View Full Version : Excuse me sir, are you bonking a pro?
said the boss of the sqad of coppers at my hotel room door.
Full story later.
Nice opening, makes you wondering what's coming next. It would do fine as the first sentence of a novel....;)
I admit I had confused Mas Rob with Mas Fred before (no I'm not saying one is preferred over the other!)
:wacko::decision::sorry:
I'm on holiday and typing on the HP is a pain so you'll have to wait a bit.
Nosey ruddy coppers. Of course I wasn't bonking, I was with my wife.
Fred, you have a real gripper first line. Persist we want the story
SOP of the coppers... Just show them ID for both you and the wife, and tell him to go home and get some himself....
nd_eric_77
23-03-11, 08:53
OK, I am quite curious, did the pak polisi actually use the word, "bonking"? If not, what were his exact words?
There must have been something that triggered them to ask.... is there an age difference between you and the wife?
Please share when you have time... and tell us where you are and the name of the hotel/motel....
On a tip off from hotel staff, a police officer attends.
The constable knocks, knocks again and at last the door is opened by a sheep.
Fred: Maaaa!
Officer: Excuse me sir, are you bonking a prostitute?
It could have also been the pizza delivery guy who tipped off the coppers...
Did you give the delivery guy a tip for the pizza Mas Fred?? It would have probably been best practice and now he has found another way to extort.
Please oh please, MattD...may I add to your above #9...I cannot help myself....
On a tip off from hotel staff, a police officer attends.
The constable knocks, knocks again and at last the door is opened by a sheep.
Fred: Maaaa!
Officer: Excuse me sir, are you bonking a prostitute?
Fred: No! bodoh... I'm bonking a sheep.
Officer: Oh!...:o...then that's ok pak...selamat malam.
If I may add too....
On a tip off from hotel staff, a police officer attends.
The constable knocks, knocks again and at last the door is opened by a sheep.
Fred: Maaa asalamu alaikum!
Officer: Excuse me sir, are you bonking a prostitute?
Fred: No, bego!... I'm bonking a sheep, mau ikutan gak??
Officer: Oh!...http://cdn.livinginindonesiaforum.org/images/smilies/redface.png...then that's ok pak...selamat menikmati!
They may have also suspected KDRT - Kenikmatan Dalam Ruangan Tertutup!
coucou.cherie
23-03-11, 10:10
If I may add too....
On a tip off from hotel staff, a police officer attends.
The constable knocks, knocks again and at last the door is opened by a sheep.
Fred: Maaa asalamu alaikum!
Officer: Excuse me sir, are you bonking a prostitute?
Fred: No, bego!... I'm bonking a sheep, mau ikutan gak??
Officer: Oh!...http://cdn.livinginindonesiaforum.org/images/smilies/redface.png...then that's ok pak...selamat menikmati!
They may have also suspected KDRT - Kenikmatan Dalam Ruangan Tertutup!
http://cdn.livinginindonesiaforum.org/images/smilies/pound.gifhttp://cdn.livinginindonesiaforum.org/images/smilies/pound.gifhttp://cdn.livinginindonesiaforum.org/images/smilies/pound.gif
I threw up my morning coffee....
Sky Garden
23-03-11, 10:11
On a tip off from hotel staff, a police officer attends.
The constable knocks, knocks again and at last the door is opened by a sheep.
Fred: Maaaa!
Officer: Excuse me sir, are you bonking a prostitute?
Sheep: No! bodoh... He is my boyfriend.
Officer: Goodness, a talking sheep
http://cdn.livinginindonesiaforum.org/images/smilies/pound.gifhttp://cdn.livinginindonesiaforum.org/images/smilies/pound.gifhttp://cdn.livinginindonesiaforum.org/images/smilies/pound.gif
I threw up my morning coffee....
It's owkey... I will buy you another cup of coffee ;)
coucou.cherie
23-03-11, 10:41
It's owkey... I will buy you another cup of coffee ;)
hmmm... cant wait... seriously! :D
hmmm... cant wait... seriously! :D
Mie 2.... Like mie instant. Fast!
coucou.cherie
23-03-11, 10:50
Mie 2.... Like mie instant. Fast!
awas ya, if you lie!
awas ya, if you lie!
Lie down mksdnya? Why not?
Looks like an invitation for SSDP neh!
coucou.cherie
23-03-11, 10:54
Lie down mksdnya? Why not?
why not, lie down on me???????? hiks! http://cdn.livinginindonesiaforum.org/images/smilies/nono.gif
Permisi to add....Sky...this is fun!
On a tip off from hotel staff, a police officer attends.
The constable knocks, knocks again and at last the door is opened by a sheep.
Fred: Maaaa!
Officer: Excuse me sir, are you bonking a prostitute?
Sheep: No! bodoh... He is my boyfriend.
Officer: Goodness, a talking sheep...gets on his walki-talki to HQ.
Officer; Boss...Mayday...I have a talking sheep sexually entertaining a Bule. What to do?
HQ: Hmmm....OK...Check the passport to see if overstay visa.
Officer: Duh...Which passport....the Bule or the Sheep?
Sky Garden
23-03-11, 11:31
Permisi to add....Sky...this is fun!
On a tip off from hotel staff, a police officer attends.
The constable knocks, knocks again and at last the door is opened by a sheep.
Fred: Maaaa!
Officer: Excuse me sir, are you bonking a prostitute?
Sheep: No! bodoh... He is my boyfriend.
Officer: Goodness, a talking sheep...gets on his walki-talki to HQ.
Officer; Boss...Mayday...I have a talking sheep sexually entertaining a Bule. What to do?
HQ: Hmmm....OK...Check the passport to see if overstay visa.
Officer: Duh...Which passport....the Bule or the Sheep?
:pound:
Would that be a single or multiple exit re entry permit you have there sir?
Did they ask proof of ownership for your bicycle Mas Fred?
coucou.cherie
23-03-11, 15:16
Looks like an invitation for SSDP neh!
wat is SSDP??
curious MODE : ON
wat is SSDP??
curious MODE : ON
Siang-siang Di atas Perut...
coucou.cherie
23-03-11, 17:51
Siang-siang Di atas Perut...
SSJ detected
I moved hotel. No pros here.
I asked reception before I checked in.
Me - Do you let tarts in here.
Hotel dude - We don't allow that sort of thing sir.
My case -Baaaaaaaa
roti bakar
23-03-11, 20:10
Is this for real mas?
Sorry....I am still amazed.
yep.
12 midnight last night and the cops were asking for our ID. They went to every room sweeping for pros.
I couldn't ruddy sleep after that so I'm too knackered to bonk anyone at the moment.
(maybe a blonde sex starved bonkaholic on death row but only if she asked really nicely)
roti bakar
23-03-11, 21:40
yep.
12 midnight last night and the cops were asking for our ID. They went to every room sweeping for pros.
Just wonder....
Why they ask for ID?
I understand in the case of single women.....
but if both have married under the status on ID, they won't know who you marry to anyway
yep.
12 midnight last night and the cops were asking for our ID. They went to every room sweeping for pros.
Typical religious police... they concentrate on the pros and ignore the cons.
roti bakar
23-03-11, 23:32
Typical religious police... they concentrate on the pros and ignore the cons.
Religious police like in Aceh
or like the one in Bali?
Sky Garden
23-03-11, 23:40
Religious police like in Aceh
or like the one in Bali?
Wanna expand on that?
roti bakar
23-03-11, 23:47
Wanna expand on that?
Not really...
I just know that one is legal and one is formed from cultural thing (if I'm not mistaken)
Unless you want to explain further...which I would like to read :)
I moved hotel. No pros here.
I asked reception before I checked in.
Me - Do you let tarts in here.
Hotel dude - We don't allow that sort of thing sir.
My case -Baaaaaaaa
My version:
"Do you have tarts here?"
"Sir, we're a hotel, not Holland Bakery!"
Sky Garden
24-03-11, 00:00
Not really...
I just know that one is legal and one is formed from cultural thing (if I'm not mistaken)
Unless you want to explain further...which I would like to read :)
I started a reply trying to explain but it got a bit complicated, so best i think we just leave it. PM me if you really, really want an explanation.
Hombre de Maiz
24-03-11, 00:50
That's what you get for staying in Rp. 100ribu lovetels...
Fredddddddddddd... slightly- well totally off topic... but I just found this... oh pmsl... <i abhor the use of the N word in it- the rest was too funny to miss tho>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1mdCdhrn7k
Walking a sheep through a hotel lobby . Now that is a walk of shame
hard to get on line from the middle of nowhere but the OP is true. Details when I get home.
Hidden camera footage revealed the horrid truth...
http://www.maniacworld.com/sheep-thinks-she-is-a-dog.html
:dance:
I've found a warnet so, while my old Gert and Michelle are still asleep, I'll tell you a a story.
(Forgive any typos - a load of keys don't have the letters printed on them)
On Tuesday afternoon, we decided to visit my wife's sister in a place called Cipepus. (By "we", I mean my wife did so and I have to agree).
I got home from work to be informed the hire car was due to arrive in an hour. That didn't give me a deal of time to shower, pack and generally sort out but I almost managed.
I, unlike Ford Prefect, forgot my towel but that was about all. I stuffed everything into my small rucksack just as the car arrived.
The road to Bogor is easy. Toll road all the way so it didn't take long at all but, after Bogor, it's terrible. The roads are in a horrible state and there is way too much traffic for such small streets. My wife (My old Gert) doesn't travel well but Michelle is far worse. She'd already puked by the time we got to Lebak Bulus and managed a further 7 times before we got here. I almost ran out of small plastic bags.
The point is, it was dark by the time we arrived in Citepus and raining cats and dogs just to make things worse. We were all knackered so we just went for the first hotel we saw (That didn't look filthy). What we didn't know it it was a worker's transit hotel where the guys traveling take pros for a bonking session. I should have guessed by the number of vans outside the rooms. Ho hum, it'll do for as night.
However, at just before midnight a loud. and very urgent, knocking at the door could hardly be failed to be heard unless you'd been dead for 20 years. I was still half asleep and brain dead (Hmmmm, normal 23 hours a day for me) but opened the door anyway trying to look as scary as possible to whatever idiot was knocking at that time of night.
The idiot turned out to be the gaffer of the load of coppers stood around the door and all over the hotel.
"Gosh" (But employing the old Anglo Saxon spelling of the word), thought I, "What do that lot want?"
It turns out they wanted ID for me and the tart they suspected I had employed but it never got as far as opening my wallet to show my large collection of cards as they saw Michelle asleep on the bed and assumed prostitutes didn't take their 3 year old kids to work.
Obviously they'd never heard of Gary Glitter.
The problem now was. I couldn't get back to sleep. I'd opened the door half expecting to have to slap some cretin so I was seriously disturbed. That in mind, I went for a stroll and took in the sights. All I saw was a karaoke bar and a pair of drunks trying to kill themselves by riding a motorbike.
I moved hotels as soon as possible the next morning..
Fredddddddddddd... slightly- well totally off topic... but I just found this... oh pmsl... <i abhor the use of the N word in it- the rest was too funny to miss tho>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1mdCdhrn7k
That vid is flagged so I'll wait until I get home and download it.
Flagged vids are generally good.
The new hotel is 200 ribu
Just wonder....
Why they ask for ID?
I understand in the case of single women.....
but if both have married under the status on ID, they won't know who you marry to anyway
They do that, because husband and wife should have the same address in their KTP.
They do that, because husband and wife should have the same address in their KTP.
And the same religion?
And the same religion?
Expats religion is not noted on the KIP, which equivalent to the local KTP. Another loop hole that works during such situations I guess....
And the same religion?
I don't think they would pay attention to the religion on the KTP, same address is the only focus on raid like that as the indication for a married couple.
Been to a hotel on a trip once with the hubby, but was refused to stay there because I haven't change the KTP to the current address. I guess its some kind of preventive action by the hotel to avoid such raid by the police.
I don't think they would pay attention to the religion on the KTP, same address is the only focus on raid like that as the indication for a married couple.
Been to a hotel on a trip once with the hubby, but was refused to stay there because I haven't change the KTP to the current address. I guess its some kind of preventive action by the hotel to avoid such raid by the police.
My wife uses her own family name, has a different nationality to me and there is no address in our passports. I guess foreigners get treated differently.
My wife uses her own family name, has a different nationality to me and there is no address in our passports. I guess foreigners get treated differently.
As I mentioned before... there is a big loop hole and inconsistency... It is an advantage for some and none for some...
Hombre de Maiz
24-03-11, 14:11
They do that because it is rural West Java. Remember West Java and Banten are probably the epicenter of the religious trends we've discussed extensively elsewhere on the forum. You don't believe me. Just read Cup1981 litany of complaints about Tasik which even led him to apostasy!
I am surprised Fred, with his immense knowledge of the country, was not privy to this knowledge about the roads and the "social conditions" in rural West Java.
It's not only W. Java... but everywhere... Province of Riau is just as bad. It's all about making the $$$ more than nforcing laws/values.
On another note... what happen to Cup1981?? Doesn't post much after all that hassle and patients of his for getting his paperwork?
Hombre de Maiz
24-03-11, 14:19
It's not only W. Java... but everywhere... Province of Riau is just as bad. ...
Careful there with those words. You might find yourself the target of a Straw Man about systemic radicalization...
I am surprised Fred, with his immense knowledge of the country, was not privy to this knowledge about the roads and the "social conditions" in rural West Java.
I'm surprised you've got the cheek to stay in a country you moan about so much. If I hated a place as much as you hate Indonesia, I'd have buggered off a long time ago.
Hombre de Maiz
24-03-11, 15:13
In Bali, we are isolated to a considerable extent from incidents such as these, Mas Fred. Plus the place is more accustomed to foreigners. But truth be told, I have been giving more and more thought to moving on...
But I am surprised that a religious and pious man such as you doesn't feel right at home in the Priangan, the birthplace of Darul Islam. After all, fornication is still a sin, and you should be sympathetic to the authorities for seeking to crack down on suspected and potential "immoral" activity that go against the your "deeply held beliefs".
By the way, were the police doing a fine job of traffic control on those roads and easing vehicular congestion as well? Or were their activities limited to knocking on people's hotel doors in the middle of the night seeking to stem the tide of immorality?
I've found a warnet so, while my old Gert and Michelle are still asleep, I'll tell you a a story.
(Forgive any typos - a load of keys don't have the letters printed on them)
On Tuesday afternoon, we decided to visit my wife's sister in a place called Cipepus. (By "we", I mean my wife did so and I have to agree).
I got home from work to be informed the hire car was due to arrive in an hour. That didn't give me a deal of time to shower, pack and generally sort out but I almost managed.
I, unlike Ford Prefect, forgot my towel but that was about all. I stuffed everything into my small rucksack just as the car arrived.
The road to Bogor is easy. Toll road all the way so it didn't take long at all but, after Bogor, it's terrible. The roads are in a horrible state and there is way too much traffic for such small streets. My wife (My old Gert) doesn't travel well but Michelle is far worse. She'd already puked by the time we got to Lebak Bulus and managed a further 7 times before we got here. I almost ran out of small plastic bags.
The point is, it was dark by the time we arrived in Citepus and raining cats and dogs just to make things worse. We were all knackered so we just went for the first hotel we saw (That didn't look filthy). What we didn't know it it was a worker's transit hotel where the guys traveling take pros for a bonking session. I should have guessed by the number of vans outside the rooms. Ho hum, it'll do for as night.
However, at just before midnight a loud. and very urgent, knocking at the door could hardly be failed to be heard unless you'd been dead for 20 years. I was still half asleep and brain dead (Hmmmm, normal 23 hours a day for me) but opened the door anyway trying to look as scary as possible to whatever idiot was knocking at that time of night.
The idiot turned out to be the gaffer of the load of coppers stood around the door and all over the hotel.
"Gosh" (But employing the old Anglo Saxon spelling of the word), thought I, "What do that lot want?"
It turns out they wanted ID for me and the tart they suspected I had employed but it never got as far as opening my wallet to show my large collection of cards as they saw Michelle asleep on the bed and assumed prostitutes didn't take their 3 year old kids to work.
Obviously they'd never heard of Gary Glitter.
The problem now was. I couldn't get back to sleep. I'd opened the door half expecting to have to slap some cretin so I was seriously disturbed. That in mind, I went for a stroll and took in the sights. All I saw was a karaoke bar and a pair of drunks trying to kill themselves by riding a motorbike.
I moved hotels as soon as possible the next morning..
Wouahahahahahahah!! LOL! Too funny!
That is why I love living here : There is always something crazy happening to prevent us to get bored!
Wouahahahahahahah!! LOL! Too funny!
That is why I love living here : There is always something crazy happening to prevent us to get bored!
Very correct! Never a dull moment. Just when you thought you knew everything (like some), something changes tomorrow, or something new is established... but after the day we call it UUD....
ScooterIndo
24-03-11, 15:51
Police dont care about morals just the money they can squeeze out of you. I lived in a road in Bali that had about 6 knocking shops on it a few years ago (now all gone to make space for luxury villas) every night like clockwork the police would do the rounds 2-3 times a night. The owner would just come out and stick a 20.000 note into their hands and they would simply drive off.
coucou.cherie
24-03-11, 16:00
Wouahahahahahahah!! LOL! Too funny!
That is why I love living here : There is always something crazy happening to prevent us to get bored!
Very correct! Never a dull moment. Just when you thought you knew everything (like some), something changes tomorrow, or something new is established... but after the day we call it UUD....
I take that as a compliment for my country. And Tja, UUD never-ever changes, as it was created in the early days of independent day.
those who always change like a bit*h changing clothes are Undang Undang, which created by the recent DPR members.
And Tja, UUD never-ever changes, as it was created in the early days of independent day.
those who always change like a bit*h changing clothes are Undang Undang, which created by the recent DPR members.
I thought you are good in slang abbreviations. UUD Tja refering to is not Undang Undang Dasar, honey.
coucou.cherie
24-03-11, 16:15
I thought you are good in slang abbreviations. UUD Tja refering to is not Undang Undang Dasar, honey.
http://cdn.livinginindonesiaforum.org/images/smilies/laugh.gif Ujung-Ujungnya Duit ya????
roti bakar
24-03-11, 17:03
They do that, because husband and wife should have the same address in their KTP.
SHOULD???
What if the other one doesn't have KTP.
Like....If I visit Indonesia...my husband will be on tourist visa.
SHOULD???
What if the other one doesn't have KTP.
Like....If I visit Indonesia...my husband will be on tourist visa.
You could carry your marriage certificate or sometimes wedding rings would do :)
roti bakar
24-03-11, 17:20
You could carry your marriage certificate or sometimes wedding rings would do :)
Well...Nickie...In Alia's case....I bet she was wearing her wedding ring too.
Agree on the wedding certificate...always carry the copy everywhere when travelling in Indonesia.
think_tank
24-03-11, 18:05
That vid is flagged so I'll wait until I get home and download it.
Flagged vids are generally good.
Bloody good song, thanks for posting! haha!
I keep a copy of all docs in jpg format on my phone and on a drive so I can show or copy anything quickly.
That's been handy many a time.
I keep a copy of all docs in jpg format on my phone and on a drive so I can show or copy anything quickly.
That's been handy many a time.
That is a damm fine idea, why didn't I think of that
alta alatis patent
24-03-11, 18:57
Me and boyfriend drove to Bandung last weekend. We always stays in (at least) four stars hotels. We passed some pretty small villas on our way to the city center.
BF: "We should try to make out in one of those places someday, Hon. I bet the wall is not sound proof. I want to see how quiet you could go."
Me: "Sure.. but you have to marry me first."
BF: "Ahh, I see. Let's stick with Marbella then."
That is a damm fine idea, why didn't I think of that
No need to kick yourself over it.
Not many people are as clever as me. (or have sweeter poops). :tongue1:
owkey dehhh Om Hombre
Don't worry TJA, Hombre just likes to call names toward ideas he doesn't like. At least it's a step up from calling people names.
UUD has been around for ages, and any sane person knows Indonesian cops are mostly (if not solely) interested in lining their own pockets. It's just that some areas are worse than others. He doesn't say it outright, but he likes to imply that the police is doing it as part of a systemic effort to promote a religion, rather than an effort to enrich themselves.
In short: I agree with you.
think_tank
25-03-11, 00:40
Me and boyfriend drove to Bandung last weekend. We always stays in (at least) four stars hotels. We passed some pretty small villas on our way to the city center.
BF: "We should try to make out in one of those places someday, Hon. I bet the wall is not sound proof. I want to see how quiet you could go."
Me: "Sure.. but you have to marry me first."
BF: "Ahh, I see. Let's stick with Marbella then."
Ha ha what is a Marbella? :P
alta alatis patent
25-03-11, 02:30
Ha ha what is a Marbella? :P
The Marbella Suites is a four stars hotel in Bandung.
oh
i thought u meant u prefer to vacation in that deluxe tourist hotspot in spain!!!
in between tenerife and lanzarote!
alta alatis patent
25-03-11, 13:57
oh
i thought u meant u prefer to vacation in that deluxe tourist hotspot in spain!!!
in between tenerife and lanzarote!
no no. stingy bf, remember? :biggrin:
ScooterIndo
25-03-11, 15:57
oh
i thought u meant u prefer to vacation in that deluxe tourist hotspot in spain!!!
in between tenerife and lanzarote!
No they would have to be Chavs to go there, The marbella in Bandung is so much more classier.
coucou.cherie
25-03-11, 16:36
oh
i thought u meant u prefer to vacation in that deluxe tourist hotspot in spain!!!
in between tenerife and lanzarote!
U're not totally wrong. Marbella is a spanish hotel. Never been to Marbella Bandung, but in Anyer several times.
I laugh everytime translating it into french phrase: BelleMer(e) http://cdn.livinginindonesiaforum.org/images/smilies/lol.gif
You lot are quick to assume the cops were after spare cash.
I can assure you, you're wrong. Rather than spouting my gob off with assumptions, I found out what was really going on.
It is based on religious ideals but they are trying to clean up a pro problem along with an AIDS problem. Seems things were getting silly so they are having a clamp down. I went for a walk a short time after and saw a few rooms empty with doors left open but bags still inside.
Enjoy your errors.
roti bakar
25-03-11, 18:22
You lot are quick to assume the cops were after spare cash.... I went for a walk a short time after and saw a few rooms empty with doors left open but bags still inside.
but mas.....usually the police will ask for more money when they already arrive in the police office. The family can pay as much as 1 million if they already arrive in police station to release them. That happens with many "joki" or beggars that were captured by police or pamong praja
That may well be true in many cases but I understand they are really going for this one.
AIDS posters around town and conversations with locals all give the same message. I'm in a small village having this very conversation at the moment.
Seems the problem needs sorting and local pressure, not police pocket money, is behind it.
You lot are quick to assume the cops were after spare cash.
I can assure you, you're wrong. Rather than spouting my gob off with assumptions, I found out what was really going on.
It is based on religious ideals but they are trying to clean up a pro problem along with an AIDS problem. Seems things were getting silly so they are having a clamp down. I went for a walk a short time after and saw a few rooms empty with doors left open but bags still inside.
Enjoy your errors.
Oh sure Fred, the police would do real work from time to time. Unfortunately it's the exception rather than the norm. Maybe I'm wrong for this particular case, but I'm quite confident that in general they are corrupt.
Typical religious police... they concentrate on the pros and ignore the cons.
Hahahaha, I really did lol at that one.
roti bakar
25-03-11, 22:03
That may well be true in many cases but I understand they are really going for this one.
AIDS posters around town and conversations with locals all give the same message. I'm in a small village having this very conversation at the moment.
Seems the problem needs sorting and local pressure, not police pocket money, is behind it.
I guess....there might be a big project for the district level on HIV/AIDS with big fund as well...if that's really the case.
I never heard any bupati or gubernur that has a program on fighting to eliminate HIV/AIDS, except for Papua
Hombre de Maiz
25-03-11, 23:07
You lot are quick to assume the cops were after spare cash.
I can assure you, you're wrong. Rather than spouting my gob off with assumptions, I found out what was really going on.
It is based on religious ideals but they are trying to clean up a pro problem along with an AIDS problem. Seems things were getting silly so they are having a clamp down. I went for a walk a short time after and saw a few rooms empty with doors left open but bags still inside.
Enjoy your errors.
So what you're saying is that I was a lot closer to the truth than, say,....hhmmmm.....Injun?
...which begs the question: if it's a place where "deeply held beliefs" are honored and prized, why do they have a pro and AIDS problem in the first place? Correct me if I am wrong, but you have previously lectured the forum on the superiority of Islam in preventing the social ills so prevalent in the West. What gives? You'll excuse for being a tad confused...
So what you're saying is that I was a lot closer to the truth than, say,....hhmmmm.....Injun?
...which begs the question: if it's a place where "deeply held beliefs" are honored and prized, why do they have a pro and AIDS problem in the first place? Correct me if I am wrong, but you have previously lectured the forum on the superiority of Islam in preventing the social ills so prevalent in the West. What gives? You'll excuse for being a tad confused...
Your usual bigotry.
Firstly, who says it's just Muslims using the pros?
I've never claimed there weren't bad Muslims. You, as usual, made it up to suit your own argument.
If everyone followed Islam, there would be no AIDS problem as it was, and still is, mostly an STD.
A further several conversations backed up my first few. Locals were fed up of the pros so demanded action.
I believe your confusion may be down to you putting your hatred and bigotry aside to make life easier when you got married. You'll become what you hate for your own convenience but still tell the world how crap Islam is.
Hope that explains it.
Hombre de Maiz
26-03-11, 01:00
So wait...non-Muslim outsiders were taking non-Muslim so-called "pros" into an overwhelmingly Muslim area to shag? That doesn't sound right...Man, West Java is even more screwed up than I previously thought. Kartosuwirjo must be rolling in his grave!
roti bakar
26-03-11, 08:21
Kartosuwirjo must be rolling in his grave!
Who is Kartosuwiryo???
Who is Kartosuwiryo???
A nutcase who had trouble to understand the meaning of diversity.
Negara Islam Indonesia (http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negara_Islam_Indonesia)
Snowy city
28-03-11, 19:55
I. My wife (My old Gert) doesn't travel well but Michelle is far worse. She'd already puked by the time we got to Lebak Bulus and managed a further 7 times before we got here. I almost ran out of small plastic bags..
Take Antimo before traveling....Your wife and daughter will feel better.
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