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According to Ramli Mansur, West Aceh district head;
"It’s also stated in the Koran that if a woman imitates a man [by wearing pants], then she will spend 500 years in solitude before she ever gets to heaven."
(found on Jakarta Globe website here... http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/west-aceh-district-chief-says-shariah-law-needed-or-there-will-be-hell-to-pay/391699 )
So, I guess most women in Jakarta are doomed to an afterlife of being alone?
According to Ramli Mansur, West Aceh district head;
"It’s also stated in the Koran that if a woman imitates a man [by wearing pants], then she will spend 500 years in solitude before she ever gets to heaven."
(found on Jakarta Globe website here... http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/west-aceh-district-chief-says-shariah-law-needed-or-there-will-be-hell-to-pay/391699 )
Does that mean they have to shut up for the duration ????? Well then lets go shopping at the Wrangler's store Mrs Cik and the Ciklette......
Seriously..... yet another ignorant d1ckhead's personal interpretation to suit his own ends ..... wish I subscribed to a religion so freely twisted and regurgitated
So, I guess most women in Jakarta are doomed to an afterlife of being alone?
Does that mean they have to shut up for the duration ????? Well then... lets go shopping at the Wrangler's store Mrs Cik and the Ciklette......
Seriously..... yet another ignorant d1ckhead's personal interpretation to suit his own ends ..... wish I subscribed to a religion so freely twisted and regurgitated
Carrot Cake
20-08-10, 09:01
if blackberry is allowed there. i dont think it would be a problem.
Hahaha cc. Good one. I guess you could spend the 500yrs texting all your other evil friends who will be with you.
Actually, it might be an interseting place to visit. All those evil ladies...alone for 500yrs.
Gotta read the whole article, as he says many other amusing things.
stt_cibubur
20-08-10, 09:54
How about women who wearing less clothes? (eg. Bikini) how many years in solitude??
How about women who wearing less clothes? (eg. Bikini) how many years in solitude??
There was no specific info on that. I think the point is, if you show ANY curves, you are doomed...
waarmstrong
20-08-10, 11:27
So if you are really really fat or absolutely anorexic pencil thin i.e. no curves, you can wear what ever you like?
According to Ramli, if curves are shown, then the woman deserves to be raped. I guess if they have no curves, they should be safe from animals like Ramli?
How about women who wearing less clothes? (eg. Bikini) how many years in solitude??
ahhh unfortunately NOT....... just ask any female who has worn a bikini on Kuta Beach .... the only thing that could drag Javanese men away would be free cigarettes.... but only just
If the measure of what a woman is allowed to wear is its effect on the male p*n*s, then ugly old hags should be allowed to run around nekid.
If the measure of what a woman is allowed to wear is its effect on the male p*n*s, then ugly old hags should be allowed to run around nekid.... there goes me lunch !!!
Cryptkeeper
20-08-10, 13:13
If the measure of what a woman is allowed to wear is its effect on the male p*n*s, then ugly old hags should be allowed to run around nekid.
The beach (or any other places) will be deserted.
The esteemed bapak went on to say that women who show curves are asking to be raped because it is a well-known fact that men cannot control their urges. The man is a cretin, but perhaps not quite such a cretin as all those Acehnese who voted for this nonsense.
The esteemed bapak went on to say that women who show curves are asking to be raped because it is a well-known fact that men cannot control their urges. The man is a cretin, but perhaps not quite such a cretin as all those Acehnese who voted for this nonsense.
Which is why we need to be afraid.. very afraid.... because other regimes now consider themselves to be outmuslimed by the Aceh hypocrites and either ape them or try to go one better.......
He was asked that if men could not control themselves shouldn't that be the mans problem. His response was " the bylaw is about blind faith, so lets not bring reason into it" So basically he is saying it doesn't matter whether it makes sense or not. It is his interpretation of the Islamic bylaws and that is what he is going to enforce.
I am not sure how he became a leader of a party with these idiotic view points. If you want to enforce Islamic law and that is what the people want fine but don't make stupid statements like "if a woman wears provacative clothing they are asking to get raped"
According to Ramli Mansur, West Aceh district head;
"It’s also stated in the Koran that if a woman imitates a man [by wearing pants], then she will spend 500 years in solitude before she ever gets to heaven."
(found on Jakarta Globe website here... http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/west-aceh-district-chief-says-shariah-law-needed-or-there-will-be-hell-to-pay/391699 )
So, I guess most women in Jakarta are doomed to an afterlife of being alone?
Of course not. However if you believe it, then yes.
I always found it interesting how many religions put an arbitrary time scale on punishment while on the same breath speak of infinity. Therefore 500 years as opposed to forever would not even be a coffee break, a mere pause of "huh?" and its over, so put on those pants ladies!!
Today's religions all purely political in today's world, its all about influence and power and not as it was thousands of years hence. Just as any political philosophy has many political parties so too do religions. There would never be only one political party or system of government as they are beliefs based on intangibles. Therefore there are many political philosophies such as democracy, or communism to name two.
So too are religions, beliefs based on intangibles and as such vary widely in as much as politics and their political parties. This should not be any surprise as they are all one and the same.
Politics and religions are personal beliefs, and as such people should be allowed to form and have their own views without caving pressure from others. In fact some religions formed and developed from the pressure from society inflicted on them and later resisted and fought with others who then felt their pressure to conform. Ahhh its a wheel that turns endlessly.
That's my two sense ;)
stt_cibubur
20-08-10, 17:05
The esteemed bapak went on to say that women who show curves are asking to be raped because it is a well-known fact that men cannot control their urges..
is that the reason a man can have 5 mistresses and standby 24 hours service to fulfilled their urges?? is the urges really that big or is just dirty oldf**t?
The esteemed bapak went on to say that women who show curves are asking to be raped because it is a well-known fact that men cannot control their urges. The man is a cretin, but perhaps not quite such a cretin as all those Acehnese who voted for this nonsense.
My comment on that is obviously Islam fails miserably as Muslim men are completely unaffected by faith and continue to have impure thoughts towards women. By extension the esteemed bapak who is making this pronouncement also condones theft if someone has a nice car, clothes, watch or jewellery. Its absurd and unrealistic unless one winds the clock back 1500 years, neuralise everyone's memory of the modern world.
Perhaps one could wall up an area where all the like minded people can live in "harmony". Of course the wall is required to make sure they stay there.
My two sense :D
I'll see your two "sense" ...
... and raise you two.
Unfortunately, there is an enormous difference between political and religious affiliations.
Politics are decided on when one has the means to do so oneself. And it isn't a disaster if you disagree with your parents. Ballots (where allowed) are generally secret. So you can pocket the political bribe and still vote whichever way you so desire.
Religions, OTOH, are indoctrinated when one isn't in a position to object and are at an age when you believe your parents are still omniscient. Changing ones' opinion in later life also has familial and social consequences!!!
I'll see your two "sense" ...
... and raise you two.
Unfortunately, there is an enormous difference between political and religious affiliations.
Politics are decided on when one has the means to do so oneself. And it isn't a disaster if you disagree with your parents. Ballots (where allowed) are generally secret. So you can pocket the political bribe and still vote whichever way you so desire.
Religions, OTOH, are indoctrinated when one isn't in a position to object and are at an age when you believe your parents are still omniscient. Changing ones' opinion in later life also has familial and social consequences!!!
I'll see your two sense and raise another two! :lol:
I still stand on my statement. The religions of today in their day 1500 years ago were not only the belief of a divinity (or divinities) BUT was also the system of government - they were one and the same. Islamic republic? :D
Unfortunately the world has changed and life today is full of dynamic change whereas 1500 years ago life was for each generation basically the same as the previous and previous before it. Religions today are DOS 1.0 on today's computers
Further thoughts:
Politics are ALSO indoctrinated which is clearly illustrated throughout history and up to today where one isn't in a position to disagree lest disaster befalls them. North Korea, Nazi Germany, Stalinist USSR and the Soviet Eastern Block countries, Maoist China (Cultural Revolution) and so on . . .
In fact these political regimes are pseudo-religious whereas the head of state is revered as God. To this day there are shrines to Mao in China where people pray to Mao for guidance. Religions and Politics use the same format of indoctrinating the masses, icons, slogans, chants, propaganda all designed to further control the the people's thinking.
As I stated earlier we live in a world of dynamic change. For example, what was a common place social attitude a short 60 years ago is unthinkable of today . . . I speak of slapping women when they get out of line.
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The old religions of 1500 years PLUS were meant to be followed by the society of the the time and attempting to implement them today entails interpretations, alterations, the picking and choosing what is adhered to and what is not - religion politicians and lawyers if you will. if this is acceptable then the divinity of the original religion is long gone. See how that works?
:D
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