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Irv90402

15-11-08, 22:00

I am wondering if anyone knows the going pay for teachers here in Indonesia? Can anyone give me a general idea what the hourly pay would be for a foreign teacher(English speaking) teaching in a national Indonesian school (Junior/senior hight school)?

indotom

16-11-08, 06:56

I can tell you that English First language schools pay 8,000,000 RP per month ($720) with some kind of health insurance and a return plane ticket home. Thats all I know about teacher salary here.

Dee_Ann

17-11-08, 08:56

it depends on the schools, i dont really know the actual salary but probably 5,000,000 RP above, try to apply in international schools.

kel227

17-11-08, 19:55

Thank you all for your responses and helpful hints.

Endahk

19-11-08, 22:29

Freddy boy,

Rp 8,000,000/month in Indonesia is still to be consider as a high salary. Somebody (Indonesian) start a new job in Indo probably only get paid around Rp 2-4 million/month for starter. However, I agree with you, for expat it probably a poor salary as you get used to those £££ and $$$ :) as well as due to the higher living cost. If you prepared to live in kampung or in a kost rather than an apartment than it probably will be enough.

PNicoll

24-11-08, 13:29

I can tell you that English First language schools pay 8,000,000 RP per month ($720) with some kind of health insurance and a return plane ticket home. Thats all I know about teacher salary here.

Is that all?? I knew a guy who was being offered a salary of 15,000,000 by the british institute as an english teacher.. and that was 3 years ago! At the time he was teaching for EF (english first) and his salary was around 8-10 mil. Surely the salary standard has gone up by now!

Endahk

25-11-08, 21:02

My advice is to look for a national plus school which usually pay 15-20 million plus plus plus... International schools pay alot more but you usually need a teacher qualification to teach there...

Hi Pauleslteacher,

Regarding that 15-20 million salary in a national plus school. Who is it valid for? Is it only valid for a native English speaker teaching English there? I'm an Indonesian, at the moment doing my degree in Education Studies and will later on do a PGCE to get my teaching qualification. Honestly, I didn't have a plan to teach in Indo due to the salary, from what I know teacher's salary are not that high. But 15-20 million sounds good enough for me :)

Endahk

28-11-08, 08:02

Hi Paul,

I'm not sure yet what I'd like to teach in the future, I didn't plan to teach English. I like little children so probably will teach in early years or primary school. If they have Bahasa Indonesia curriculum in England sure I'd be interested in that.

About your company, English Solutions,is it going to be an English School like EF and ILP? If I need an experience after graduation then I'll have to contact you for a job lol.

Endahk

01-12-08, 18:32

Mmmh, I didn't realised that some of the schools are taking advantage of the teachers. Your plan sounds great Paul, will you open a branch in Surabaya as well? Just curious, maybe I can recommend my cousins to go to your school instead of the others ;).

Pinkpanther

05-12-08, 12:52

"Personally...I've recently opened an English services company called English Solutions and will be hiring native and local teachers along with people of other backgrounds in the near future... :)"

Hi Paul,
If you need native english teacher, could my husband apply as he was english teacher at some english course and now he free lance and teach in private.

Pauleslteacher1

05-12-08, 16:51

Thanks Endahk.... We do have a long term plan to open offices in Surabaya, Semarang, Bandung, Medan and other cities...

To the Pink Panther.. Ask your husband to email me his CV and a cover letter to [email protected].. Our website is almost finished and you will be able to get more information about English Solutions from that...I will send you the address later..

Have a nice weekend...

Paul

Bali-que

06-12-08, 05:55

Hi Endahk...

I have been in Indonesia for over 10 years teaching English... I started wrorking for EF in Medan and taught with them for 4 years... I know many teachers that have been taken advantage of and treated badly by many schools that only care about making money.....

So I decided to open an English services company with a progressive thinking Indonesian partner and we are going to have a very successful company that cares about it's teachers (both Western and Indonesian) and students and focuses not so much on the profit but on the result... Also a fun place to work that cares!

Its nice planning. I like if there are many expat who have social sense when they live in Indonesia. Coz like or dont like, indonesia will be their work country and they must hv nice goal for this country although its js in small think..

Surabaya? Great, it would be nice. I m agree Endang coz i stay there.

I m waiting your planning in Surabaya, Paul.

kingwilly

06-12-08, 11:58

Is that all?? .........Surely the salary standard has gone up by now!

dont be usign that surely word

kingwilly

06-12-08, 12:00

International schools pay alot more but you usually need a teacher qualification to teach there...

pesky innit?:rolleyes:

yellowmushroom

13-05-09, 19:45

how about local teacher salary in international school? anyone knows?

thx before

Mas Fred

13-05-09, 20:21

I've just been offered 2 million/month for one day a week but turned it down as there was no visa in there.

DP Nagata

14-05-09, 08:01

Hello Endahk...

Personally...I've recently opened an English services company called English Solutions and will be hiring native and local teachers along with people of other backgrounds in the near future... :)

Cheers!

Paul

Hi Paul.

I have been working in the field of language education (both English and Indonesian) for more than 20 years.
When I was in Ind, my friends and I had a language school for expats. (see PURI LANGUAGE Plus or ALAM Bahasa in Yogyakarta)
Do you still have any plan to hire the native and local teachers?
I'm interested in that.

Regards,

DP Nagata

Mas Fred

14-05-09, 13:18

how about local teacher salary in international school? anyone knows?

thx before

Ben ?????????????

DP Nagata

14-05-09, 13:25

how about local teacher salary in international school? anyone knows?

thx before

much cheaper, I think.

deviray48

14-05-09, 14:01

Just as a matter of interest I looked up TEFL courses and salary for English teachers that could be expected in Indonesia. I found that the usual salary to be expected is approx €700-€800 per month. At todays rates that is 9,888,707rp to 11,302,081rp per month. Maybe that will help.

Ray

mattyboy43

14-05-09, 14:46

From teaching the past 5 years in Nat Plus schools I can tell you that as far as salary goes it varies based on your nationality. Most of the real Nat Plus schools in Jakarta, those belong to the ANPS, have around the same saleries. Indonesians - Not employed as English Teachers but as Indonesian Teachers or as PE, Music, Art etc.. Get between 3 and 5 million a month. Indians, Philippinos, Dutch get between 9 and 14 million a month. Americans, Aussies, Kiwis, Brits and Canadians get 20-30 a month. Some schools offer a little more or a little less but this is the general range. Usually benifits include medical, bonus and sometimes a flights if you were hired from overseas. All schools require at least a bachlors degree but it does not always have to be in education depending on relevant experience and how badly the school needs a teacher at the time

Diego

07-09-09, 09:44

Hi there-

I realize this thread is a little old, but thought I'd try my chances here first instead of posting a new one asking for the same information.

I've been offered a position at a language centre in Bandung for around 10 million per month (net). Reading this thread has got me a little confused as to whether of not that salary is reasonable for an experienced EFL teacher (not a newbie). It looks like the same salary is offered across the board -- regardless of experience -- is that standard?

Thanks much in advance.

-Diego

gffgold

07-09-09, 10:10

Not unusual. In many language mills all teachers, whether experienced or not, will be taking the same number of classes for the same number of hours and therefore earning the proprietor the same amount of money.

They may pay extra for specific experience that enables them to make more money - if they need an experienced IELTS teacher to run more courses, for example - but if their core business is babysitting kids then why should they pay extra when a newbie can fill the gap just as well?

Diego

08-09-09, 08:58

Thanks for that. I guess I really had two questions, and you've answered the first. My second question is whether or not 10 mill is a reasonable salary in Bandung?

kingwilly

08-09-09, 09:12

Thanks for that. I guess I really had two questions, and you've answered the first. My second question is whether or not 10 mill is a reasonable salary in Bandung?

for an ESL or TEFL teacher, I think so.

b_santoso

14-09-09, 08:43

Thanks for that. I guess I really had two questions, and you've answered the first. My second question is whether or not 10 mill is a reasonable salary in Bandung?

Based on the living cost in Bandung that's reasonable enough. But if you can get more that's better.

squid

08-10-09, 13:56

But if you can get more that's better.

:drum:

jo2jakarta

14-10-09, 09:40

Recently a group of parents sent a protest letter to the board and princial of a small international school in South Jakarta.
The reason was, that the principal tried to dismiss class assistants without a legitimate reason. Well, she told them they were too expensive.
Their salary is abt Rp. 4 million. She wanted to replace them with assisrants with a salary of Rp. 1,5 million. The same amount domestic helpers get.
So we (parents) protested because the assistants did a really great job, and what would the quality of the assistants be for Rp.1,5 million? Some of those assistants can speak 3(!) languages. We found out that what the principal was trying to do was illegal because some of the assistants already worked at the school for more than 3 years, so their contracts should be permanent. She also threatened to with hold their salary if they talked to parents.
It was a good thing the assistants were aware of their rights. They would have been unemployed otherwise!

gffgold

14-10-09, 10:40

The reason was, that the principal tried to dismiss class assistants without a legitimate reason. Well, she told them they were too expensive.
Their salary is abt Rp. 4 million. She wanted to replace them with assisrants with a salary of Rp. 1,5 million. The same amount domestic helpers get.

Thoroughly disgusting school management - please name and shame the school.

ibukyu

14-10-09, 10:51

I have friends who've through the same problem. When this expat Principal arrived the person tried to claim that the Teacher Assistant salary is too high. The person (could be the same person) even tried to freeze their salary (no more raise even by inflation). The person somehow tried to tell them that the person can easily get rid of them. That in that school there's nothing such as "permanent" employee (the person who just been few years in Indonesia tried to tell us the Law that we knew by heart)....
The employee also knew their rights (most of them have been working here more then 5 years) and somehow defend their rights. I am so glad that happen.
This person also bragging about the TA get too much, bla, bla, bla....
I knew so many supportive expats but this one is one of its kind... SO be careful and fight for it.
I guess that principal is knew little and so narrow minded person and usually this kind of person is not much "worth" her/himself since she/he suppose to be part of the "Team" and share the good times (I believe she/ will ask for salary raise for her/himself soon and ask for many other facilities) and bad times. But most of time the person only share the bad times (told you to do this and that) but take the good times for her/himself :evil:........ Don't give any room for this kind of person or behavior. Fight for it.

ibukyu

14-10-09, 10:53

I agree shame and name the person (not really the school)..... So she can't get another job around here.....

jo2jakarta

14-10-09, 16:46

I wrote letter to the Jak.Post and the Globe, not sure they'll publish it though. Here it is:

Thank you NIS (Netherlands International School)

Thank you for ignoring parent's letters of concern and treating us like garbage.
I learned that when you fight for your child, you have to learn to take every insult somebody throws at you. It also taught me to not take client service for granted, ever. Even at an international school!
Thank you for often sending my children home with barely readable photocopies for their homework. It showed me that even when you pay a lot of money for a seemingly good international school, your child is not guaranteed a quality education!
Thank you for being so secretive and slippery. Because of that you made us work to get hold of your principal's CV. You do have reason for not wanting parents to know about her background and lack of appropriate credentials!
It also taught me to not trust people who shout from the rooftops that they are so religious and that everything is fabulous!
Thank you for banning me from campus and making me the only person on NIS ' blacklist (ever?) for no legitimate reason. Once again I got the message that even people with good sounding job titles and positions are not above the small mindedness of us mere mortals and can be just as vindictive. You held up a mirror in front of me, showing I had started to become just like you.
Thank you for not responding to my emails about my concerns for my child, but responding to my mail and extending a coffee invitation to a nice cafe in Kemang when I mentioned I'd go to a newspaper or hire a lawyer. You showed me how important it is to listen to people and not be a hypocrite whose only concern is saving their own skins.
Most importantly: Thank you for refusing to help my child when she encountered learning difficulties. Even though it clearly stated in your school guide that you had a comprehensive program in place to offer help!
Thank you for every time I asked for help, you'd smile sweetly, promising that everything would be ok…then dismissing me. Even when I told you again and again that my child fell apart and cried when doing her homework and was clearly in distress.
That whole struggle taught me to be more patient with my children and led me to better educate myself on alternative learning strategies.

jo2jakarta

14-10-09, 16:49

And the name of the principal is: (deleted).

gffgold

14-10-09, 18:58

Oh yeah. She was previously one of the principals at Springfield - a very Christian school with some fairly unChristian attitudes to staff. Dunno what she did before that.

atlantis

14-10-09, 20:12

Sorry, I had to edit your post and remove the name of the principal from your post. Your testimony about the school may be enough to make your point. If people want to know more about it I suggest that they contact you via PM. Thanks.

kingwilly

15-10-09, 10:39

Thank you for being so secretive and slippery. Because of that you made us work to get hold of your principal's CV. You do have reason for not wanting parents to know about her background and lack of appropriate credentials! .

Sorry, you sound like a stalker....

jo2jakarta

15-10-09, 11:57

Yes ,I agree we sound like stalkers, but let me explain. The policy at the school has always been that all backgrounds from teachers, principal and boards are freely available for the parents. But when this principal was hired, no cv or other info was made public to us. So when we encountered some very questionable decisions concerning educational matter, we asked for the principal's cv. They refused to give it to us, and didn't give a legitimate reason. The only question was: why do you need it? If she doesn't have anything to hide, why then so secretive and go against official school policies? I think when it comes to our children, parents have a right to know what kind of people are in charge at the school.

jo2jakarta

15-10-09, 11:58

jo2jakarta

21-10-09, 10:49

I have her cv, plus additional info. She doesn't even have a universit degree. She was solely hired by the NIS schoolboard on her claim that she increased the amount of students at Springfield. One of the members of the selection commitee told me that.

joniscan

13-02-10, 09:40

From my knowledge, EF and Real English, two language schools in Yogyakarta who hire native speakers full time with visa (basic insurance and no other perks such as tickets and housing allowance) pay about 5-6 million per month. With possibility for salary increases early on. Think it depends on the city and cost of living.

Death by Depok

19-02-10, 19:47

I get 7 mil. as a 1st year teacher at E.F.
I think it is slightly more if you are a degree holder, which sadly I'm not.

kverz

20-02-10, 10:42

I agree shame and name the person (not really the school)..... So she can't get another job around here.....

Hey let's not be cruel...we need to understand that principal's decision is not only her decision... The school have directors, accountants ect ect deciding for everything and at times Principal's job is very tough because they are in between parents, teachers and staffs, school owner and school directors. I think it is very hard to be in that job considering all the issues that you have to deal with. In my years of teaching here in Indonesia, the only difficulty i have is dealing with school politics...

kverz

23-02-10, 12:16

7 to 10 mil for non-native with relevant degree and native speakers with no relevant degree in national plus school,

5 mil to 8 mil native speakers in a language school with teaching certificates,

17 to 25 mil for native speakers with relevant degree for national plus schools or small international schools.

I know a friend she is Indonesian who studied in Canada and get 15 mil pay in an international school.

It is now difficult to get a job in a National plus or International Schools without relevant degree in Education since it is now one of the requirements for processing the working visa...

Good luck!

Elithium

16-03-10, 16:42

If you are good at math as well as english, you can get quite a bit more. The key is finding a high demand subject that most of the expats here aren't able to do. For example, I am very good at GMAT/GRE/SAT and I get well more than twice what the other english teachers at my school get paid.

kingwilly

17-03-10, 11:29

Hey let's not be cruel...we need to understand that principal's decision is not only her decision... The school have directors, accountants ect ect deciding for everything and at times Principal's job is very tough because they are in between parents, teachers and staffs, school owner and school directors. I think it is very hard to be in that job considering all the issues that you have to deal with. In my years of teaching here in Indonesia, the only difficulty i have is dealing with school politics...

indeed. well said.

Hombre de Maiz

17-03-10, 11:45

JagungTinggi

17-03-10, 12:02

I'd give you some positive rep if I believed in the forums reputations system. I am gratified that you, unlike many native speakers and teachers--can distiguish between principal and principle. Bravo.

I'd give you some rep too, save for .....
forums - forum's
and reputations, reputation
not to mention distiguish - distinguish
Bravo !

kingwilly

17-03-10, 12:08

hi blackadder.

ohmdafyd

17-03-10, 12:15

hi blackadder.

It's really obvious after a while, right Billy ... especially the not so subtle dig in another thread at our compadre in Ubud... ho hum :sleep:

Hombre de Maiz

17-03-10, 12:16

You'll have to forgive me for the crappy keyboard at the warnet. My grammar, spelling and diction, I believe, is on full display on my posts over the last year or so here on the forum, whereas JaggungTinggi...well...he's the guy who stalks and get banned and re-banned and re-re-banned, and so on...

Pimpin

17-03-10, 13:45

Kverz isn't native.

kverz

18-03-10, 08:35

Kverz isn't native.

Yes Pimpin I am not a native speaker...and I am not an English teacher as well...But hey, I also have a UK passport...;)

jeanfi12

01-12-12, 03:19

john madden

01-12-12, 05:49

Rupiah per month.

Tudor

01-12-12, 08:05

Is that per year or per month?

Come on, are you serious? Do you honestly think a native speaker is going to move to Indonesia to earn as little as $500 - 2500 per year?!