America who chose Bush for the second time around. If you wanna blame someone for ruining America, blame the 51% Americans who voted for him and blame Americans who didn't register to vote. Just let him off the hook for a change.
as for KKK, racism can't and will never go away. It's everywhere. Even in Indonesia, you can see how racists some Chinese Indonesian and native Indonesians are. and we favor more to white people than black people.
I don't think Obama will do any good to America either and no, not because he's black. I just think people voted for him just for the sake of being politically correct and McCain's lack of judgment for choosing Palin.
Obama won
-McCain is wayy too old
-McCain chose Palin. I'm all for girl power but let's face it, she's an idiot.
-Obama looks more like African American than Caucasian. If he were to have more the white look (like Mariah Carey). i don't think he would have gotten this popular.
Lando Calrissian, I would hazard a guess that you are not Muslim. Am I correct?
Black Adder
20-01-09, 22:54
^^^No not Muslim, I believe Lando is of the Troll family, lives under the overpass at the 7UP man (Pasar Minggu).........
Lando Calrissian, I would hazard a guess that you are not Muslim. Am I correct?
No I'm not affiliated with any religious parties,
^^^No not Muslim, I believe Lando is of the Troll family, lives under the overpass at the 7UP man (Pasar Minggu).........
Troll family? :mad: I'd take that as a compliment:cool:
Black Adder
20-01-09, 23:09
No I'm not affiliated with any religious parties,
Troll family? :mad: I'd take that as a compliment:cool:
My point is proven........
and I'm curious how does that make me a troll? o_0
What religion does you KTP (Kartu Tanda Penduduk) show?
Black Adder
20-01-09, 23:26
Bush's main support now comes from god fearing, beer drinking, red necks who most did not even graduate from High School. You strike me as intelligent and none of the above and you are not religious, only a troll could post Bush was a decent President.........
What religion does you KTP (Kartu Tanda Penduduk) show?
Catholic but Buddhism in my school reports and my other academic paperworks.
I was raised as a Buddhist in my family but always attended catholic school since I was a kid. One thing led to another, I just started losing faith in Jesus/Buddha/Allah whatever you wanna call it.
Bush's main support now comes from god fearing, beer drinking, red necks who most did not even graduate from High School. You strike me as intelligent and none of the above and you are not religious, only a troll could post Bush was a decent President.........
You're right. I'm none of the above and I don't drink alcohol. but I'm not a troll and i'm not saying bush is an okay president just because this is the internet. Hang out with me a day and you'll see it yourself :)
My hunch is vindicated! Indonesians tend to view many, if not most, things through the lens of religion. Your views on Bush and the so-called War on Terror are not uncommon among non-Muslims Indonesians for that exact reason.
Sorry, a religious ceremony has no place in the inauguration of a U.S. president.
Black Adder
20-01-09, 23:51
^^^Especially by Rick Warren, what an ass..........
^^^Especially by Rick Warren, what an ass..........
It could have been a "Baker" or "Mr. Graham"...I think not!!!:D Rev Al Sharpton????....definitely not!!!
Helen_of_Troy
21-01-09, 10:53
As I said, I'm not denying Bush's flaws. He wasn't a great president, I got that. But to say he's the worst President, America has ever had or to say he ruined America is stretching it a bit too far, don't you think? (Hoover is the worst, in my opinion)
Bush did some good and nobody is defending his public speaking skills but he's not that bad and I stand by it. Keep in mind, I'm not a Bush fan. I disagree with him on MANY MANY things esp. the Iraq war (Iraq war and war against terrorism are two different things)In fact, I'd see myself as a democrat. Come to think of it, it's ironic, seeing how I prefer Bush over Kerry and McCain over Obama (yeah you read it right, we can open a new thread to discuss McCain Vs Obama).
I don't know, maybe it's because I'm younger than most of you (just turned 23 here) and not American that influences me to feel this way. Maybe If I were American and older, I would feel much differently and could actually feel the damage that Bush has caused to America.
I apologize If I have offended anyone.
Hiya,
Sounds like Blue Dog Democrat...:):)
Blue Dogs are moderate and conservative Democrats that do not support abortion, gay marriages or gun control. There are other issues. Primarily, securing the border to stop the flow of drugs into the United States and the hemorrhage of manufacturing jobs leaving the United States for other countries.
They are much better ....:D
Helen_of_Troy
21-01-09, 11:05
The 'misunderestimated' president?
All politicians are prone to make slips of the tongue in the heat of the moment - and President George W Bush has made more than most.
The word "Bushism" has been coined to label his occasional verbal lapses during eight years in office, which come to an end on 20 January.
Here are some of his most memorable pronouncements.
ON HIMSELF
"They misunderestimated me."
Bentonville, Arkansas, 6 November, 2000
.........................
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Ermmmmm How about this for new President?
Obama's Documented ??: 158 and remarkably still growing
http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/05/documented-lie-50-obama-claimed-he-had.html
158 Obama claims he wrote letter to US Treasurer to try to prevent the housing crisis; but he acted only AFTER he had caused it by blocking McCain's bill
157 Obama claims he is bipartisan ; Congressional Quarterly shows he voted with his party 97% of the time
156 Obama's dirty lie scares seniors: falsely claims McCain plans to cut $880 billion from Medicare: liar liar liar says Annenberg Factcheck
155 Obama lies about his mother turning to food stamps AND still sending him to top schools; his grandmother paid for education
154 Obama lied about being asked to wear dead soldier's bracelet: family had asked Obama to stop wearing it
153 Obama claimed all new spending is economic plan was self-funding; short by $3.5 Trillion says nonpartisan Tax Policy Center
152 Obama denied Admiral Mike Mullen had called Obama's Iraqi troop plan "dangerous"; Mullen made comment on Fox in July 2008 according to WaPo
151 Obama lied about Kissinger's views of diplomacy during first debate; Kissinger confirms the lie
150 During Debate 1 Obama denied voting to tax some people making $42000 a year: Annenburg Factcheck,org confirms Obama is lying
149 After Debate 1, Team Obama denied Obama ever said, "Iran's not a threat": Video proves Obama DID say "Iran is NOT a threat."
148 Obama claims under McCain employers would be taxed on the health care benefits it grants to workers; he's lying
147 Obama refers to an Iraqi surplus of $79 billion and says US should have it; its $60 billion and dwindling
146 Obama claims only 5% of Americans would see tax increase; he's grossly understating the number of people effected
145 Obama accuses McCain of lying about Biden being against clean coal; video proves Obama is lying
144 Obama claims McCain is opposed to abortion in cases of rape or incest; McCain has never held that position.
143 Obama accuses McCain of making an ad about Obama's vote to approve leaving babies who survive abortion procedures to die; McCain did not make the ad
142 Obama's ad on abortion claims BHO always supported medical care to protect infants; text of the Bill he supported shows he wanted babies born alive after abortions to be left to die
141 Obama's ad on abortion uses quotes by journalists who made negative comments about a McCain ad; but Obama is misleading because both journalists have been proven to be incorrect
140 Obama's lying when he says McCain's ad misstated BHO's *** Ed for Kindergartners Bill: McCain's ad was accurate; here's the *** Ed Bill text
139 Obama and Biden both truncate McCain's comments on the strength of the economy's fundamentals: deliberate distortion
138 Biden claims McCain tried to hurt our veterans by denying them educational benefits; NewsWeek confirms Biden is lying
137 Obama claims under McCain, Elderly would have had Social Security tied up in the Stock market; Newsweek cries BS
136 Obama claims his opponent will cut social security in half: NOT true; Obama guilty of scare-mongering aimed at Seniors
135 Biden claims McCain wouldn't help small borrowers hurt by housing crisis; this is untrue according to Newsweek
134 Obama claimed during the primary he had more Ex President Clinton Foreign Policy advisers than Sen. Clinton; she had 70% more
133 Obama claimed his father served in World War 2: his Kenyan-born father never served
132 Obama grossly misquoted Sen.Clinton about her vote on a banking bill; BHO used the false quote to show why voters don't trust Government
131 Obama claimed employers are more likely to be struck by lightning than be prosecuted for employing illegals; Gov stats prove he's lying
130 Pushing his Green agenda Obama claimed Japanese Car average 45 mpg fuel efficiency; its actually around 29 mph
129 Obama disparaged the President saying he hadn't met with auto makers until the sixth year of his presidency; GWB met automakers in April 2003
128 Obama disparaged the efficiency of our healthcare system saying the U.S. spends twice per capita than other countries: WaPo proves he's lying
127 Obama claims President Clinton's Labor Secretary said BHO's healthcare plan, "Does more than anybody to reduce costs"; Robert Reich did NOT say it
126 Obama falsely claimed he won the Michigan Democrat primary: he was not on the ballot
125 Obama's Spanish language ad lies about McCain's position on immigration; tries to stir race-war: lies debunked by ABC
124 Obama lies about his interference in Iraqi negotiations; but his campaign admits his treachery
123 Obama took credit for the economic stimulus package passed in Feb 08; BHO's colleagues on Capitol Hill cry BS
122 Obama claims Big Oil is ignoring 68 million acres of oil fields they could be drilling; most fields are being worked
121 Obama claims never questions his opponent's patriotism; asks of McCain "WHICH country first?": ABC says he's questioning McCain's patriotism
Helen_of_Troy
21-01-09, 11:07
120 Obama claims personal savings rates are lowest since the Great Depression; currently higher than under President Clinton
119 Obama claims on this video that he doesn't switch positions; list of 31 flip flops show he's lying
118 In the Primaries Obama puffed his resume claiming he was a "Professor"; State Senate bio shows he was not ; he now agrees
117 When Obama ran for US Senate his web site claimed "5 years as a community organizer"; he admits it was only 3 years
116 Obama's attack ad in Michigan claims McCain doesn't support loan guarantees for auto-industry. McCain DOES support them
115 Obama says "if we're STILL in recession when he takes office...etc"; the economy is NOT in recession
114 Obama claims he signed up for Selective Service when he graduated from High School; records show he did NOT until he'd been at college 1 year
113 Attacking Palin, Obama has the audacity to claim,"Words mean something; you can't just make things up "; BHO makes stuff up
112 Biden claims McCain will increase taxes for workers & Obama will only increase taxes on those making $435k: he's lying
111 Biden claims Obama drew the Nation's attention to problems at Walter Reed Army Hospital; it was two WaPo reporters that reported the issues to the Nation
110 to make Obama seems more American/less exotic, Biden tells Scranton crowd Obama grew up in Kansas; BHO grew up in Hawaii and Indonesia
109 Obama lies yet again to disparage Gov. Palin; ignores her executive experience as Governor of Alaska
108 Obama says the US economy has failed under Bush; World Bank stats proves Obama's been lying; US a world leader in growth, employment, incomes
107 Obama claims if you are born into poverty in America you are on your own: there are many government programs
106 Obama claims he's bi-partisan: voting records prove Obama is #11 most partisan
105 Claimed Hillary would be on anyone's short-list; Hillary wasn't on Obama's short-list
104 Obama claims abortion rates have not gone down under the Bush Administration; stats show they have gone down
103 Obama dismissed Bomber Bill Ayers as "some guy who lives in the neighborhood";they had a close working relationship
102 Obama claims there's no charge to attend his acceptance speech: CBS 4 in Denver proves he's lying; some tickets cost $1000
101 Obama used being a first-time-buyer to justify consulting with Rezko before he bought his house; BHO had already purchased a residence
100 Obama lies about his support for infanticide; campaign concedes in 03 he opposed a bill stopping the killing of kids born alive after abortions
99 Obama overstates Oil Industry's contributions to McCain; ignores cash the Oil industry gave BHO; Newsweek debunks
98 To belittle America,Obama exaggerated the growth in Debt under the current Administration; debunked by WaPo
97 Obama claims President George W Bush had not left the country before he became President; WaPo confirms he's lying
96 To promote "green", Obama claimed he drove a vehicle that uses ethanol; GM confirmed the model was NOT ethanol-ready
95 Obama claims he's taking his family for a week's rest in Hawaii with no campaigning; schedules a rally for first day
94: Obama claims "properly inflating tires" will save as much energy as we could drill offshore; analysis shows not even close
93 Obama denies accusing McCain of using race against him; ABC, NYT confirm Obama did accuse McCain of making racial attacks
92 Obama claims he's not being political when he's flip-flopping; timing & direction of major flip-flops show he's lying
91: Obama INVENTS a wall between Christians and Jews; deceptively omits the major religious wall is caused by a "fatwah" to kill American Christians and Jews
90 Obama claims he made a substantive call for Germany to help in Iraq; Berlin speech transcript proves he's lying
89: Obama admits he underestimated the decline in violence from the Surge; falsely claims McCain made same mistake
88 Obama turned a disappointing crowd of 20,000 into media reports of 200,000
87 Obama lied about his father's religious upbringing! half-brother confirms Obama's father was "RAISED Muslim"
86 Obama claimed we only made one fundraising trip to Florida during the Primary; Florida papers proved he lied
85 Claims reducing obesity to 80's levels would save Medicaid ONE TRILLION DOLLARS; not even close
84 To make Iraq/Afghan Wars look bad, Obama claimed demands on Nat Guard personnel hurt flood relief; Guards prove lying
83 Claimed due to overseas commitments, too few helecopters were available to help with Midwest flood relief; now concedes not true
82 Starting in Iowa, Obama claimed Clinton's healthcare plan would "punish families that couldn't afford healthcare"; NYT calls BS
81 Obama claims McCain's tax plan will do nothing to help the middle-class: The Tax Policy Center proves he's lying
80 claims the use of an Email with a big red DONATE button is NOT a fundraising solicitation
79 Obama claims his trip to Europe was non-political: uses video of Berlin speech to raise money within hours
78 Tells NBC that during the debate on the Surge he said the Surge would work in Baghdad; video proves during the debate he said the opposite
77 Obama's "Changing World" ad claims he'll fast-track alternatives to oil to stop us buying from hostile nations; "fast track" is totally misleading
76 Obama tells Israeli media that he's a member of the Senate Banking Committee; CNN confirms he's delusional
75 Obama claims Lou Dobbs caused hate crimes against Latinos to double; the FBI and CNN confirm Obama is lying
74 Obama claims the military brass think like he does; top US commanders say his plan for Iraq is unworkable
73: Obama promised to filibust FISA; later Obama voted for FISA and now denies changing his position
72 Obama belittles Americans claiming we can't speak European languages; he's talking merde; mierda; Scheiße
Helen_of_Troy
21-01-09, 11:10
71 Obama denied he accused President Bush of starting the War for political reasons; Russert transcript proves Obama made that false claim
70 Obama claims there has been substantial job losses from NAFTA; Independent studies show its at least" job neutral"
69 Claimed in Feb 08 he got 90% of funds from donors giving $25, $50; fed filings show he got only about a third from donors below $200
68 Obama rewrites history about what specifically he had said during his October 2002 anti-war speech
67 Obama claimed in 04 that he had never supported bringing troops out of Iraq; rare video of 03 Teamsters rally shows he's lying
66 Obama lied about the softness of the Stock Market to support his false claim the War was being used to distract the public
65 To justify move to private funds, Obama claims McCain's campaign is" fuelled" by PACs and Lobbyists; its less than 2% of McCain's money
64 Obama's "Dignity" ad claims he "worked his way" thru college and law school; campaign admits only two summer jobs
63 Obama's "Dignity" ad gives him credit for reducing Welfare rolls by 80%: he's deceptive as he was opposed to Fed Welfare Reform in '96
62 In Obama's The Country I love ad, he takes credit for passing a healthcare bill he did NOT vote for
61 Claims he first ran in Chicago as an unendorsed candidate; his '96 election questionnaire proves he had several
60 Obama claims he wants a vigorous and open debate on the issues: then goes out of his way to avoid it
59 Obama omits key details about a false rumor re video of Michelle's "whitey" rant to justify breaking his public funding promise
58 Obama tries to deceive about why he voted "present" more than 100 times in the Illinois Senate; Chicago paper reveals the truth
57 Trying to claim patriotism Obama says his grandad signed up the day after Pearl Harbor; army records disagree
56 Claims race and party not important to how people vote as they put America first; 93% block vote disproves
55 On June 5, Obama stated that Israel must remain undivided; June 6 on CNN he reversed his position, but denied he had done so
54 To further his own agenda, Obama grossly overstates the number of potential African-American votes in MS, GA, SC
53 Promise of $2500 reduction in Healthcare premiums needs billions in Admin cost savings by 2012: not possible
52 Obama omits to mention his 3 week trip to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan until it slips out trying to out-do Clinton
51 Obama claims McCain wants to wage a lengthy war in Iraq: Video proves Obama's lying
50 Obama claimed he never prayed in a mosque; his campaign had to retract that statement
49 Obama dishonestly used endorsements in ads to pump up his healthcare plan
48 Claims he never discussed politics with Pastor; rebutted by photo of Obama with team of lobbyists led by Wright
47 Obama, an expert at parsing words, claimed he wasn't familiar with the word "Clintonian"; then changed his story
46 Despite reeking of cigarettes, Obama denied smoking to ABC; now admits smoking on MSNBC
45 Obama said he'd meet unconditionally with Leader of Iran: now claims he "didn't have Ahmadinejad in mind"
44 Obama claims he is using public financing to avoid special interests: WSJ nails his switcheroo
43 Obama's rhetoric claims more young black men in jail than college: BoJ Stats disprove
42 Claims he never said he was a proponent of single-payer universal healthcare; Video proves he did
41 Obama claims remarks to industrialists were greeted with silence, shows he can deliver tough message: video of ovation
40 Obamas claim you dont rip opponents & leave on roadside:he did to Alice Palmer
39 Obama denies saying Indiana could be tie-breaker: he did
38 Obama omits that Pastor Wright led divestiture campaign from Israel
37 Obama claims Church not controversial; he knew it was controversial since 86
36 Lied about intention of taking US out of NAFTA
35 Obamas claim poverty growing up: both distort reality
34 Obama denies meeting Saddam's Auchi; sworn Fed. witness places Obama at undisclosed party for Auchi at Rezkos
33 Obama lies about not attacking Clinton over her Bosnia lies
32 Obama claims he passed ethics reform; ABC News shows he lied
31 Obama says he's consistently opposed NAFTA; in October 2007 he supported expansion to Peru
30 Obama claims he's above dirty political tricks; Clinton proves he lies
29 Obama claims his "bitter" remarks were mangled; then repeats attacks on guns religion and angry people
28 Obama claims never said he wouldn't wear US flag-pin; video shows he did
27 Obama says he did no favors for Rezko;untrue; he lobbied for him
26 Changes story repeatedly re Rezko's help in buying mansion
25 Obama claims he never supported a ban on handguns; he has twice
Helen_of_Troy
21-01-09, 11:12
24 Obama claims stays at UCC as Pastor acknowledged comments were inappropriate; Wright never made this statement
23 Campaign is beholden to "only the people" as unlike McCain/Clinton he does not take lobbyist /PAC money; LIES!
22 Claims campaign never called Canada to say Obama not truthful re wanting leave NAFTA; smoking gun memo proves lied
21 Mrs Obama admits she's never been proud of America; Video disproves Sen. Obama's later claim she was misquoted
20 Claimed would not run for President, as he would not be qualified by 2008: confirmed 3 times to Tim Russert in one 2006 interview
19 Claims famous in Il. for not letting lobbyists even buy him lunch; took from teachers, trial lawyers, hospital admins
18 Claims his parents met at Selma civil rights march; Washington Post noted it occurred 4 yrs after Obama's birth
17 BO claims courageously opposed war in 2002 during US Senate campaign; He did not announce his senate bid until 2003
16 Claims he passes tough Nuclear Law; NYT uncovers he took Nuclear Industry pay-off and watered down the bill
15 Claimed he didn't know Rezko was corrupt when did a real estate deal with him; Chicago papers prove he lied
14 Claims does not accept money from Big Oil: Real Clear Politics proves he lied
13 Denies using his Hopefund PAC to influence endorsers; but the Washington Post reviewed the record and disagreed
12 Claims his State Chair is not a drug company lobbyist; Time magazine cries Bull****
11 Lies about how much he received in campaign funds from Rezko; forced to significantly increase the amount twice
10 Claims he did not fill out the 1996 candidate questionaire; Politico proves he lied
9 Took credit for achievement of others in Chicago; resume puffing exposed by LA Times
8 Claims he kept no State Senate records; now he changes his story
7 Denies doubling wife's salary was due to becoming US Senator; omits within months he earmarked $1 million for hospital
6 Denied meeting Saddam bagman Auchi; now admits he was at his dinner but does not remember talking to him
5 Denies using his church for politics: IRS disagree
4 Claims he was unaware of Pastor Wrights 911 comments: NYT proves he lied
3 Claims his father was a goat-herd; actually he was a man of privilige
2 Claims not an active muslim as child; Indonesian paper proves he lied
1 Claims father linked to Kennedys; Washington Post proves he lied
OH LA LA:confused::confused::confused:
Black Adder
21-01-09, 11:13
Well Helen, at least your Hero "W" finished his term with an approval rating above Nixon........
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